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India may take a third Russian nuclear attack submarine on lease


NEW DELHI, July 3: India has expressed interest in leasing another nuclear attack submarine from Russia to supplement the Akula class hunter-killer that was inducted last year. The two sides are now ready to start negotiations on the project, according to the head of the top Russian design bureau for nuclear submarines.

Tentatively christened INS Chakra III, the new submarine will be a variant of the Akula class of stealthy nuclear-powered submarines that are capable of spending months under water.

It is likely to be equipped with more lethal weaponry, including a vertically launched Brahmos missile system.

If the project goes through, this will be the third Russian nuclear submarine to be operated by India. The first was the original INS Chakra that was taken on a three-year lease in 1988. The second was inducted last year after a four-year delay. It too has been named the INS Chakra.

Vladimir Dorofeev, head of the Malachite Design Bureau, which is the main centre for nuclear attack submarines in Russia, has said that the negotiations that India and Russia did during the 2012 lease of the Chakra will help in a smooth process for the acquisition of the new submarine.

India has expressed an interest in acquiring the submarine and both the Russian design bureau and the shipyard that will construct it are ready for negotiations, The Indian Express quoted him today as saying in St Petersburg.

The submarine is likely to be reconstructed round the hull of the Iribis, a Russian Akula class submarine that was never completed as funds ran dry after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Dorofeev said that the new submarine could also benefit from the design efforts that Russia had put in its latest class of Yasen nuclear-powered attack submarines.

"The fourth generation of Yasen class submarine has been tested successfully, including the firing of a cruise missile from the submerged vessel. We can use that experience for the second Indian submarine. The launch was done using a new vertical launch system that can be used for the next submarine," Dorofeev said.

The universal launch system that has been tested can launch several types of missiles from a submerged vessel and can carry four to five missiles per salvo. However, the design bureau head refused to go into details of the project, saying that technical requirements for the next submarine will be discussed after India comes up with a set of technical requirements.

"If a political decision is taken then we as an industry should have no difficulty in delivering what is agreed to," he said. He expressed confidence that the matter will be discussed in future talks between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh, who meet once a year for top level confabulations.

He, however, refused to comment on Russian assistance for the indigenous INS Arihant class of submarines that India is constructing in Vizag (Andhra Pradesh). Joint cooperation or technology sharing would depend on political negotiations between the two nations, he said.

In April 2012, the Eastern Fleet that is tasked with patrolling some of the most sensitive waters around India, formally inducted the INS Chakra, a stealthy nuclear-powered submarine acquired from Russia on a 10-year lease.

The Akula II class submarine — renowned as one of the stealthiest in the world is an attack submarine — is nuclear-powered but does not carry nuclear missiles on board.

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In my opinion India should buy instead of leasing this Nuclear Submarine.
 
In my opinion India should buy instead of leasing this Nuclear Submarine.

nuclear subs can't be bought,but only leased to another country.actually we gave money to built them,we leased them for 10 years and when needed,we'll extend the lease.so,this is actually buying but we can't show that on paper..Its just like marrying(on paper,not actually) an american citizen to get the visa,if you know what I mean.. ;)

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India's deal for 2 akulas with Russian is no bluff at all.there were certain uncertainties that Russia will ever deliver 2nd akula to India.but looks like all is going well with this project and soon we'll see another akula in Indian color.
 
nuclear subs can't be bought,but only leased to another country.actually we gave money to built them,we leased them for 10 years and when needed,we'll extend the lease.so,this is actually buying but we can't show that on paper..Its just like marrying(on paper,not actually) an american citizen to get the visa,if you know what I mean.. ;)

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India's deal for 2 akulas with Russian is no bluff at all.there were certain uncertainties that Russia will ever deliver 2nd akula to India.but looks like all is going well with this project and soon we'll see another akula in Indian color.

There is no ban on nuclear power propelled vessels but nobody willing to sale it because it is very costly & sensitive technology.
One hurdle is we can't equipped them with nuclear missiles thus why India lease Russian submarine to learn to build their own SSN . Russia offers Akula II to lease for 10 years & after option to buy it.
 
There is no ban on nuclear power propelled vessels but nobody willing to sale it because it is very costly & sensitive technology.
One hurdle is we can't equipped them with nuclear missiles thus why India lease Russian submarine to learn to build their own SSN . Russia offers Akula II to lease for 10 years & after option to buy it.

nope..there is no option of buying..and Akula is a SSN.we're building our own SSBNs to deploy our sea based missiles..
 
nope..there is no option of buying..and Akula is a SSN.we're building our own SSBNs to deploy our sea based missiles..

Three hundred Indian Navy personnel are being trained in Russia for the operation of the Akula II submarine Nerpa. India has finalized a deal with Russia, in which at the end of the lease of these submarines, it has an option to buy them. The submarine will be named INS Chakra as was the previous India-leased Soviet Charlie-I SSGN.[25] INS Chakra was officially inducted into the Indian Navy on April 4, 2012.[26][27]

Whereas the Russian Navy's Akula-II could be equipped with 28 nuclear-capable cruise missiles with a striking range of 3,000 km (1,620 nmi; 1,864 mi), the Indian version was reportedly expected to be armed with the 300 km (162 nmi; 186 mi)-range 3M-54 Klub nuclear-capable missiles.[28] Missiles with ranges greater than 300 km (162 nmi; 186 mi) cannot be exported due to arms control restrictions, since Russia is a signatory to the MTCR treaty

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AFAIK there is an option for India to buy the subs after the 10 year lease expires which will almost certainly be taken up so effectively the subs are bought by the IN .

This point I mentions already in my previous post.
 
India would need both SSBNs and SSNs and as we are going ahead with Arihant class SSBNs, India may buy these 2 Akulas or atleast 1 of them.
PS: Any idea about khooni class SSNs. Was that news for real or just hoax.
 
I feel India should ask Rusks for some help and develop our own SSN/SSGN based on
Akula-II, but of lesser size and lesser tonnage.

Then we can equip it with hypersonic anti-ship BrahMos after 2020.
 
:cheers: sounds like good news to me. akula-II are the best subs.
 
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