India successfully tests Nirbhay cruise missile

[Arya Desa]

Why are people comparing the lackluster babur to our Nirbhay?

 

[RKO]

oh..God!!! pissing contest!!!!

 

[Bratva]

Why are people comparing the lackluster babur to our Nirbhay?

and what's lackluster in babur ?

 

[DingDong]

Similarly Brahmos is a licenced production of Yakhont? And looking at similarities between air intake and wing opening system of Nirbhay and Klub class. Nirbay too can be said a modified Klub class?

Brahmos is a joint production of Russia and India, we never hid that fact. WHy would we produce Brahmos when we could simply get TOT for Yakhont?

Doesn't matter how we got Nirbhaya working, only thing that matters is "India now possesses a long range cruise missile".

Pakistan doesn't have any aerospace industry, hence most probably it is all "paint job".

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Babur is nothing more than license produciton of yj-62 missile of the chinese. Have a look.

Slight difference to increase range, but the critical components are probably purchased off the shelf from China right now.
However with the lack of transperancy is speculation, but the Chinese beleive this to be true. And so do it.

the launch mechanism .. The design and the intake and even the launcher tells a different tale.. But hey I'm quoting a dim indian troll you can't digest facts..

 

[kaykay]

Hey you butthurts, Just digest it now. LOLs

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

Or, you just dont have it.

Why you indians..hindus...act with so much inferiority-complex?

First Pakistan didn't have "nuclear program" and it was all "hoax" since we didn't have the "capacity" to go nuclear (Your top political/technical officials)....and then we busted you into an insulting existence by successfully conducting multiple nuclear explosions.

Then Pakistan didn't have capability to produce missiles and we could only got it from NK...but again, we literally p!ssed on indian/hindus by testing and deploying solid-fueled missiles like Shaheen-IIs, and coming up with tactical quasi-ballistic weapon systems like Nasr.

Now, do you seriously believe that we don't have capacity to deploy babur at sea?

Take a hint from the picture

If you are a technical person, you'd know what I'm trying to hint.

Pakistan has full capability to deploy Babur at sea...

It's in developmental phase for the next 4-6 years. The base model will come with a terminal seeker, loitering capability, and a longer range, etc.

Exactly.

Moreover, loitering capability and a bit longer range is peanuts compared to technological advancement of TERCOM/DMAC deployment in our cruise-missiles.

Pakistan can increase Babur's range at will...but you'll have to work super hard to have TERCOM deployed in Nirbhay.

Yeah, shipyards and other wartime infrastructure are in Mumbai, etc. which is in India too. Which an increased ranged Babur can hit and cheaply compared to Ballistic missiles. You act like there's no advantage at all in increasing it's range.

Its not about "benefit" alone. Its always about "cost-and-benefit" ...Opportunity cost of increasing range of babur without mastering other technologies first was not rational for Pakistan.

Also, Babur can hit mumbai from border areas near Hyderabad, Sindh. It has range of 700km+

Hey you butthurts, Just digest it now. LOLs

Digest what? That you got an ancient technology...something we already tested a full DECADE ago.

poor bhartis. Feel pity on them.

 

[kaykay]

^^ LOLs I see! That's why you are yet to test a long range cruise missile which you want since mushraff era.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Pakistan can increase Babur's range at will...but you'll have to work super hard to have TERCOM deployed in Nirbhay.

Then do it, it's been 10 years.

Why you indians..hindus...act with so much inferiority-complex?

Inferior complex to who? Pakistan?

We'll have a complex to Pakistan when you guys do 1/3 of this.

Please at the very least have your pathetic industry produce a bike to replace those ancient Japanese ones.

 

[karan21]

Why you indians..hindus...act with so much inferiority-complex?

1 .I don't understand when targeting India why do you guys only bash Hindus. Dude come on?? I am a Sikh I wanna be bashed too. India is not all Hindu. We are one for all and all for one.
2. No in India has inferiority complex to Pakistan, but when people in Pakistan heard that India has reached the moon and Mars certainly many in Pakistan felt inferior.

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

1 .I don't understand when targeting India why do you guys only bash Hindus. Dude come on?? I am a Sikh I wanna be bashed too. India is not all Hindu. We are one for all and all for one.

I feel bad bashing sikhs. Hindus atleast have their land now (after centuries and centuries of humiliation, Islamic slavery, and bowing down to superior Islamic peoples)...but what do Sikhs have? Nothing. Even sikhs' holiest land(s) is controlled by us. Majority of Punjab is controlled by us. The remaining punjab in india was divided and sikh holiest place in india was bombed..and then sikhs murdered left and right like no other. Go ask your dad about 1984.

So bashing sikhs makes me feel bad.

2. No in India has inferiority complex to Pakistan, but when people in Pakistan heard that India has reached the moon and Mars certainly many in Pakistan felt inferior.

nobody gave any sh!t.

Definitely, we didn't say 'oh india might have used china's rocket to reach moon'...or 'oh india's mar mission was russian-made but just paint in india'....if we had said those things, then most definitely you could point finger and say that we were suffering from inferiority complex...but we are not.

but when it comes to india...indians even cry on smallest of things! "Babur is copy of chinese missile" is the line of indians on this thread Tells you alot feeling of inferiority indians have.

But i can understand...centuries and centuries of humiliation, defeat, and conquering by superior Islamic peoples can lead to such state.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

1 .I don't understand when targeting India why do you guys only bash Hindus. Dude come on?? I am a Sikh I wanna be bashed too. India is not all Hindu. We are one for all and all for one.
2. No in India has inferiority complex to Pakistan, but when people in Pakistan heard that India has reached the moon and Mars certainly many in Pakistan felt inferior.

And Im a Christian. We all know who has the inferior complex.

but when it comes to india...indians even cry on smallest of things! "Babur is copy of chinese missile" is the line of indians on this thread Tells you alot feeling of inferiority indians have.

And what? Zarvan the whole time was saying it was a tomahawk copy. It's a defence forum. You have Iranians saying Turkish, Arab stuff is a copy and vis a versa. Chinese dissing Japanese, etc. You make a big deal out of nothing.

 

[kṣamā]

Well many foreign posters here bashing India saying what took this long to have a sub sonic cruise missile. Well for starters we DEVELOPED it. We where not blessed with working copies of the best CM to inspire our design and tech. Plus the engine on ours is a TURBOFAN and not TURBOJET. That too is in house developed. The engine could not have been Russian as it is denied under MTCR. Few learned posters have pointed out the development model of this engine. But that was a development low by-pass engine and this is it's high by-pass model.

The above dose not take away from any CM from any nation. Others may have the product first but we also have the knowledge-base to build it. Sure it's iterations will have bells and whistles but this is no joke either.

To the poster with arguments of increasing range easily, no buddy it cannot be done "easily". If re-designing qualities as easy then it might be. It's not balistic that reducing of throw weight will increase throw range.

 

[karan21]

Nothing. Even sikhs' holiest land(s) is controlled by us. Majority of Punjab is controlled by us. The remaining punjab in india was divided and sikh holiest place in india was bombed..and then sikhs murde

I feel bad bashing sikhs. Hindus atleast have their land now (after centuries and centuries of humiliation, Islamic slavery, and bowing down to superior Islamic peoples)...but what do Sikhs have? Nothing. Even sikhs' holiest land(s) is controlled by us. Majority of Punjab is controlled by us. The remaining punjab in india was divided and sikh holiest place in india was bombed..and then sikhs murdered left and right like no other. Go ask your dad about 1984.

So bashing sikhs makes me feel bad.





nobody gave any sh!t.

Definitely, we didn't say 'oh india might have used china's rocket to reach moon'...or 'oh india's mar mission was russian-made but just paint in india'....if we had said those things, then most definitely you could point finger and say that we were suffering from inferiority complex...but we are not.

but when it comes to india...indians even cry on smallest of things! "Babur is copy of chinese missile" is the line of indians on this thread Tells you alot feeling of inferiority indians have.

But i can understand...centuries and centuries of humiliation, defeat, and conquering by superior Islamic peoples can lead to such state.

Lol Whatever man no matter how hard we try, you will never understand the true spirit of India. You are a Pakistani. Its really not your fault. I can understand.

 

[Lil Mathew]

So do you have any proof or a report which says it was tested with TERCOM and DSMAC?

And btw do you even know What Tercom and DSMAC is used for? And Does Brahmos goes in to Terrain Hugging mode? If yes than there is a logical explanation it requires TERCOM and DSMAC, If not then why are you wasting tercom in Brahmos when it didnt even go in to terrain huggin ?

If Yes then you would not have posted this gibberish

If not, then I advise you to read some material and difference b/w Sub-sonic and Super-Sonic cruise missiles and Why super sonic cruise missiles don;t need terrain hugging and Why Sub sonic needs terrain hugging and to achieve terrain hugging which navigation is used for it.

Ramjet engine( continuous power)propultion means terrain huging is possible.. Also you can check brahmos site it clearly states that army version block 2 has terrain hugging capability.. Can fly at an altitude of 5 meter.. But as a 3 mach supersonic missile low altitude makes so much drag.. Also being a supersonic missile stealth feature not needed as of now.. So it can be now used at high altitude..