india receives first of 4 new 15b class destroyers

[lonelyman]

There is no Type 055 in the list, and Kolkata is ahead of Japan's Atago class. Indian media and Indian editors are shameless. LOL

1st, China Type 055,
2nd, Korea Sejong class,
3rd, USA Burke 3,
4th, China 052D,
5th, Japan Atago class,
6th, Japan Kongo class,
7th, Japan Aikizuki class,
8th, China Type 052C,
9th, Britain Type 45,
10th, French Horizon class.

Indian mouth cannons and ppt skills are indeed world class, actually no # 1

 

[MH.Yang]

Indian mouth cannons and ppt skills are indeed world class, actually no # 1

Indians don't want Chinese warships to rank first, so they don't want Type 055 to participate in the list. The reason must be:
1, the displacement of Type 055 is more than 10000 tons, which should be regarded as a cruiser. However, the Sejong class of South Korea and Burke3 class of the USA also exceeded 10000 tons. If these two don't participate in the ranking, China's 052D ranks first.
2, Type 055 just launched, so did not participate in the ranking. However, Type 055 has been launched in 2018, and 8 Type 055 have been launched. Burke 3 just was launched in June this year.

Indians secretly rank Kolkata class ahead of Japan's Atago class. Because they think that ranking Calcutta behind 052D can avoid the opposition of the Chinese people, and the Japanese have good relations with India, if Indians rank Kolkata class ahead of Japan's Atago class, the Japanese will not blame them.

 

[SMX 3.0]

Your "cobbled together with duct-tape" with 90% non-"indengious" weapons Kolkata class is now "one of the best warships ON THE PLANET"?

lol, the absolute irony of someone coming from a country that still operates vessels with open bridges (Type-whatever submarine chaser) saying this about an Area air defense destroyer with CEC capabilities, also armed with supersonic AShMs...

...and a nation that operates ISTAR satellites & ASATs...

Our capabilities speak for themselves, Billyboy. While your failure nation files 2 patents every year at USPTO & thinks that a refrigerator compressor is some kind of a triumph of engineering.

I guess you will need a copious amount of duct tape, given your nation's failure to produce even nuts & bolts.

The only thing Indian in a P800 ONYX supplied to India is the paint and name "Brahmos" painted on.

Any idea what this is? Really hope all that underwear stitching in that sweatshop hasn't gotten into your head, you might mistake this one for one of those briefs you stitched.

And research wise, writing volumes of research papers and filing patents are one thing, but coming up with actual workable solutions is something else entirely.

Such as this?

India tests missile that launches a torpedo hundreds of miles away- CNN

Someone from a country yet to produce a decently engineered motorcycle saying this.Hilarious stuff, really.

These are 60's era weapons.

A medium calibre gun on a warship is even older tech, Rakibul. Guess what, they are still found in modern warships.

Jokes aside - I cannot fathom how many slum kids could have gotten educated

Absolutely right!!! Do remember that the next time you talk about your supposedly ''indigenous'' Bangladeshi frigate that will be (hypothetically) be built.

According to UN-HABITAT, half of Bangladesh's urban population lives in slums
According to WHO-UNICEF JMP, half of Bangladesh's population have no access to basic sanitation
According to Bangladesh's very own BBS, only 30% of Bangladeshi houses have brick-cement walls

Maybe you should think about all those slums before you spend a whopping 9% of your puny $49 billion actual budget expenditure(No BBS Magic there) in defence.

Take a gander at the real India

The very fact that no Indian city has been ever ranked as the second least liveable should settle this debate. In your own words...

Right now we can't boast about middle income country, when Dhaka, our capital, looks like the piece of absolute $hit it does. Even third tier towns in India look better than Dhaka. "Churi" by AL goondas and mismanagement is the sole cause. Pukur Churi is a better word.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one.

 

[SMX 3.0]

It has less range than our 054ap frigates

Range always depends on the economic speed. I can't find reliable figures for the Type 054A.

The cm302 on our type 054a frigates out range the brahmos

CM-302 already has range lower than Brahmos, Brahmos range has been increased to 450 km & now is being increased to 600 km.

Indian Navy to acquire 38 extended range BrahMos missiles for new warships soon | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: In a bid to enhance the firepower of its warships, the Indian Navy has moved a proposal to acquire 38 extended range BrahMos supersonic cru.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

VLS it has the exact same amount.

Barak 8 is far superior to SARH Stihl missiles. The Kolkata was originally designed for 4 X 12 cell Stihl VLS

 

[Tornado23]

Just adding...
Talwaar class have over 4800 nautical miles.
Babur class have 3500 nautical miles

Talwar class is frigate
The babur class is a corvette you dolt

Why not compare it to the other frigates we have?

Type 054a - 14,000+ km
OHP - 8000+km

 

[SMX 3.0]

Type 054a - 14,000+ km

Source & at what speed exactly?

 

[Tornado23]

Source & at what speed exactly?

Type 054A (Jiangkai II) Class Frigate

Type 054A (Jiangkai-II) Class of missile frigates are being built by Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard and Huangpu Shipyard for the People’s Liberation Army Navy.

www.naval-technology.com

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Talwar class is frigate
The babur class is a corvette you dolt

Why not compare it to the other frigates we have?

Type 054a - 14,000+ km
OHP - 8000+km

Exactly, why you mentioned about babur.. If there is no comparison...?

 

[Tornado23]

Exactly, why you mentioned about babur.. If there is no comparison...?

I was talking about CAMM ER you helmet

 

[SMX 3.0]

Type 054A (Jiangkai II) Class Frigate

Type 054A (Jiangkai-II) Class of missile frigates are being built by Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard and Huangpu Shipyard for the People’s Liberation Army Navy.

www.naval-technology.com

It doesn't say anything about the speed at which the said range is achieved.

Range of Delhi, Kolkata & Vizag classes are comparable to Arleigh Burke class destroyers.

 

[faithfulguy]

There is no Type 055 in the list, and Kolkata is ahead of Japan's Atago class. Indian media and Indian editors are shameless. LOL

1st, China Type 055,
2nd, Korea Sejong class,
3rd, USA Burke 3,
4th, China 052D,
5th, Japan Atago class,
6th, Japan Kongo class,
7th, Japan Aikizuki class,
8th, China Type 052C,
9th, Britain Type 45,
10th, French Horizon class.

Kolkata should be disqualified as it has the firepower of most frigates. So it should be compare with other frigates. Or maybe even corvettes.
This is the result of Indian manufacturing. Their best and brightest are in America.

 

[SMX 3.0]

@Huffal

The ship has a standard range of about 3,800 nautical miles—7,037 kilometers–at a speed of 18 knots

China Launches New Type 054A Guided-Missile Stealth Frigate

The People’s Liberation Army Navy’s (PLAN) latest guided-missile frigate was launched on December 16.

thediplomat.com

Comparable to Talwar class frigates.

 

[Tornado23]

It doesn't say anything about the speed at which the said range is achieved.

Range of Delhi, Kolkata & Vizag classes are comparable to Arleigh Burke class destroyers.

Delhi, kolkata and vizag destroyers have a range of 7200km to 7400km. The arleigh burke has over 8000km...

 

[Tornado23]

@Huffal

The ship has a standard range of about 3,800 nautical miles—7,037 kilometers–at a speed of 18 knots

China Launches New Type 054A Guided-Missile Stealth Frigate

The People’s Liberation Army Navy’s (PLAN) latest guided-missile frigate was launched on December 16.

thediplomat.com

Comparable to Talwar class frigates.

'and a maximum un-refueled radius is 12,000 kilometers or 8,000 miles.'

 

[MH.Yang]

@Huffal

The ship has a standard range of about 3,800 nautical miles—7,037 kilometers–at a speed of 18 knots

China Launches New Type 054A Guided-Missile Stealth Frigate

The People’s Liberation Army Navy’s (PLAN) latest guided-missile frigate was launched on December 16.

thediplomat.com

Comparable to Talwar class frigates.

054A is an ocean frigate and 056 is an offshore frigate. The max-range of 054A is 8000 nautical miles (when speed 15 knots). Only four 054A (warship 529, warship 530, warship 568 and warship 570) have a max-range of 4000 nautical miles. But China has launched 40+ 054A ships, and the total number is expected to exceed 50.

The Chinese are not fools. We are willing to make so many 054A, of course, because it is stable, reliable and cost-effective.

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