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India rebuilding sub fleet amid China threat
SAM Staff, August 6, 2017
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The INS Kalvari in Mumbai in April 2015. After years of delays, the Scorpene-class submarine will be commissioned later this month.PHOTO: REUTERS
After years of delay, India’s navy is preparing to take delivery of one of the world’s stealthiest and most deadly fighting tools: the INS Kalvari, an attack submarine named after a deep-sea tiger shark.

The commissioning later this month of the Scorpene-class submarine is a milestone in India’s effort to rebuild its badly depleted underwater fighting force, and the first of six on order.

It also comes as China’s military expands its fleet to nearly 60 submarines – compared with India’s 15
– and increases its forays into the Indian Ocean in what New Delhi strategists see as a national security challenge.

A Chinese Yuan-class diesel-powered submarine entered the Indian Ocean in May and is still lurking, according to an Indian naval officer who asked not to be identified, citing policy.

It is an unwelcome reminder of China’s rapidly expanding naval strength at a time when Indian and Chinese soldiers are engaged in a border stand-off.

The official opening last month of China’s first naval base in Djibouti at the western end of the Indian Ocean, recent submarine sales to Pakistan and Bangladesh, and the visit last year of a Chinese nuclear- powered submarine to Karachi have also exposed how unprepared India’s navy is to meet underwater challenges.

Still, analysts say it will be years before China can pose a credible threat to India in the Indian Ocean.

“Simple geography gives India a huge strategic advantage in the Indian Ocean,” said Mr David Brewster, a senior research fellow with the National Security College at the Australian National University in Canberra.

China’s navy needs to enter the Indian Ocean through narrow choke points like the Malacca Strait that runs between Indonesia and Malaysia.

“And although China has been sending in submarines, you have to understand they are probably decades away from being able to seriously challenge India there, especially while the United States is present,” Mr Brewster added.

In the meantime, India is slowly upgrading its underwater fleet. To deter both China and Pakistan, planners reckon that the fleet needs at least 18-diesel, six nuclear and four nuclear-armed submarines.

The INS Kalvari is the first of six French-made Scorpene submarines on order in a 236-billion rupee project awarded in 2005 to the state-owned defence shipyard Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders and France’s Naval Group, formerly known as DCNS Group.

http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/08/06/india-rebuilding-sub-fleet-amid-china-threat/
 
India and other allies will find it hard to match or outnumber China individually in terms of strength and budget... but combining their forces can do wonders in a short spce of time!
 
India and other allies will find it hard to match or outnumber China individually in terms of strength and budget... but combining their forces can do wonders in a short spce of time!
still won't be easy as China have strong allies too. Russia and Pakistan along with north Korea. all 3 have too sub fleets and are expanding them too.
 
still won't be easy as China have strong allies too. Russia and Pakistan along with north Korea. all 3 have too sub fleets and are expanding them too.
See Indians are a reactive bunch, they do things as a reaction to China, pretty obsessed bunch of idiots. Btw, the purpose of the fleet is not to invade India, it's to deter India. Quid pro quo.
 
Ay man they are NOW inducted one sub they chose to buy from France in 2005 without torpedoes, and AIP not to mention that data leek.

Pak navy will have a fleet of over 11 AIP subs.
 
Ay man they are NOW inducted one sub they chose to buy from France in 2005 without torpedoes, and AIP not to mention that data leek.

Pak navy will have a fleet of over 11 AIP subs.
All are taken care of 12 years later ;)
 
Baba hongwu ki jai. BTW Chinese subs noise can be heard from observation units in Outer Space.
What bout Indian subs? OOO wait they have no nuclear subs, only one 'under testing' subpar underpowered Arihant. :rofl:
 
Ay man they are NOW inducted one sub they chose to buy from France in 2005 without torpedoes, and AIP not to mention that data leek.

Pak navy will have a fleet of over
What bout Indian subs? OOO wait they have no nuclear subs, only one 'under testing' subpar underpowered Arihant. :rofl:

First tell me can DF21 be used against subs? If it can then Indian subs need to worry otherwise Chinese subs are just like RC toys.
 
First tell me can DF21 be used against subs? If it can then Indian subs need to worry otherwise Chinese subs are just like RC toys.
You don't use ballistic missiles on subs, you use torpedoes genius. :rofl:. I am talking about nuclear subs since these are ones perceived to be noisier compared to American and Russian subs, we have some of the best conventional subs available with AIP, it's even more advanced than your Scorpenes. Btw, that noise report is 10 years old, the current Chinese subs are among the best in the world, I am not bragging, that's according to recent US expert guesstimation.:enjoy:

Yah btw, you can't even make your own indigenous conventional subs right...:rofl:
 
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