India’s vanishing Parsis

[pk_baloch]

Yes, but Malik is ultimately derived from Arabic. So that is probably how it got to the Indian subcontinent, while Shah is a indigenous Persian word.

arabic +turkish +persian = urdu .....malik is the urdu word......

 

[Jackdaws]

Don't want to get into the race bit here bro.

We are happy being who we are and know where we have come from.

Doc, You happen to live in Dadar Parsi colony?

 

[pk_baloch]

Yes, but Malik is ultimately derived from Arabic. So that is probably how it got to the Indian subcontinent, while Shah is a indigenous Persian word.

r u parsi???it seems u r !!!


btw after the advent of islam in subcontinent ,the fiest invader who came in sub-continent was arabs hence there language was arabic,the later conqueror spoke turkish and persian ,as influened by and modified by arabic ...though arabic remained the language of religion,persian became the language of the court during muslim rule..persian was therefore,seriously studied by all those hindus hindus and muslims who sought administration positions,but it could not become the language of the masses .....hence arabic ,turkish and persian had to intermix with the local languages and give bith the new language which is urdu .......present day it is the languge of urdu speaker who live in the pakistan and muslims of bihar,up.

thanx





these are the alphabets of the urdu which are similar to arabic and persian ,turkish.........our national anthem also in persian .and we undrstand it easily

 

[Shahin Vatani]

r u parsi???it seems u r !!!

I am Iranian.

Shah is obtained from the word Sahukar(merchant community). Malik is Jaat clan, its coincidence it is similar to Arabic.
Some Persian name looks similar to Hindi, like you have a city called Nishapur, in Hindi Nisha means night, pur means city.

Yeah, also you have some cities which finish in Abad. Like Hyderabad. In Persian that would mean built/made by Hyder. Other similar words I've noticed are cheragh/chirag, delbar, yaar and bichare amongst others.

these are the alphabets of the urdu which are similar to arabic and persian ,turkish.........our national anthem also in persian .and we undrstand it easily

Yeah, Urdu is pretty much a mixture of Hindi, with Middle Eastern influence as you said. I know that traditional Urdu is quite different to that spoken by normal people. The day to day spoken Urdu is more similar to Hindi and that is why you can understand each other more easily.

 

[INDIC]

I am Iranian.



Yeah, also you have some cities which finish in Abad. Like Hyderabad. In Persian that would mean built/made by Hyder. Other similar words I've noticed are cheragh/chirag, delbar, yaar and bichare amongst others.

These are indeed Persian words used in India. Hyderabad, Ahmedabad, Allahabad etc. etc.
We also use native one pur, Nagar(city), garh(fort) etc.

 

[pk_baloch]

Yeah, Urdu is pretty much a mixture of Hindi, with Middle Eastern influence as you said. I know that traditional Urdu is quite different to that spoken by normal people. The day to day spoken Urdu is more similar to Hindi and that is why you can understand each other more easily.

atually muslims and hindus societies had different culture aspects ,the muslims (as usual) claim that their culture is different because its an islamic culture ...muslims of india ,by general constent consider urdu as their own ,the hindus have their own labguage ,hindi ,which leans heavily from sanskrit for its vocalburay ,urdu on the other is more from persian and arabic ,some of the pharase are from hindi ,in india the hindus looked their own ancient philosophy just as the muslims trace their intellectual ancestory to muslims thinkers like avicenna and al-ghazli...........and yes tradition urdu is quite diiferent ,not only urdu but hindi aswell because of vast communication system ,media,newspaper internet ...fast trade one country to another and people travel one country to another .......i think if we will not preserve our language ...our language will becomethe mixture of english,urdu,hindi etc after thousand years

 

[INDIC]

atually muslims and hindus societies had different culture aspects ,the muslims (as usual) claim that their culture is different because its an islamic culture ...muslims of india ,by general constent consider urdu as their own ,the hindus have their own labguage ,hindi ,which leans heavily from sanskrit for its vocalburay ,urdu on the other is more from persian and arabic ,some of the pharase are from hindi ,in india the hindus looked their own ancient philosophy just as the muslims trace their intellectual ancestory to muslims thinkers like avicenna and al-ghazli...........and yes tradition urdu is quite diiferent ,not only urdu but hindi aswell because of vast communication system ,media,newspaper internet ...fast trade one country to another and people travel one country to another .......i think if we will not preserve our language ...our language will becomethe mixture of english,urdu,hindi etc after thousand years

I never understood why Pakistanis are so allergic to Sanskrit when all Indo-Aryan languages originated from Sanskrit.

 

[Erhabi]

arabic +turkish +persian = urdu .....malik is the urdu word......

Malik is an Arabic and Northwest Semitic (eg Neo Aramaic) word meaning "king, chieftain" or angel. it is very similar to the Arabic name/ word malek مالِك

source wiki


Like many prestigious titles, Malik or Malek is a common element in first and family names.For example, Awan Malik is a large community in Pakistan with Arab heritage. Malik is used both as title and surname in Pakistan.

just for info we are not descents of Hindus or Pakhtoons or Persians we simply invaded Subcontinent n settled dere

 

[pk_baloch]

I never understood why Pakistanis are so allergic to Sanskrit when all Indo-Aryan languages originated from Sanskrit.

ur sanskrit was orginated from Indo-European,indo iraninan and in ancient time sanskrit was only spoken by Bramhins......
sindhi ,punjabi,sindhi,pasto are also basically aryan language and developed from prakrit ( local people's language) and during a thousand years of use these sindhi ,pasto.punjabi overlaid with arabic and persian words and ideas....

 

[pk_baloch]

Malik is an Arabic and Northwest Semitic (eg Neo Aramaic) word meaning "king, chieftain" or angel. it is very similar to the Arabic name/ word malek مالِك

source wiki


Like many prestigious titles, Malik or Malek is a common element in first and family names.For example, Awan Malik is a large community in Pakistan with Arab heritage. Malik is used both as title and surname in Pakistan.

just for info we are not descents of Hindus or Pakhtoons or Persians we simply invaded Subcontinent n settled dere

LOL im not agree with ur last line hahahaha...and yes malik is the arabic word .here is SOME NAMES OF GOD from 100 names .....

 

[Black Widow]

atually muslims and hindus societies had different culture aspects ,the muslims (as usual) claim that their culture is different because its an islamic culture ...muslims of india ,by general constent consider urdu as their own ,the hindus have their own labguage ,hindi ,which leans heavily from sanskrit for its vocalburay ,urdu on the other is more from persian and arabic ,some of the pharase are from hindi ,in india the hindus looked their own ancient philosophy just as the muslims trace their intellectual ancestory to muslims thinkers like avicenna and al-ghazli...........and yes tradition urdu is quite diiferent ,not only urdu but hindi aswell because of vast communication system ,media,newspaper internet ...fast trade one country to another and people travel one country to another .......i think if we will not preserve our language ...our language will becomethe mixture of english,urdu,hindi etc after thousand years

Urdu is born from Persian and Hindi, Persian was parsi language, Hindi was Indian. So how come Muslims came into picture???

Arabic/Turkik was spoken much before Islam was founded, Arabic was language of Pagan/Hindu living in Arabia (who later converted to Islam), Turkik was language of Turk Nomads (Much before Islam was born).

So if some one is saying "Urdu is Muslism/Islamic" language he is wrong. Urdu was born in India (In UP) So urdu is Indian Language.


If Muslims start speaking Hindi , will hindi become Muslism's language????

The truth is , except Koran , nothing is Islamic. All practices done in Islam is borrowed/taken form existing religions.

@Topic: India’s vanishing Parsis



I don't know bout India, but one Parsi (VSDOC) definitely vanished from PDF..

 

[INDIC]

ur sanskrit was orginated from Indo-European,indo iraninan and in ancient time sanskrit was only spoken by Bramhins......
sindhi ,punjabi,sindhi,pasto are also basically aryan language and developed from prakrit ( local people's language) and during a thousand years of use these sindhi ,pasto.punjabi overlaid with arabic and persian words and ideas....

Prakrit originated from Sanskrit. Your national language Urdu originated entirely in India.

 

[angeldust]

LOL im not agree with ur last line hahahaha...and yes malik is the arabic word .here is SOME NAMES OF GOD from 100 names .....

Ahura Mazda has 101 names. We never stop at 100, or multiples thereof. It is always auspicious to have One more.

So here are the 101 names of AHURA MAZDA:

Name
(Meanings)
1. Yazad
(Worthy of Worship)
2. Harvesp tavãn
(Omnipotent)
3. Harvesp âgâh
(Omniscient)
4. Harvesp khudâ
(The Lord of the Universe)
5. Abadah
(Wonderful)
6. Abî-anjãm
(Having no end)
7. Bûneshtêh
(The Source of all Creation)
8. Frâkhtan-têh
(The Noble End of everything)
9. Chamag
(The Lord of Reasoning)
10. Parjatarah
(The Exalted)
11. Tum-afik
(The Most Innocent)
12. Abarvand
(The Unique)
13. Parvandâ
(Over and around everybody)
14. An-aiyâfah
(One who cannot be comprehended)
15. Ham-aiyâfah
(One who has the measure of everybody)
16. Âdarô
(The Most Straight forward)
17. Gîrâ
(The Supreme Control)
18. A-chem
(The Causeless Cause)
19. Chamanâ
(The Cause of all causes)
20. Safnâ
(The Bringer of Prosperity)
21. Afazâ
(The Lord of Plenty)
22. Nâshâ
(One Whose help reaches all)
23. Parvarâ
(The Maintainer of all)
24. Iyânah
(The Lord Protector)
25. Âin-âênah
(The Prototype of all forms of Creation)
26. Ân-âinah
(Having no physical form)
27. Khrôshîdtum
(The firmest of the firm)
28. Mînôtum
(The Most Invisible)
29. Vâsnâ
(Omni-present)
30. Harvastum
(The Most Supreme)
31. Hu-sepâs
(Deserving of thanks)
32. Har-hamîd
(Unparallelled)
33. Har-nek-farêh
(The Haloed Spirit)
34. Bêsh-tarnâ
(The Reliever of all pain and suffering)
35. Tarônîsh
(The Triumphant)
36. An-aoshak
(Immortal)
37. Farsak
(The Father of all progress)
38. Pajôh-dahad
(The Creator of good nature)
39. Khvâfar
(The Bountiful)
40. Avakshhiâêyâ
(The Forgiving)
41. Abarzâ
(The Most Exalted)
42. A-satôh
(The Invincible)
43. Rakhôh
(The Independent)
44. Varûn
(Worthy of the faith reposed un Him)
45. A-farefah
(One who cannot be deceived)
46. Bê-farêfah
(The Undeceived)
47. A-duî
(Having no equal)
48. Kãmêrad
(The Lord of Desire)
49. Farmãn-kãm
(One who can command as He pleases)
50. Âekh-tan
(The One and Only)
51. A-farmôsh
(One who never forgets)
52. Hamârnâ
(The Settler of all Accounts)
53. Sanâêâ
(One who knows everybody)
54. A-tars
(The Undaunted)
55. A-bîsh
(Free from pain and suffering)
56. Afrâzdum
(The Highest)
57. Ham-chûn
(Eternally the same)
58. Mînô-stîh-gar
(The Creator of all that is spiritual)
59. Amînô-gar
(The Creator of all that is material)
60. Mînô nahab
(The Hidden Spirit)
61. Âdar-bâd-gar
(One who can change fire into air)
62. Âdar-nam-gar
(One who can change fire into water)
63. Bâd-âdar-gar
(One who can change air into fire)
64. Bâd-nam-gar
(One who can change air into water)
65. Bâd-gêl-gar
(One who can reduce air to ashes)
66. Bâd-gerad-tum
(One who can reduce air into dust)
67. Âdar-Kîbarît-tum
(One who can change fire into a percious stone)
68. Bâd-gar-jâê
(One who produces fresh air everywhere)
69. Âb-tum
(The Creator of the plentiful waters)
70. Gêl-âdar-gar
(One who can transform ashes into fire)
71. Gêl-vâd-gar
(One who can transform ashes into air)
72. Gêl-nam-gar
(One who can transform ashes into water)
73. Gar-gar
(The Master Architect)
74. Gar-ô-gar
(The Fulfiller of all desires)
75. Gar-â-gar
(The Creator of Mankind)
76. Gar-â-gar-gar
(The Creator of the entire Universe)
77. Agarâ gar
(The Creator of the four elements of nature)
78. Agarâgar-gar
(The Creator of the elements of nature as well the stars)
79. A-gûmãn
(The undoubted)
80. A-zamân
(The Infinite)
81. A-khuãn
(The Ever-Awake)
82. Âmasht
(The Supreme Intelligence)
83. Fashûtanâ
(One who looks after the well-being of all)
84. Padmânî
(The Lord of Moderation)
85. Fîrôzgar
(The Victorious)
86. Khudâvand
(The King of the Universe)
87. Ahuramazd
(The Omniscient Creator of all life)
88. Abarîn-kuhan tavãn
(The Preserver of all that is ancient)
89. Abarîn-nô-tavãn
(The Great Rejuvenator)
90. Vaspãn
(One who reaches the entire creation)
91. Vaspâr
(The Lord Beneficent)
92. Khâwar
(The Merciful)
93. Ahû
(Existence itself, the one and only Reality)
94. Awakshîdâr
(The One who can forgive)
95. Dâdâr
(The Creator)
96. Rayômand
(The Radiant)
97. Khôremand
(The Glorious)
98. Dâvar
(The Dispenser of Justice)
99. Kêrfêgar
(The Lord of meritorious deeds)
100. Bôkhtâr
(The Reliever of all troubles)
101. Frashôgar
(The Resurrector)

 

[INDIC]

Do you fellows know any sweet Parsi or Irani girls for me

I am a banker, 30, do not smoke, pub occasionally, am 5'10", not bad looking, still have all my hair, no specs, do not live with my parents.

vsdoc bhai koi cche tamara orkhaan maan

Mota Bhai, you are still unmarried, what about those stories of chocolates and flowers you told to Khalajaan jinxed_girl..

 

[pk_baloch]

Prakrit originated from Sanskrit. Your national language Urdu originated entirely in India.

no never classical sanskrit was orginated from prakrit also ,do u know about Ardhmagadhi ,Shourseni,
Jain Maharashtri .........