India spanks USA over diplomat arrest issue !

[Sashan]

I never claimed her to be CIA agent or anything. And no- no one makes any assumptions. In any case it's irrelevant. She's ours so we want her back. If you want to lick them up and be against your people that's fine.

Now now - you can take your certification of patriotism elsewhere. I am just pointing out to the claim of the ex-RAW officer which contrasts your claim that she knows secrets. The ex-RAW official has more or less confirmed that she is a paper pusher and nothing more. Personal attacks are the last resort of cowards. You might be smarter than me but learn not to resort to personal attacks. Beyond that, I do not give two hoots on what you say.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Hope this episode comes to an end sooner than later..& this lady is brought back to India. There's a lot she has to answer back home. This public sympathy she is enjoying at the moment will soon be thing of past.

 

[faithfulguy]

Dont worry Indian governemnt already start tough reciprocal action. And US is now talking about bilateral co-operation.You dont give us enough explanation.Are you a diplomat ,or something like that?You boast you know too much about international laws.I showed you some points and I have enough proof for that.
You are perfect idiot so idiot machine not work in your case.
In international laws any person in foreign country must foreign rules .Indian citizens is under Indian rule,not US.If you want to arrest diplomat you can do that.But treat her as a human being not some criminals and for arrest that diplomat ,you dont need to 'evacuate' Indian citizens from India and ridiculed our judicial system.
Keep your US law in US,dont use it to evacuate Indian citizens from 'India'.
You can argue if you know enough background of this incident.Unfortunately you dont know nothing about it and try to justify US rant .We dont need that.

Indian citizen should only follow Indian law, not US law. US law has no jurisdiction in India. However, when an Indian enter the US, they have to follow the US law. Its respectful and right for Indians, including diplomats, to follow the US law once they are in the US. Otherwise, look at what happen to your diplomat.

Hope this episode comes to an end sooner than later..& this lady is brought back to India. There's a lot she has to answer back home. This public sympathy she is enjoying at the moment will soon be thing of past.

Once she is acquitted by the US court or serve her terms if she is guilty, she can return home to India.

 

[SrNair]

Indian citizen should only follow Indian law, not US law. US law has no jurisdiction in India. However, when an Indian enter the US, they have to follow the US law. Its respectful and right for Indians, including diplomats, to follow the US law once they are in the US. Otherwise, look at what happen to your diplomat.

That whats I am talking about.The diplomat indeed made a mistake.But this salary information already know by US authority,and US already know Indian diplomats cant pay wages to their maid more than
their own salary.
They 'evacuate ' Indian citizens under Indian rule from India.That some thing we cant digest

 

[faithfulguy]

That whats I am talking about.The diplomat indeed made a mistake.But this salary information already know by US authority,and US already know Indian diplomats cant pay wages to their maid more than
their own salary.
They 'evacuate ' Indian citizens under Indian rule from India.That some thing we cant digest

Is this 'evacuation' consist of buying a ticket for someone to leave the country? How is that evacuation.

 

[SrNair]

Is this 'evacuation' consist of buying a ticket for someone to leave the country? How is that evacuation.

that idiot US attorney stated like that.Who give him the authority for this action?

 

[Iggy]

Is this 'evacuation' consist of buying a ticket for someone to leave the country? How is that evacuation.

Will tell you.. The husband had a case filed over him.. India issued warning to US embassy that there is a chance that he might try to escape to US.. Despite the warning US gave him VISA and allowed him to fly to US which is clearly a contempt of the court.. And it was Mr. Barera who said maid's family has been evacuated.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Once she is acquitted by the US court or serve her terms if she is guilty, she can return home to India.

Are you a parrot, funny boy?

 

[Mujraparty]

In a new twist, it has now emerged that senior Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade enjoyed full diplomatic immunity including from personal arrest and detention on December 12 when she was taken into custody by the US authorities in a visa fraud case.

39-year-old Khobragade, who was posted as Deputy Consul General in New York, was also accredited as an "Advisor to the Permanent Mission of India to the United Nations" by the UN w.e.f. 26th August 2013 and her status as an Advisor was valid until 31 December 2013. The accreditation was for the UN General Assembly 2013.

Under the "Convention on the Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations", Article 4 Section 11A specifies "Immunities from personal arrest or detention and from the seizure of their personal baggage" of all representatives of members to the UN and further the Article specifies that the expression "Representative" shall be deemed to include all Delegates, Deputy Delegates, Advisors, Technical Experts and

Devyani Khobragade had full diplomatic immunity at the time of arrest - Indian Express

 

[faithfulguy]

Will tell you.. The husband had a case filed over him.. India issued warning to US embassy that there is a chance that he might try to escape to US.. Despite the warning US gave him VISA and allowed him to fly to US which is clearly a contempt of the court.. And it was Mr. Barera who said maid's family has been evacuated.

Who give US gov the warning? If its Indian courts, does India judicial system has jurisdiction over the US government? If its Indian foreign service or gov agencies, than there is no contempt of the court.

 

[Iggy]

Who give US gov the warning? If its Indian courts, does India judicial system has jurisdiction over the US government? If its Indian foreign service or gov agencies, than there is no contempt of the court.

Dude, if you are trying to spread your ignorance here please spare me.. by warning I didnt meant somebody went to threaten US.. Indian court forewarded the notice to US agencies regarding the case against Richards and Sangeeta and despite all these US govenment allowed VISA to Richard and let him move to US.. If you think Indian government have no jurisdiction, then what makes you think that US have jurisdiction over what happen in India.. Who gaves US the authority to evacuate a person who is under trial in India?

 

[Developereo]

Indian court forewarded the notice to US agencies regarding the case against Richards and Sangeeta and despite all these US govenment allowed VISA to Richard and let him move to US..

I hate to break this to you but hardly anyone outside India would believe those Indian cases against Richards to be legitimate. They are harassment, pure and simple, pushed by the consul's father -- who seems to be a real jerk and who has a lot of connections.

Those cases actually make India look bad and show that the Indian judicial system can be played by the rich and powerful.

 

[JayAtl]

Nobody is arguing over the jurisdictions of US government organs here. The net result is a snub to India.

Does the law of the country also requires to 'evacuate' citizens of a friendly country from the purview of the local law?

Ask Preet Bharara what it means.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/20/nyregion/fury-in-india-over-diplomats-arrest-in-new-york.html?_r=0

Pfft... who complained that US forced them to immigrate? And who called them criminals? If they are(not) it will be proved in an Indian court. But the US government did its dirty job, hastening their visa process and according to some claims also bought tickets for them.

No worries then. The process is under way. The woman gets her due in India. In fact she is already getting it.

why should I ask preet. It seems indians in India think the word " evacuate" is too touchy obviously.

Why is the word evacuate so touchy for you, it is just a term/word he used, it is not a legal term or basis.

Even so - The "evacuated" was the family... is the family guilty if one member is suspect? Is that how laws work in India? If your sister goes out and commits a crime in another city, in india do they put your entire family " under seize"... because every blood relationship is automatically guilty.

I know this, the reason why you guys are so touchy is because the word " evacuate" is enflaming. It is all over the silly choice of words Preet chose to use. There was no black hawk copters or special forces here ...

Preet should have said " asylum' from the harassment of the elites on this poor family!

That whats I am talking about.The diplomat indeed made a mistake.But this salary information already know by US authority,and US already know Indian diplomats cant pay wages to their maid more than
their own salary.
They 'evacuate ' Indian citizens under Indian rule from India.That some thing we cant digest

you constantly talking through your arse.

salary has to meet minimum wages and labor laws of the country you are residing in and not where you come from! mor__n

 

[faithfulguy]

I hate to break this to you but hardly anyone outside India would believe those Indian cases against Richards to be legitimate. They are harassment, pure and simple, pushed by the consul's father -- who seems to be a real jerk and who has a lot of connections.

Those cases actually make India look bad and show that the Indian judicial system can be played by the rich and powerful.

Its clear that this is a case of someone well connected bully underprivileged. You see this over the world. But in this case in India, its so blatant that its an embarrassment to the nation of Indian. The worse part is that India is continuing this embarrassment in the US make this an international news. What an embarrassment to India!!!!!!

 

[JayAtl]

The word "evacuate" was used by Preet Bharara, hence the quotation marks.
The family of the maid travelled to the US on tickets under Tax exemption for US embassy (in other words, US embassy sponsored their travel to the US).

She was not just any lady, she was an Indian diplomat. She should not have been handcuffed and strip searched. The outrage is because the US is making a habit out of it.

Why is so difficult for you guys to comprehend that it was out of their own free will and as free legal citizens of India! there is no legal basis for them not to travel if they chose to and the country travelling accepted their request. Whether they traveled under tax exemption or not is moot. they were legally free to travel on their own free will! They chose to go...

and what part of being arrested = handcuffing do you not get? if it is deemed to be a crime then handcuffs is a part of the arrest. as simple as that...

now the part where we messed up was the " changing of clothes into jail attire= strip search". That could have been and should have been avoided because US laws permit that. But it upto the jail house officers. then too- There is no body cavity search like everyone thinks a strip search means... simple change of clothes with a female attendant present. thats it.