India 'succumbs' to Chinese pressure on Arunachal at WB meet

[Communist]

India 'succumbs' to Chinese pressure on Arunachal at WB meet

Bharti Jain, ET Bureau, Mar 6, 2010, 04.25am IST

NEW DELHI: A World Bank document says external affairs minister SM Krishna has stated that "India will not pose any Arunachal Pradesh-specific project" to the Bank, and that the Chinese executive director at the Bank is pressing for the operationalisation of this statement.

Verbally, India's executive director, Pulok Chatterjee, has conveyed to the Bank that the government of India would not pose any Arunachal Pradesh-specific project to the Bank for financing.

"I also took the liberty to say that the names of the individual states would not be mentioned anywhere in the project document, and that the government of India would not be posing any Arunachal Pradesh-specific projects to the World Bank," Mr Chatterjee wrote in a communication to finance secretary Ashok Chawla dated February 12.

This amounts to conceding China’s persistent claims of Arunachal Pradesh being a "disputed territory" and runs contrary to the stated opinion that the state is "an integral part of India".

It may be recalled that it was only eight months ago that the Indian government had sharply attacked Beijing for criticising Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh and his reference to the state as "our land of the rising sun". During the verbal skirmishes with Beijing at the juncture, India had said China has no business to interfere in the affairs of a territory that is an integral part of India.

The shift appears all the more strange as it was only recently that India refused an ADB loan for an Arunachal project after China raised "disputed territory" objections. India had then said "all projects in sensitive areas will be funded by our own resources".

What is more surprising is that the oblique acceptance of the Beijing line on Arunachal at the World Bank meeting on February 12, attended by Mr Chatterjee, ED-China Shaolin Yang, and World Bank general counsel (legal) and vice-president, South Asia division, came about without the Union Cabinet’s consent.

At the meeting, China's ED insisted on the operationalisation of Mr Krishna’s statement, even as the World Bank general counsel and vice-president clarified that the Bank’s disclaimer clause, invoked whenever a national or state-level project is to be implemented in an area over which two member countries are in dispute, would not be triggered for the projects being presently funded by World Bank.

Mr Chatterjee, on his own, offered not to name individual states in the project document or seek World Bank assistance for projects to be implemented in Arunachal.

In his letter to Mr Chawla soon after the meeting, Mr Chatterjee referred to the Chinese objections to national projects such as SSA and vocational training and shared some of the points he had made during the deliberations.

He revealed that these were national projects under implementation for many years and that the World Bank assistance was by way of budgetary support. "Both these projects received World Bank assistance earlier without the disclaimer clause being triggered and without any objection from China... the present assistance being considered was more like additional financing of the earlier projects," he argued.

Stating that the Indian government was in any case meeting the bulk of the costs of these programmes from its own resources, with the World Bank and DFID contributing only a small percentage of the costs, Mr Chatterjee, however, said India was willing to respect the World Bank’s policy on disclaimer clause.

"We value China’s support and a difference of opinion on this would cause our government much dismay," he underlined. Mr Chatterjee concluded by saying that the names of individual states "would not be mentioned anywhere in the project document and that the government of India would not be posing any Arunachal Pradesh-specific projects to the World Bank".

When the general counsel said the Bank was willing to consider incorporating the disclaimer clause as a general clause in all agreements for all projects for all countries in the future, which the Chinese ED backed, Mr Chatterjee said though he would support this, "but since the matter may take some time to finalise, this should not be made a condition for the projects presently under consideration".

This was reluctantly agreed to by China’s ED, who, however, insisted on putting it on record. Finally, an agreement was reached that VP-South Asia would issue a "confidential" record of discussions listing the points raised by the Chinese ED and Mr Chatterjee.

This record will be retained only by World Bank’s South Asia division office, the general counsel’s office, the Chinese ED’s office and Mr Chatterjee’s office.

India 'succumbs' to Chinese pressure on Arunachal at WB meet - India - The Times of India

 

[chinapakistan]

Well said, minister SM Krishna And well done china

 

[navtrek]

It can be seen as succumbing to pressure but it can also be seen as a way of reducing tensions.

As long as development works go on we don't have to care abt loans

 

[navtrek]

Bridges across Dibang river cabinet gives a go ahead

New Delhi : The Cabinet Committee on Infrastructure today gave administrative approval to undertake the project for construction of bridges across Dibang river system and connecting road between Bomjur-Meka on NH-52, covering a length of 18.95 km.

It also approved construction of bridge across river Lohit at Alubari Ghat and connecting road between Chowkham-Digaru covering a length of 12 km in Arunachal Pradesh at an estimated cost of Rs 725.67 crore under the BOT (Annuity) basis.

The CCI also approved award of the project on Design, Build, Finance, Operate and Transfer (DBFOT) basis following the annuity model approved by the Cabinet for four roads of Arunachal Pradesh Package of Roads and Highways under SARDP-NE.

There would be a total concession period of 17 years and twenty-five semi-annual annuity payments on the basis of accepted bid to the Concessionaire during twelve-and-a-half years after successful completion of the road.

Expenditure on the project in question would be incurred out of the budget allocations for SARDP-NE.

The project road would provide all-weather connectivity between Bomjur and Meka section of NH-52 of Arunachal Pradesh. The road would also greatly facilitate the security/defence agencies to combat anti-national activities and threat in the border areas.

Bridges across Dibang river cabinet gives a go ahead :: Samay Live

 

[navtrek]

Lower Siang project work planned for 2011
16 February 2010

Jaiprakash Power Ventures Limited (JPVL), a subsidiary of Jaypee Group, is expected to start work on the 2700MW Lower Siang project in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh in 2011, as soon as environmental clearance is given for the scheme.

According to reports from Business Standard, JPVL has received techno economic clearance for the project, with environmental clearance expected by the end of this year. Work will then start early next year, with the project developed in two stages as 1500MW and 1200MW. Business Standard reported that the first stage would be commissioned by 2017, with the second in 2020-21.

International Water Power and Dam Construction

 

[Creder]

nevermind this post, i said some jibberish about china and india coming together and how it would be good for world peace obviously you all would rather fight on internet

 

[chinapakistan]

Lower Siang project work planned for 2011
16 February 2010

Jaiprakash Power Ventures Limited (JPVL), a subsidiary of Jaypee Group, is expected to start work on the 2700MW Lower Siang project in the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh in 2011, as soon as environmental clearance is given for the scheme.

According to reports from Business Standard, JPVL has received techno economic clearance for the project, with environmental clearance expected by the end of this year. Work will then start early next year, with the project developed in two stages as 1500MW and 1200MW. Business Standard reported that the first stage would be commissioned by 2017, with the second in 2020-21.

International Water Power and Dam Construction

I think you should post these in 2017, 2020-21, indian has so many plan and most plan is still just a plan after planning. Talking a plan is meaningless.

 

[navtrek]

India moves 46000 troops along China border
Agencies
New Delhi, Feb 15: Asserting that India would not let anyone take away an inch of its territory, Defence minister A K Antony Monday said 2 army divisions will be deployed in Arunachal Pradesh on Chinese border to strengthen army’s presence there.

Speaking here after inaugurating the sixth edition of the biennial Defexpo 2010 here, Antony said India doesn’t want an inch of any neighbour’s territory, but added that it however will also not concede an inch of its own territory.

On the prevailing security scenario, the minister said India is seen as a "mature and responsible" power and has a stabilising influence at a "politico-security" level in the region, but was ready to meet any challenge to its territorial integrity and sovereignty.

Antony further informed that the two mountain divisions of the Army to be raised in the Northeast would be based in Arunachal Pradesh, close to the border with China.

A division usually consists 15,000 combat troops and 8,000 support elements.He, however, cautioned that the decision should not be seen as a move against any country.

Antony was referring to China, which claims parts of Arunachal Pradesh as its territory and has also been breaching the Line of Actual Control in Jammu and Kashmir and Sikkim over the past few months.

The Defence Minister said the Army divisions were being moved to Arunachal Pradesh as a “deterrent” measure.

The minister also sought to make it clear that the move to modernize Indian armed forces was not against any particular country, including China.

He further said that the country’s defence expenditure will increase "in proportion" with its economic growth rate, which is expected to be around eight to 10 percent for the next two decades.

"India's defence expenditure is 2.5 percent of its GDP and the economy is expected to grow at eight to 10 percent for the next two decades. The expenditure on defence in absolute terms is also bound to increase in equal proportion," Antony stated.

Rising Kashmir, Daily Newspaper, Srinagar Jammu and Kashmir - Dragon Fever

 

[navtrek]

Arunachal students say no to Chinese goods
Bijay Sankar Bora
Tribune News Service

Guwahati, February 21
In an ingenious way to protest much reported ‘China’s claim’ over the frontier state of Arunachal Pradesh, the All-Arunachal Pradesh Students Union (AAPSU) has launched a statewide campaign for boycott of Chinese goods that have flooded the market in entire region, thanks to numerous clandestine trade routes.

Even restaurants in Arunachal Pradesh twin capital cities of Itanagar and Naharlagun have been asked to drop all Chinese delicacies from menu or face stern actions from the students’ body. “Though we are now focusing the campaign against Chinese goods and food items in Itanagar and Naharlagun, the same is being spread to all over the state to register our protest against China’s repeated claim over our state that is very much part of Indian territory,” AAPSU president Takum Tatung told The Tribune over phone from Itanagar.

To drive home that they meant business, AAPSU members earlier this month made a bonfire of Chinese goods in a market complex in Itanagar besides burning effigy of Chinese premier Hu Jintao. They threw a range of Chinese products from mobile handsets, readymade garments to toys to the fire. The AAPSU move against Chinese goods and food has been backed by the Arunachal Chamber of Commerce and Industries.

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Main News

 

[Yusuf]

I would see it as a pretty good move by India. Might as well get the loan early for all other projects than get stuck in the diplomatic tussle with China on getting the loan released. No sense in getting a Rs 100 loan blocked which has Rs 5 for Arunachal. Practical work. Good job India. Funds can be diverted anytime.

 

[navtrek]

The point of me posting the above articles is that

1.The government has decided to fund its projects by itself (Which is very good news)
2. Development work has started.
3.Defense of the state has been taken in to consideration.
4.Public opinion can be judged by anyone who reads the article

With all this. Is India really succumbing to pressure yes & no

Yes coz from now on no more loans for devp work for AP because of Chinese opposition.

No coz the work is still going on instead with govt funds

 

[navtrek]

I think you should post these in 2017, 2020-21, indian has so many plan and most plan is still just a plan after planning. Talking a plan is meaningless.

The article says the plants will be fully functional by 2017 e.t.c
my point was to say that development work is ON even without the loan

 

[chinapakistan]

The article says the plants will be fully functional by 2017 e.t.c
my point was to say that development work is ON even without the loan

?We dont care the plan is ON or not, we just care world bank doesent support it.

 

[ambidex]

The point is that we are not going to test International community on this issue if they are friend of India or not. The circumstances are in favour of china on different dimensions and china can use the same influence to make our relationship bitter with others and world bank.
Furthermore we are now is position to claim that it is only India who is taking initiative to ease tension.
We are sitting in AP and have now boosted our defences. The intrusions are reduced manifolds so what else we want?

Thanks.

 

[Justin Joseph]

India 'succumbs' to Chinese pressure on Arunachal at WB meet

Bharti Jain, ET Bureau, Mar 6, 2010, 04.25am IST

NEW DELHI: A World Bank document says external affairs minister SM Krishna has stated that "India will not pose any Arunachal Pradesh-specific project" to the Bank, and that the Chinese executive director at the Bank is pressing for the operationalisation of this statement.

Verbally, India's executive director, Pulok Chatterjee, has conveyed to the Bank that the government of India would not pose any Arunachal Pradesh-specific project to the Bank for financing.

"I also took the liberty to say that the names of the individual states would not be mentioned anywhere in the project document, and that the government of India would not be posing any Arunachal Pradesh-specific projects to the World Bank," Mr Chatterjee wrote in a communication to finance secretary Ashok Chawla dated February 12.

This amounts to conceding China’s persistent claims of Arunachal Pradesh being a "disputed territory" and runs contrary to the stated opinion that the state is "an integral part of India".

It may be recalled that it was only eight months ago that the Indian government had sharply attacked Beijing for criticising Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh and his reference to the state as "our land of the rising sun". During the verbal skirmishes with Beijing at the juncture, India had said China has no business to interfere in the affairs of a territory that is an integral part of India.

The shift appears all the more strange as it was only recently that India refused an ADB loan for an Arunachal project after China raised "disputed territory" objections. India had then said "all projects in sensitive areas will be funded by our own resources".

What is more surprising is that the oblique acceptance of the Beijing line on Arunachal at the World Bank meeting on February 12, attended by Mr Chatterjee, ED-China Shaolin Yang, and World Bank general counsel (legal) and vice-president, South Asia division, came about without the Union Cabinet’s consent.

At the meeting, China's ED insisted on the operationalisation of Mr Krishna’s statement, even as the World Bank general counsel and vice-president clarified that the Bank’s disclaimer clause, invoked whenever a national or state-level project is to be implemented in an area over which two member countries are in dispute, would not be triggered for the projects being presently funded by World Bank.

Mr Chatterjee, on his own, offered not to name individual states in the project document or seek World Bank assistance for projects to be implemented in Arunachal.

In his letter to Mr Chawla soon after the meeting, Mr Chatterjee referred to the Chinese objections to national projects such as SSA and vocational training and shared some of the points he had made during the deliberations.

He revealed that these were national projects under implementation for many years and that the World Bank assistance was by way of budgetary support. "Both these projects received World Bank assistance earlier without the disclaimer clause being triggered and without any objection from China... the present assistance being considered was more like additional financing of the earlier projects," he argued.

Stating that the Indian government was in any case meeting the bulk of the costs of these programmes from its own resources, with the World Bank and DFID contributing only a small percentage of the costs, Mr Chatterjee, however, said India was willing to respect the World Bank’s policy on disclaimer clause.

"We value China’s support and a difference of opinion on this would cause our government much dismay," he underlined. Mr Chatterjee concluded by saying that the names of individual states "would not be mentioned anywhere in the project document and that the government of India would not be posing any Arunachal Pradesh-specific projects to the World Bank".

When the general counsel said the Bank was willing to consider incorporating the disclaimer clause as a general clause in all agreements for all projects for all countries in the future, which the Chinese ED backed, Mr Chatterjee said though he would support this, "but since the matter may take some time to finalise, this should not be made a condition for the projects presently under consideration".

This was reluctantly agreed to by China’s ED, who, however, insisted on putting it on record. Finally, an agreement was reached that VP-South Asia would issue a "confidential" record of discussions listing the points raised by the Chinese ED and Mr Chatterjee.

This record will be retained only by World Bank’s South Asia division office, the general counsel’s office, the Chinese ED’s office and Mr Chatterjee’s office.

India 'succumbs' to Chinese pressure on Arunachal at WB meet - India - The Times of India

So above proves that India is caring for neighbors till the time we both clear misconception, it shows India's large heart and peaceful nature and commitment for good relations.