India successfully tests Nirbhay cruise missile

[shaheenmissile]

5 modules similar to babur

It's nirbhay

yes but has similar modular design as Babur. Although babur has one extra module due to more electronics.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Looks pathetic compared to Babur.

Babur is way more advance missile with TERCOM capability. Which means even U.S can't block the navigation of the weapon system.

Your Baburs been active since how long? Why havent you even increased its range or serviceability to other branches? While this is the second launch of Nirbhay.

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

Your Baburs been active since how long? Why havent you even increased its range or serviceability to other branches. While this is the second launch of Nirbhay.

Exactly. Babur, as of now, is a much superior weapon system with much more reliability and already trial/tested under different parameters.

So stop your fellow bhartis who are jumping "oh nirbhay is superior to babur" ...LMFAO!!!!!!

Atleast, have nirbhay complete all the tests before saying anything...

Also, we did increase the range very early on. From 500 to 700km..now we have india's capital under our range.

Why do we need to increase range further? We focused on other, more technologically advanced aspects of babur...such as pin point accuracy, validation of TERCOM/DMAC, and integration of Beidou navigation system with Babur and so on...

Babur can hit our enemy's capital and all of indian military's deployments on Western front (Pakistani front)....

Why should we have focused on keep increasing the range then? lol...

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Exactly. Babur, as of now, is a much superior weapon system with much more reliability and already trial/tested under different parameters.

So stop your fellow bhartis who are jumping "oh nirbhay is superior to babur" ...LMFAO!!!!!!

Atleast, have nirbhay complete all the tests before saying anything...

Also, we did increase the range very early on. From 500 to 700km..now we have india's capital under our range.

Why do we need to increase range further? We focused on other, more technologically advanced aspects of babur...such as pin point accuracy, validation of TERCOM/DMAC, and integration of Beidou navigation system with Babur and so on...

Babur can hit our enemy's capital and all of indian military's deployments on Western front (Pakistani front)....

Why should we have focused on keep increasing the range then? lol...

I dont know, so you can actually hit other relevant parts of India, duh. And making it capable of firing from subs and ships are things you should've done by now.

 

[Sardar Singh]

INDIA DIRECTLY SHIPPED THIS MISSILE FROM RUSSIA OR ISRAEL WAT A JOKE ALL INDIAN MISSILES R IMPORTED FROM RUSSIA ND ISRAEL ND THEN INDIA CALLS IT IS DOMESTICALLY MADE WAT A JOKE.

@Bratva Neg rating for this guy?

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

I dont know, so you can actually hit other relevant parts of India, duh. And making it capable of firing from subs and ships are things you should've done by now.

We have ballistic missiles to hit all parts of india.

Dude, you really want us to use our cruise missiles to hit indian parts 2000km away when you know that cruise missiles are SUB-SONIC and it would take HOURS before it reaches its destination? lol

To hit farther parts of india, we'll use ballistic missiles which will take minutes.

Cruise missiles are stealthy and for pin point accuracy for strategic targets...and we have that capability with babur since almost all strategic targets for us would lie within 600km and indian capital, military command and control centers etc are also under babur's range.

So why waste time/resource on increasing further range while we can use same resources to make Babur more technologically advance (which we have made it already)?

 

[Water Car Engineer]

We have ballistic missiles to hit all parts of india.

Dude, you really want us to use our cruise missiles to hit indian parts 2000km away when you know that cruise missiles are SUB-SONIC and it would take HOURS before it reaches its destination? lol

To hit farther parts of india, we'll use ballistic missiles which will take minutes.

Cruise missiles are stealthy and for pin point accuracy for strategic targets...and we have that capability with babur since almost all strategic targets for us would lie within 600km and indian capital, military command and control centers etc are also under babur's range.

So why waste time/resource on increasing further range while we can use same resources to make Babur more technologically advance (which we have made it already)?

And why not? Chinese, Russians, US have/utilize several types of 1000++km subsonic cruise missiles for anti ship, land attack. And please tell me why you havent even serviced it in your navy, at the very least after how long?

 

[Kloitra]

TERCOM =/= Radar Altimeter (used for sea-skimming aboard AShMs). Basic knowledge what?

It can be assumed that DRDO didn't go for employing TERCOM in this flight (will in the future), and instead used simple radar altimeter (for maintaining a safe altitude) so that the other test flight parameters are validated first. Given the track record of DRDO with public releases, it seems highly improbable that this test employed TERCOM and DRDO didn't release any kind of information about it, not even a statement.

Doesn't the TERCOM use altimeter? What other options are available?

 

[TeesraIndiotHunter]

And why not? Chinese, Russians, US have/utilize several types of 1000++km subsonic cruise missiles for anti ship, land attack.

Dude, you serious?

Every nation makes weapons according to its own needs/doctrine/threat-perceptions..

You know Pakistan's threat-perception. Our military-machine is geared up to take on india...not Israel, not Europe, not Iran, not Srilanka...BUT india!

So all our weapons would be india-centric.

China/Russia/America need long-range cruise missiles because of their own size and the size of their perceived enemies.

For us, range is secondary once we have achieved required range to target india.

Hence you also haven't seen ballistic missiles from Pak with increased range. Not because we can't make them, but because we ALREADY have what we want...and now we are diverting our resources towards other weapon systems..that too..india specific (Point in case: Nasr battle-field quasi-ballistic tactical weapon system)....

You might see increased range of Pakistan's weapons/cruise missiles...but rest assured, it won't be before we develop all of the technologies we want. (Anti BMD systems for our missiles, pinpoint accuracy, completion of JF-17's upgradation, Al Khalid-II tanks, perfection of TERCOM/DMAC, and so on)...

And please tell me why you havent even serviced it in your navy, at the very least after how long?

There is a difference in "not even servicing in our navy" and "not announcing it publicly"

Also, development of cruise-missiles---and perfection of most advance technologies like TERCOM/DMAC...takes years.

Your nirbhay isn't reaching of today's level of Babur atleast for next six years.

 

[shaheenmissile]

Doesn't the TERCOM use altimeter? What other options are available?

Yes it has an altimeter plus stored data for terrain contours,which it matches with readings it gets from altimeter.If readings match with programmed terrain altitude data then missile knows its on right path. If not the the system maneuvers left and right to try and find the right contours,thus correcting missile course.Thats why it is called TERCOM or Terrain contour matching and isn't just an altimeter but a navigation system as explained above.

 

[SSG COMMANDO 100]

PAKISTAN SHOULD INCREASE BABURS RANGE TO 1000 KM ND1500 KM ND ALSO PAKISTAN SHOULD UPGRADE ALL ITS MISSILES ND INCREASE ITS MISSILES SPEED TO SUPERSONIC ND HYPERSONIC LEVEL SO THT 10S OF THOUSANDS PAKISTANI HYPERSONIC ND SUPERSONIC MISSILES HIT INDIAN AIR BASES INDIAN ARMY BASES INDIAN COMMAND ND CONTROL CENTRES INDIAN NUCLEAR INSTALLATIONS INDIAN PARLIAMENT INDIAN CITIES ETC.

 

[The_Sidewinder]

PAKISTAN SHOULD INCREASE BABURS RANGE TO 1000 KM ND1500 KM ND ALSO PAKISTAN SHOULD UPGRADE ALL ITS MISSILES ND INCREASE ITS MISSILES SPEED TO SUPERSONIC ND HYPERSONIC LEVEL SO THT 10S OF THOUSANDS PAKISTANI HYPERSONIC ND SUPERSONIC MISSILES HIT INDIAN AIR BASES INDIAN ARMY BASES INDIAN COMMAND ND CONTROL CENTRES INDIAN NUCLEAR INSTALLATIONS INDIAN PARLIAMENT INDIAN CITIES ETC.

Caps lock on buddy

 

[Water Car Engineer]

There is a difference in "not even servicing in our navy" and "not announcing it publicly"

Or, you just dont have it.

Your nirbhay isn't reaching of today's level of Babur atleast for next six years.

It's in developmental phase for the next 4-6 years. The base model will come with a terminal seeker, loitering capability, and a longer range, etc.

You know Pakistan's threat-perception. Our military-machine is geared up to take on india...not Israel, not Europe, not Iran, not Srilanka...BUT india!

Yeah, shipyards and other wartime infrastructure are in Mumbai, etc. which is in India too. Which an increased ranged Babur can hit and cheaply compared to Ballistic missiles. You act like there's no advantage at all in increasing it's range.

 

[desimorty]

Babur is nothing more than license produciton of yj-62 missile of the chinese. Have a look.

Slight difference to increase range, but the critical components are probably purchased off the shelf from China right now.
However with the lack of transperancy is speculation, but the Chinese beleive this to be true. And so do it.

 

[shaheenmissile]

Babur is nothing more than license produciton of yj-62 missile of the chinese. Have a look.

Slight difference to increase range, but the critical components are probably purchased off the shelf from China right now.
However with the lack of transperancy is speculation, but the Chinese beleive this to be true. And so do it.

Similarly Brahmos is a licenced production of Yakhont? And looking at similarities between air intake and wing opening system of Nirbhay and Klub class. Nirbay too can be said a modified Klub class?