India retaliates

[adwityagrata]

Yeah, but at least he seems to know what the problem is...

Even I know what the problem is. Plenty of people know.

 

[Indischer]

Even I know what the problem is. Plenty of people know.

Well, try joining the IFS and improving it from within then! My best wishes are with you.

 

[Indo-guy]

It is worse. The Diplomat was made to surrender her passport to the US court. So in reality she is already under Virtual Imprisonment and cannot leave the US.

True . there seems no way out for diplomat - India has to fight case for diplomatic immunity ....
Our legal eagles are going to stay busy with this case ...

there are so many angles into it ....
I am not sure how this impasse is going to be solved ....

In any case prestige of India has been damaged irreparably by this flagrant act of US authorities ....

India must teach its Diplomats to behave properly ....to prevent repetition of such humiliation in future...

 

[Kloitra]

Why is it a good step? She was under paying her maid which is a crime under US labor laws. Exploiting her maid will get you punished do not think since you are a diplomat you can go around breaking all laws.

If she was breaking a law, she has to be dealt with the due procedure. Arresting a diplomat is against the legal and moral conduct. If the US law agencies had any problem with her, they should have contacted the Indian consulate or whatever related agency.

This is what the message India is trying to send to US.

 

[PacificBeach]

Not at all. She was an Indian citizen and Indian courts have jurisdiction over her. Besides the contract was signed and registered in India so how can it be challenged in a foreign court ?

Her being an Indian citizen does not preclude her from using the judicial channels in US. That court decision is asking their citizen preemptively not to use their rights in other country. This is based on what principle exactly? They are just trying to protect their official.

In any case, if she goes thru the US system, it will be on US court to declare that they don't have any jurisdiction (if that indeed is the case). The decision of Indian court will not mean squad.

 

[adwityagrata]

True . there seems no way out for diplomat - India has to fight case for diplomatic immunity ....
Our legal eagles are going to stay busy with this case ...

there are so many angles into it ....
I am not sure how this impasse is going to be solved ....

In any case prestige of India has been damaged irreparably by this flagrant act of US authorities ....

India must teach its Diplomats to behave properly ....to prevent repetition of such humiliation in future...

I think you are a bit Naive to think there is no more sinister motive to this arrest.

Do you really think Indian maids and servants are the only one being underpaid in the US ? ...or that it happens only in the Indian consulates ?

It is plain and simple US blackmail and pressure tactics to send some message. I have no idea what that message is, but I think the people sitting in Delhi have a good Idea.

 

[Star Wars]

Times now saying she was stripped and searched ..... America is desperately trying to be the most hated country in the world

 

[adwityagrata]

Her being an Indian citizen does not preclude her from using the judicial channels in US. That court decision is asking their citizen preemptively not to use their rights in other country. This is based on what principle exactly? They are just trying to protect their official.

In any case, if she goes thru the US system, it will be on US court to declare that they don't have any jurisdiction (if that indeed is the case). The decision of Indian court will not mean squad.

It does not preclude her, but it also gives Indian court jurisdiction to prevent her from leaving its jurisdiction.

Courts in India are independent of the executive and legislative and not like the kangaroo courts you have in Turkey so you might want to go easy with the accusation.

Obviously if that maid every comes back to India, she will have to go to jail for contempt of court. Her only hope is for asylum in the US.

 

[Indo-guy]

Times now saying she was stripped and searched ..... America is desperately trying to be the most hated country in the world

There are still lot of servile countries and servile people in world vying for US attention and US benevolence

so even though hated ....US will still continue to draw hordes of wannabes ....on sheer strength of wealth....


US arrogance will one day lead to its fall !!!

and it will happen in our life time ....

 

[Indischer]

Times now saying she was stripped and searched ..... America is desperately trying to be the most hated country in the world

No. It's standard procedure while apprehending Diplomats. She might have been carrying a grenade or rocket launcher, you know!

 

[Star Wars]

There are still lot of servile countries and servile people in world vying for US attention and US benevolence

so even though hated ....US will still continue to draw hordes of wannabes ....on sheer strength of wealth....


US arrogance will one day lead to its fall !!!

and it will happen in our life time ....

don't get me started on that ....there are literally dozens of those fools around me

 

[Indo-guy]

Times now saying she was stripped and searched ..... America is desperately trying to be the most hated country in the world

Indeed ....


Diplomat Devyani strip-searched, India snubs US team - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: India's deputy consul general in New York Devyani Khobragade was strip-searched and confined with drug addicts after her detention in a visa fraud case. She was also subjected to DNA swabbing.

On Monday, India retaliated against the US for the humiliation of diplomat with Speaker Meira Kumar and NSA Shivshankar Menon refusing to meet a Congressional delegation on Monday.

Sources confirmed the government made it a point to convey to the delegation that the Speaker was not going to receive it because she had been deeply troubled by the manner in which Devyani had been dealt with by the US authorities. The 1999-batch IFS officer was detained near the school of her children and later handcuffed.

India snubs US delegation

India has finally retaliated against the US for the humiliation of Khobragade with Speaker Meira Kumar and NSA Shivshankar Menon refusing to meet a Congressional delegation on Monday.

Sources confirmed that the government made it a point to convey to the delegation that the Speaker was not going to receive them because she had been deeply troubled by the manner in which Khobragade, who is accused of visa fraud, had been dealt with by the US authorities. The 1999-batch IFS officer, working as India's deputy consul general in New York, was detained from near the school of her children and later handcuffed.

Menon too chose not to meet the delegation because of the same reason. Like Kumar, Khobragade also is a dalit IFS officer.

Khurshid meets team

Foreign minister Salman Khurshid did meet the delegation though keeping in mind the seniority of the Congressmen. The five-member delegation was led by Congressman George Holding, Representative for North Carolina's 13th congressional district, who serves on the foreign affairs committee and judiciary committee. The four other Congressmen are Pete Olson, David Schweikert, Robert Woodall and Madeliene Bordallo.

India has been deeply offended by the manner in which Khobragade was treated by the US authorities who chose to ignore her status as a middle-level diplomat from a friendly country. It has continued to emphasize before the State Department that the treatment meted out to Khobragade was in complete violation of Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (VCCR).

As a consular officer, Khobragade had certain privileges — even if she did not have diplomatic immunity — which New Delhi believes were denied to her. She had limited immunity as a consular officer and could be arrested only if her crime was grave. The government is backing Khobragade's lawyer's contention that if her crime was indeed grave, why she was released on bail just two hours after her arrest.

The state department earlier responded to the summoning of envoy Nancy Powell by foreign secretary Sujatha Singh by declaring that the consular officer did not have immunity under VCCR. India, however, sees this as an attempt to deflect attention from the real issue — the humiliation in public of an Indian diplomat. New Delhi has highlighted how the US authorities had violated Article 41 (Section 3) of VCCR which says that proceedings against a consular officer "shall be conducted with the respect due to him by reason of his official position."

Indeed ....


Diplomat Devyani strip-searched, India snubs US team - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: India's deputy consul general in New York Devyani Khobragade was strip-searched and confined with drug addicts after her detention in a visa fraud case. She was also subjected to DNA swabbing.

On Monday, India retaliated against the US for the humiliation of diplomat with Speaker Meira Kumar and NSA Shivshankar Menon refusing to meet a Congressional delegation on Monday.

Sources confirmed the government made it a point to convey to the delegation that the Speaker was not going to receive it because she had been deeply troubled by the manner in which Devyani had been dealt with by the US authorities. The 1999-batch IFS officer was detained near the school of her children and later handcuffed.

India snubs US delegation

India has finally retaliated against the US for the humiliation of Khobragade with Speaker Meira Kumar and NSA Shivshankar Menon refusing to meet a Congressional delegation on Monday.

Sources confirmed that the government made it a point to convey to the delegation that the Speaker was not going to receive them because she had been deeply troubled by the manner in which Khobragade, who is accused of visa fraud, had been dealt with by the US authorities. The 1999-batch IFS officer, working as India's deputy consul general in New York, was detained from near the school of her children and later handcuffed.

Menon too chose not to meet the delegation because of the same reason. Like Kumar, Khobragade also is a dalit IFS officer.

Khurshid meets team

Foreign minister Salman Khurshid did meet the delegation though keeping in mind the seniority of the Congressmen. The five-member delegation was led by Congressman George Holding, Representative for North Carolina's 13th congressional district, who serves on the foreign affairs committee and judiciary committee. The four other Congressmen are Pete Olson, David Schweikert, Robert Woodall and Madeliene Bordallo.

India has been deeply offended by the manner in which Khobragade was treated by the US authorities who chose to ignore her status as a middle-level diplomat from a friendly country. It has continued to emphasize before the State Department that the treatment meted out to Khobragade was in complete violation of Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (VCCR).

As a consular officer, Khobragade had certain privileges — even if she did not have diplomatic immunity — which New Delhi believes were denied to her. She had limited immunity as a consular officer and could be arrested only if her crime was grave. The government is backing Khobragade's lawyer's contention that if her crime was indeed grave, why she was released on bail just two hours after her arrest.

The state department earlier responded to the summoning of envoy Nancy Powell by foreign secretary Sujatha Singh by declaring that the consular officer did not have immunity under VCCR. India, however, sees this as an attempt to deflect attention from the real issue — the humiliation in public of an Indian diplomat. New Delhi has highlighted how the US authorities had violated Article 41 (Section 3) of VCCR which says that proceedings against a consular officer "shall be conducted with the respect due to him by reason of his official position."

So Khurshid did meet the delegation .....

why Government of India can't take tough stance atleast once ?

wha t message does it sends to US ?

what is the point in blowing hot and cold ?

are we so dependent on US that we can't do without them ???

 

[adwityagrata]

DNA Swabbing !!! WTF

That too without her permission !

Shame on Salman Krushid for receiving the Congressional delegation.

 

[IBRIS]

No more P8 Poseidon for you people ............ Do protest .

If you think we have paid for them all, then you are silly jumping up and down. Why do you think they are delivering everything earlier than the deadline set. They know the faster they deliver the faster the installment is processed. These are not handout like what some countries get in the name of Aid and hence never ever delivered.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

DNA Swabbing !!! WTF

That too without her permission !

Shame on Salman Krushid for receiving the Congressional delegation.

he is the muslim what more you can except the man who stole 10 lac by fogey ......