India plotted to 'Invade Bangladesh' in 1975.

[kurup]

Trust me man, you would have LOVED the results. Alas, no such luck now. But who knows, someday maybe.

Maybe you can try your luck after we install our new dalal regime after the next election .

 

[Aka123]

Why to close the thread? its not about Indian rape stories.

1. India did not attack because

A.
On 8 November, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger told the U.S. ambassador in New Delhi to meet with External Affairs Minister Y.B. Chavan or Foreign Secretary Kewal Singh to seek a high-level Indian assessment of the situation in Bangladesh and convey the message that the United States supported an independent Bangladesh.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...d-invade-bangladesh-1975-a.html#ixzz2bBDflj1y


B. Indira's emergency was creating more troubles

C. You bharotis failed to stop anti-India sentiments in minds of Bangladeshis despite your 71 support.

Not really!! But it's Conspiracy theory coming out from the mind. So not worth discussing. The link that's posted is not a credible source at all. So No, it's not a matter of discussion as there's nothing to discuss in conspiracy theories. Try to accept the reality. Life is not about running behind unreal times!

 

[Md Akmal]

Akmal Bhai, I've talked to a few people from those times, some of them belonged to the Armed Forces & they've opined that the concept of the 'Defense of the East Lies in the West' wasn't a policy based on some absurd notion of West-Pakistanis thinking that the Bengalis were an inferior race belonging to an inferior land & were they destroyed by India - It would be alright ! But rather that it was a policy formulated on primarily 3 considerations :

(i) the Pakistan Armed Forces was much less than the Indian Armed Forces even in those times but was needed to defend an enormous amount of territory that was separated from each other by perhaps a 1000 miles & so some selective deployment was something that must be done otherwise no area would be protected without sacrificing some strength in other areas.

(ii) it was determined that any flash points between India & Pakistan in a future conflict would be either across the LOC (as we later called it) in Kashmir, on Upper Punjab whilst tank battles would be fought in Southern Punjab & Sindh - Exactly how its been postulated to be even now !

East Pakistan owing to its terrain was considered unsuitable for any tank battle to be fought there.

(iii) Most of India's Armed Forces were concentrated on her Western Front (West-Pakistan) & not that many on the Eastern Front (East-Pakistan) therefore it was determined that any future conflict will involve an escalation on the Western Front !

@ From the very begining the Bengalise were neglected in the defence force of Pakistan. Well during the time of Jinnah some Bengali recruitment started but after his death it stopped. From the very beggining Ayub Khan had a very negative attitude about Bengalise even when he was a General Officer commanding in Dacca in 1948.

@ The first and the only Tank Battalion was raised in East Pakistan in 1969 at Rangpur. And through out the war of 1971 it was one Battalion. Recruitment of Bengali soldier started at a tremendous rate after 1965 war. It increased more when Yahya became Chief of Staff. By the way Yahya also served in East Pakistan as GOC before 1965 war. In think, in 1965 Pakistan had 5 Division in Western Sector and only one Division in Eastern Sector.

@ Whatever may be case Pakistan had to pay for their wrong planning. We could not achieve anything by staying together with united Pakistan. Whatever economic development took place in 24 years all gone in vain. Only thing remaining, some of us with many others still remained anti-India without any envil ?????

@ I donnot agree with you that our territory is unsuitable for Tank battle. Tank Battle took place in Helli, Jessore and Rangpur with the Indian Army in 1971. India also brought lot of tank. And presently we also have lot of tanks with all most all Divisions. In 1971 India also used amphibious tank.

 

[Kesang]

ladies and gentleman...i present you an awami league dgfi.....good ol' confusing statements with objective of confusing the readers.

 

[notsuperstitious]

@ In 1965, the East Pakistan had probably 4 x Brigrade, they were deplopyed as follows :

1. ! x Brigade at Rangpur Area covering whole of Rajshahi Division.
2. ! x Brigade at Jessore Area covering Khulna Division.
3. 1 x Brigade at Dacca covering Mymensingh, Tangail and Dacca itself.
4. 1 x Brigade at Commilla covering Sylhet and Chittagong.

Besides during that times there were huge numbers of Mujahids and Answeres were recruited. Pakistan Eastern Air Force had only squdron of Sabre Jet. It was true that Pakistan high command neglected the security of East Pakistan. Infact their policy was that the "Security of East Pakistan lies on the Western Sector". They gave more importance in the West than East.

@ But still I will say India never dared to attack in Eastern Sector rather they did not had that capability to fight in two sectors ??? Comparatively Indian army was inferior than Pakistan Army in those days.

If you think the benefits of attacking east Pakistan in 1965 outweighed not attacking east Pakistan, then have a look at the present map and your flags you again. And before tell me most of the fighting and sacrifice was actually done by East Pakistanis, think again and admire the brilliance.

 

[monitor]

Why this revealed 35 years latter ? any one could revealed it earlier . to me why they did think about but didn't was two one there were internal disturbance and two they knew their balls .

 

[xTra]

Thank God, India didn't attack Bangladesh, otherwise we all have been Bangladeshi today.

 

[utraash]

Id thread is true than india must correct its mistake by attacking now ....... N thread story in Pdf after beating BD would be India Actually attacked BD n then we discuss who calls who .... who dd what....
This is totally rubbish India even today cant save it soldiers due to impotency of our gov then forget in1975......

 

[Skies]

Thank God, India didn't attack Bangladesh, otherwise we all have been Bangladeshi today.

But you are Bharatii today, it means demotion for you, lol

 

[sidr]

Comparatively Indian army was inferior than Pakistan Army in those days


So who saved your ARSES in 1971??

We saved ourselves,india just helped us.
show up late and take all the credits,that's india

 

[Md Akmal]

Is that a joke or what?In 1971?

@ I was talking about the 1965 war. During that period Pakistan Army was in better position. Reasons are given below:

1. Comparatively Pakistan Army were well motivated.
2. India had to fight a war with China and was defeated hence their morale was low.
3. Pakistan Army was well trained by the NATO and their armament and equipment were re-organized in line with Western countries.
4. Pakistan had a Defence Pact with USA.
5. Pakistan had a Defence Pact with Australia and she received lot of military and Economic aid.
6. Pakistan was the member of CENTO.
7. Pakistan was the member of SEATO.
8. Pakistan had a good military undewrstanding with Iran and Indonesia.
9. By this times Pakistan had already made a road link with China via Karakoram High ways.

On the other hand Indian Army was still in line with the British colonial lines. It was said that at that time the fire power of one Pakistani Battalion is equevalent to three Battalion.

 

[third eye]

@ I was talking about the 1965 war. During that period Pakistan Army was in better position. Reasons are given below:

1. Comparatively Pakistan Army were well motivated.
2. India had to fight a war with China and was defeated hence their morale was low.
3. Pakistan Army was well trained by the NATO and their armament and equipment were re-organized in line with Western countries.
4. Pakistan had a Defence Pact with USA.
5. Pakistan had a Defence Pact with Australia and she received lot of military and Economic aid.
6. Pakistan was the member of CENTO.
7. Pakistan was the member of SEATO.
8. Pakistan had a good military undewrstanding with Iran and Indonesia.
9. By this times Pakistan had already made a road link with China via Karakoram High ways.

On the other hand Indian Army was still in line with the British colonial lines. It was said that at that time the fire power of one Pakistani Battalion is equevalent to three Battalion.

Did any of the points listed from 3to 9 above help Pakistan achieve what it wanted to in Op Gibraltar ?

On the highlighted part above -- When will BD posters stop this tongue in the cheek manner of attempting to make a point.
" It was said' - said by whom ? Can we have a link to this ? What super special weapons id a Pak Infantry Battallion have that gave it 3 time the fire power of an IA one ?

 

[Md Akmal]

Did any of the points listed from 3to 9 above help Pakistan achieve what it wanted to in Op Gibraltar ?

On the highlighted part above -- When will BD posters stop this tongue in the cheek manner of attempting to make a point.
" It was said' - said by whom ? Can we have a link to this ? What super special weapons id a Pak Infantry Battallion have that gave it 3 time the fire power of an IA one ?

@ " Operation Gibraltar " was hurriedly planned by the immatured politician Z A Butto. During those days Butto had an tremendous influence on General Ayub. Bhutto had a close link with China for which Ayub was dependant on him.

@ In those days there were an accute shortage of RR and MG 's in the Indian Infantry Battalion. At that time Pakistani Battalion had 2 x RR, 2xMG's in each Company where as Indian had only one. Besides the Pakistani Division had one Division Support Battalion which India did not had. All these information are there in the Military books written by Indian Generals itself. So, you got the point. At present I cannot remember the name of the books but some points are there in "Inside Raw" written by Ashook Raina".

@ Look, my dear friend, India got her Army intact from the British so their organization were still in line with Second World War. India also did not pay that importance to their army due to the policy of Nehru. Nehru always believed in Non-aligned Movement. On the order hand Pakistan received nothing and quickly re-organized their Army. Pakistan got lot of Armament from the Korean war of 1952-54. Since Indian army was so big so it was difficult to re-organize the army so quickly. You just cannot throw the old equipments in a day !!!!

@ Definitely it helped Pakistan to a great extend but the problem was India was not a Communist country. There was a clause in CENTO and SEATO that if any of the member countries is been attacked by comuinist country only then they will come to defend. About the defence pact with America, Pakistan thought that America will help them if India attacks Pakistan, on the other hand in those days America needs some friendly country in South Asia for logistical support to Vietnam and also to contain the spread of Socialism or Communism.

@ Indonesia helped Pakistan in 1965 War. I heard that some of the American origin Fighter Aircraft joint the war in favour of Pakistan. Many Iranian military nurses and airhostages came to help Pakistan.

 

[474474]

Now that I think about it, Bdesh is much stronger independent, so bad for India. So 71 was a win win for us.

 

[Md Akmal]

Now that I think about it, Bdesh is much stronger independent, so bad for India. So 71 was a win win for us.

@ Definitely we are now much much more stronger than before. We had been joining in the UN forces since 1987 it is almost now 26 years old. We have bought lot of armaments and equipments as per UN requirement. But India has joined the UN force on that day. Presently we are the highest UN Peace keeper contributor.

@ Look, India had been sponsering the "Chakma Shanti Bahini" since 1974 in Chittagong Hill Tracts but our military had fought back.

@ India had been helping Kader Siddique and his terrorist force since 1975 once Sk Mujib was killed. Our army fought back bravely and their mission was failed. and so on------