India, Pakistan may stumble into large-scale war, warns US intel report

[Chhatrapati]

2008 case and character never unmasked. India refused to provide access to Kasab, requested by Pakistan many times. The case never reached its logical end. No one supports the death of innocent civilians in such a type of stand-off.

The case was already unmasked, the investigation was completed both in India and the US, culprits arrested, punishments given. You never requested access through proper channels, you flip-flopped with the place of origin of Kasab. What's the update on your side of the case? There is also a Mumbai attack case in your country too.

That was thanks to US pressure to force a withdrawal .. no thanks to your ineffectual infantry or airforce

We didn't run to the US for a solution. Not only that, you disowned them in the middle of the operation and they got bombed into smithereens. Either way, your blunders helped us turn you into the aggressor. Forever grateful for that.

 

[KaiserX]

Highly doubt it. Small skirmishes similar to Feb 2019 yes are likely, but it is very unlikely to escalate beyond that... reason being is simple. The elite in both nations benefit immensely from the status quo.

Our politicans/general continue to receive votes and immense benefits to the amount of Billions and the same thing on the Indian side. Unfortunately buying votes is very easy in south asia by stroking nationalism here and there.

TBH the best best Chance Pakistan had to resolve the Kashmir dispute to its favor (after 1962 China-india war) was Last year 2020 after the COVID pandemic struck. Reason being during this time India was on a complete strict lockdown in a panic mode, their economy contracted -25%, the world world especially the US under Trump was focused on domestic issues, India was also preoccupied by Chinese incursions.

March 2020- September 2020 was a golden period for Pakistani forces to create. a major escalation because the world would have done nothing and India would have been caught by complete surprise. Instead our Generals were busy with God knows what and im afraid such a golden moment wont ever come again.

 

[khail007]

There will be no war as long as Bajwa is army chief and IK is PM.

How could you say that Feb 27/2019 happened while PM was IK and COAS was Bajwa?
Are you aware, who was the PM & COAS while the 'Atlantique Incident' happened?

 

[Dalit]

I want the Americans to feel the heat knowing that Pakistan can severely dent its poodle Hindustan. The US must live with this insecurity. It keeps things in equilibrium.

We are not stupid. The recent overtures towards Pakistan are initiated by the US establishment. The US has come to the realization that China can only be poked if Pakistan is taken out of Chinese sphere. That won't happen obviously. A two war front against India is something the US must live with.

 

[nahtanbob]

Highly doubt it. Small skirmishes similar to Feb 2019 yes are likely, but it is very unlikely to escalate beyond that... reason being is simple. The elite in both nations benefit immensely from the status quo.

Our politicans/general continue to receive votes and immense benefits to the amount of Billions and the same thing on the Indian side. Unfortunately buying votes is very easy in south asia by stroking nationalism here and there.

TBH the best best Chance Pakistan had to resolve the Kashmir dispute to its favor (after 1962 China-india war) was Last year 2020 after the COVID pandemic struck. Reason being during this time India was on a complete strict lockdown in a panic mode, their economy contracted -25%, the world world especially the US under Trump was focused on domestic issues, India was also preoccupied by Chinese incursions.

March 2020- September 2020 was a golden period for Pakistani forces to create. a major escalation because the world would have done nothing and India would have been caught by complete surprise. Instead our Generals were busy with God knows what and im afraid such a golden moment wont ever come again.

wars are expensive. all out conventional conflict along the border costs $1 billion per day. Pakistan cannot afford it. India will rather spend money on other things

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

wars are expensive. all out conventional conflict along the border costs $1 billion per day. Pakistan cannot afford it. India will rather spend money on other things

Unfortunately india can afford NOTHING which is why nesrly 40% of the ENTIRE earth's most severely malnourished and extreme poor are indian and why over 732 million indians defecate in the open:

More than 732 million Indians don’t have access to toilets: Report

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A third of the world’s poor live in India, says UN

South Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa are home to the majority of the extremely poor people in the world, states this year's Millennium Development Goal report.Ac

www.downtoearth.org.in

India houses 24% of world's malnourished; 30% of stunted children under 5

India has shown improvement in reducing child stunting but with 46.6 million stunted children, the country is home to over 30.9% of all stunted children under five--the highest in the world

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Half of the world’s poor live in just 5 countries

Of the world’s 736 million extreme poor in 2015, 368 million—half of the total—lived in just 5 countries. The 5 countries with the highest number of extreme poor are (in descending order): India, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, and Bangladesh.

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India accused of poverty 'smokescreen'

India has been accused of creating a "smokescreen" to conceal the true scale of poverty in the country after the government claimed to have lifted more than 50 million people above the threshold in the last five years.

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Why India remains malnourished

Two-and-a-half-year-old Rabina weighs 6.5 kg. A healthy child of her age should weigh at least 8 kg. But Rabina could not escape the curse of being born in Shiv

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India has one third of world's poorest, says World Bank

One in three of the world's poorest people are living in India, the world's second-fastest growing economy, according to a new study by the World Bank.

www.telegraph.co.uk

The case was already unmasked, the investigation was completed both in India and the US, culprits arrested, punishments given. You never requested access through proper channels, you flip-flopped with the place of origin of Kasab. What's the update on your side of the case? There is also a Mumbai attack case in your country too.

We didn't run to the US for a solution. Not only that, you disowned them in the middle of the operation and they got bombed into smithereens. Either way, your blunders helped us turn you into the aggressor. Forever grateful for that.

Any evidence?

 

[PradoTLC]

wars are expensive. all out conventional conflict along the border costs $1 billion per day. Pakistan cannot afford it. India will rather spend money on other things

Neither can india ... that is why they ran to have a cease fire agreement

 

[nahtanbob]

Neither can india ... that is why they ran to have a cease fire agreement

India has a much larger budget.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

US intel : Pakistan will break up in YE 2014

Pak Intel: Does one actually need intelligence to be in American Intelligence ?



2019: Wacked by PAF
2020 : Wacked by PLA

yup that's loss of face twice..

2021: whacked by Maoists.

2022: ??

 

[xyxmt]

How does the US know?
unless they are working on it

You must fight China!!
ok ok then at least fight Pakistan?
ok ok ok then at least fight Nipal?
ok ok ok ok how about Bhutan?

 

[Baibars_1260]

The US intelligence assessment is entirely correct . It has been correct before.
Pakistan is facing an existential threat. The issue is not Kashmir or terrorism. The issue is the existence of Pakistan and the existence of Muslims in the sub-continent.
Any fascist regime first attacks its own minorities, and then turns on neighboring countries.
The current fascist Hindutva behemoth is eying an invasion and occupation of Pakistan and tye annihilation of its people. But it is not just Pakistan but beyond. India is population packed pressure cooker waiting to explode. A population of a billion and half needs more land, and there is standing room only in India.

After Pakistan Iran is next and then it is Saudi Arabia. Anti-Iranian and anti Saudi media coverage is common now in India. India is claiming the Kaaba in Mecca as Hindu Temple and the Saudis are shaking in their boots, too petrified even to protest ( Link ).

See below.

Kaaba Hindu Temple Stolen By Muslims: Anti-Vedic Puja of Shiv Ling in Islam - HariBhakt | History, Facts, Awareness of Hindu Dharma

We start with a simple explanation, about ritual which is practiced by Indians and many Vedic followers the world over - Hindus, Jains, Buddhists, even Sikhs practice most of these rituals: Respecting Idol Paying obeisance to the structure around Idol Circumambulating around the structure where...

haribhakt.com

This is a final conflict. Unfortunately Pakistan is in the frontline.
We have a choice of submitting to slavery or die with honor.
Does it really matter if our carpets in our house in Gulberg need to be changed?



What We Pakistanis have the following optiins

 

[nahtanbob]

The US intelligence assessment is entirely correct . It has been correct before.
Pakistan is facing an existential threat. The issue is not Kashmir or terrorism. The issue is the existence of Pakistan and the existence of Muslims in the sub-continent.
Any fascist regime first attacks its own minorities, and then turns on neighboring countries.
The current fascist Hindutva behemoth is eying an invasion and occupation of Pakistan and tye annihilation of its people. But it is not just Pakistan but beyond. India is population packed pressure cooker waiting to explode. A population of a billion and half needs more land, and there is standing room only in India.

After Pakistan Iran is next and then it is Saudi Arabia. Anti-Iranian and anti Saudi media coverage is common now in India. India is claiming the Kaaba in Mecca as Hindu Temple and the Saudis are shaking in their boots, too petrified even to protest ( Link ).

See below.

Kaaba Hindu Temple Stolen By Muslims: Anti-Vedic Puja of Shiv Ling in Islam - HariBhakt | History, Facts, Awareness of Hindu Dharma

We start with a simple explanation, about ritual which is practiced by Indians and many Vedic followers the world over - Hindus, Jains, Buddhists, even Sikhs practice most of these rituals: Respecting Idol Paying obeisance to the structure around Idol Circumambulating around the structure where...

haribhakt.com

This is a final conflict. Unfortunately Pakistan is in the frontline.
We have a choice of submitting to slavery or die with honor.
Does it really matter if our carpets in our house in Gulberg need to be changed?



What We Pakistanis have the following optiins

with nukes I doubt you are going to a war

 

[khansaheeb]

I guess the reporter was asked to overstate the threat presented in the Indian subcontinent and obviously paint the worst case scenario in the report.
I’m sure Washington indulges in similar reports across regions (greater importance given to Western Europe for obvious reasons).
Great article though!!

Nonsensical cheap reporting. Yes US can go to war with Russia, US can go to war with China, US can go to war with India, Russia can go to war with UK, China can go to war with Japan etc etc. There is a big big difference between likely to happen and highly unlikely to happen, It is highly unlikely that India will go to war with Pakistan unless it wants to suffer catastrophic consequences that will destroy India as a state. That goes for any other fantasizing nation on the planet.

 

[Patriot forever]

There will be no war as long as Bajwa is army chief and IK is PM.

Were are you confusing a cake fight when modi visited Nawaz grand daughter wedding with an actual war?

These last 2 years Pakistan and India have come closer to war than in the past decade put together.

Pakistan does not want war and will purse peace if opportunity arises, but it will respond aggressively to any form of intimidation that's the policy of this government.

 

[PradoTLC]

India also has a far advanced air force and navy along with ICBMs and IRBMs which can defeat Pakistan.

An Air Force that keeping getting shot down in war time ... and crashes it's self to death during peace time.

Pakistan will be ripped into pieces if a full scale war occurs between India and Pakistan.

and what do you think Pakistan will fire in return?..