India’s nuclear logic

[Mitro]

Let me put hypothetical Question What will india do if pakistan Attack with massive Nuclear weapons and take out our Communication and command centre ,power grid,ports and destoyed city.

Strategic force if survive How they will access the situation and how they will retaliate and under who's command ,will they have the nuclear code to activate nuclear device .

 

[Sedqal]

from what I can make out after reading on the battle field tactical nukes doctrine of Pakistan is tactical nukes if used in a war scenario, then it will be backed by a full fledged "Massive Strike" Strategical nukes on stand by, the launching orders of which will be depending on the type of action India choses to take, if it chooses a full fledged nuclear retaliation to the use of battle field nukes then immediately the Massive strike Strategical nukes will be launched simultaneously thus ensuring a "mutual annihilation", whatever be the case, one thing is for sure that if there has to be a full fledged Strategical nuke strike then it will not be a single nuke but a Massive strike from both the sides

Oh man I got a boner from just reading this term.

 

[skysthelimit]

- Those weapons will never be used by terrorists, far too much has already been written about it.

Oh really? Remind me how Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan didn't bomb Karachi yesterday. Guess we can all rest easy.

- If India attacks, Pakistan will try its best to cripple the nuclear strike capability of India in the first strike (which will be composed of many nukes). That is the very reason of Nasr's deployment.

Exactly how are you going to "Cripple"India's first strike capability using the 60KM range Nasr? The only point of Nasr is that it is supposed to protect Pakistan from being overrun by Indian conventional forces, but any use of Nasr also means that Pakistan will be entirely decimated, so ultimately there is no point.

- India's whining how deployment of Nasr is not in Pakistan's interest is a joke, you do realize Pakistan/ India fought four wars.

All India cares about is that Pakistan doesn't increase the nuclear risk in an already volatile environment, but even that seems to be to much to ask for.

Oh man I got a boner from just reading this term.

Buy Viagra - it's cheaper

 

[peep]

Let me put hypothetical Question What will india do if pakistan Attack with massive Nuclear weapons and take out our Communication and command centre ,power grid,ports and destoyed city.

Strategic force if survive How they will access the situation and how they will retaliate and under who's command ,will they have the nuclear code to activate nuclear device .

Your query inherently assumes that all indians will be sleeping tight and wake up one fine morning to realize that every communication system and all military are gone ? Is that the premise you want to start with ? In that case i wont break your mental masturbation !

 

[Invincible INDIAN]

In a way, yes.
But an Iraq or Libya under those two could have been a different kind of bad.

yup, under Gaddafi/Saddam they were not getting raped, they were not been hit bullets having depleted uranium. Take a look on below pics after Iraq war. Now you can understand what I mean:

 

[Capt.Popeye]

You are right The number factor is huge but thats what i said Pakistan will try to attack all possible targets try to take out as many as possible at end it will come to best guess and intelligence reports Pakistan will not send a paper to Delhi that we are going to Use Nukes and its nor Russia or US where Missile shields will work , yes you are right about Rules about 1 thing you have to take in mind again the number factor and your tech In many fields India have far superior weapons with a great number of human resources so using nukes will be always 2nd option On Pakistani side its vice versa

So are you trying to say that Pakistan's first option going into a War is to commit "Hara-Kiri" or Suicide?

 

[Sedqal]

So are you trying to say that Pakistan's first option going into a War is to commit "Hara-Kiri" or Suicide?

And you are saying that Pakistan should let a conventionally superior India to overwhelm it while chanting Shanti Shanti?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

And you are saying that Pakistan should let a conventionally superior India to overwhelm it while chanting Shanti Shanti?

Did I say that at all?
While he said that Pakistan's "first option" is to use Nuclear weapons while saying that India's "second option" is to use Nukes. Read both our posts for clarity, if you wish.

 

[Bang Galore]

And you are saying that Pakistan should let a conventionally superior India to overwhelm it while chanting Shanti Shanti?

So what's the alternative. Commit suicide immediately?

 

[ghauri05]

Moral of the story is "India is Frightened by NASR"

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Moral of the story is "India is Frightened by NASR"

No; India is afraid of "Goldilocks".........

 

[N3oN]

Moral of the story is "India is Frightened by NASR"

Ha.. Dont be proud of wepon which can kill millions of people.. India is not at all afraid of you.. In fact you people know that you can not match us in conventional war your army has no such capabilities so you R devoloping such wepons and telling us if you start war we will use it.. Go ahead.. And bye bye forever.. You will not be there to see the consequences.
Stop trolling please. This is Pakistan defends forum and you yourself doesn't know the capability of Pakistani forces.. Lol

 

[Badbadman]

see indians fail to realize that india has no first use policy so If war breaks out and pakistan use nukes first because pakistan has no such policy IAEA has to register that the strike took place was a nuclear strike and then india can retaliate SO indian are really naive to think that pakistan will only use 2 to 3 warhead in first strike and then let india Destroy the whole pakistan pakistan will leave nothing at chance and will use 90% of the stock pile in first wave strike while india (what ever is left Decide on to retaliate and will move the rest out of the country for the second wave Attack by the time pakistan is Done with first wave attack BECAUSE OF INDIAN POLICY of no first use PAKITAN WILL COME UPPER hand because most of the india will be useless only thing that will give pakistan run for its money is Ballistic sub REst assured that pakistan will try to take out every nuclear assest india have in that first Wave

and because of this indian policy they are at a dissadvantage because in war when you see a ballictic missile coming or a cruise missile coming they can not be assumed that it is a nuclear weapon it has to detonate first and register a nuclear yeild then only then india can strike back and Pakistan will take advantage of that fact very much and will try to destroy every land and air base asset india has in the first wave of war SO INDIAN NUCLEAR POLICY IS SOMETHING OF A DRDO PROJECT type realisticlly failed they should change it it will put pakistan on backfoot

Wait let me finish your post...........
Pakistan walks away unharmed and has destroyed India completely. Without even firing one bullet..... And sh!t I got up from my sleep, too many machars, since most of pakistan only gets electricity for 4 hrs per day. Still we can destroy India.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Oh man I got a boner from just reading this term.

And how did you get rid of that boner? By firing off a few Nasrs?

It is absurd that people can view Nukes as WME (Weapons oof Mass Entertainment) when in fact they are just WMD (Weapons of Mass Desperation) apart from that the inevitable Destruction attached to them.
It is even more fallacious to attempt offset a Tactical Weapon (with a 60km range) against Strategic Weapons; when use of either will just lead to the very same consequence.
Just think: the destruction of an Armored Regiment can lead to destruction of a Country! Very poor Mathematical skills among Strategists; as one can see.

 

[queerbait]

ok...lets imagine a situation when paksitan makes a nuclear strike against India.Now, remember nuking another country is not a joke,No sir its not.The only country that has used Nukes i.e USA still faces criticism over its actions,and we are talking about bombs 100 times bigger than those.So if and when pakistan uses nukes,it won't be wrong to assume that it would be launched in the middle of war b/w both the countries,further the assumption can also be made that uptill that time in the conventional war ,india would be having an advantage.Indian forces most probably have entered pakisitan or about to enter its territory.So lets see the possible scenarios :

1) Indian forces thoroughly defeated pakistan forces,in desperation and as a last resort pakistan resolves to use nuclear weapons against india.It sees that only way it can survive is by taking away all indian retaliatory strike option.It launches multiple nukes as some of pakistani's pointed out to various installation all over india.But,they forget one thing,we are not dunces over here.India already knows that this scenario might come,they have moved over their strike capabalities to a relatively unknown place.After the pakistani's strikes,India responds.Result : Say bye bye to subcontinet

2) Instead of multiple strikes,pakistan makes two or three sites at key cities like Delhi and Mumbai.India responds with multiple strikes as it has gained the right to self Defence.Seeing the chance,India chooses to eliminate the pakistan problem once and for all.
Result : Bye Bye pakistan,Half of India,some pieces of Afghanistan

3) Same scenario as above but pakistan uses Afghan bases to launch, which is Highly dubious,we are not talking of normal strikes but Nuclear strikes,and that also against a country which Afghanistan is friendly with.Still ,as we are firmly in the realm of fantasy,lets imagine Af bases are used.India response is same but this time both pakistan and afhganistan are the reciptients.
Add afghanistan to the above conclusion

4)This one is for my pakistani friends.Pakistani's attack india with multiple nuke strikes.All of india's retailatory return strikes capabilties are crippled.So is almost all of India...everyone Dead.The world realizes that there is a maniac with nuclear weopns,its like a kid has been give a magic wand with a default 'Aveda kedavra' spell installed.Nato,Russia and China(yes even china will get scared by pakistani's actions) decide that it has to be contained.They agree that the only way to take care is to nuke pakistan.These guys havs ICBM,sub-launcher.Multiple strikes launched deep into pakistan.
Result : Bye bye india,pakistan,large chunks of afhanistan,srilanka,some parts of bangladeh and yea after so many nuclear strikes we can also add mother earth also to the list

Al considered even a single nuke used (which i play to god never happens) will have atleast one definite outcome :Bye Bye Pakistan