India Ignoring Islamic Countries

[justanobserver]

Indonesian rockets

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...tics_and_Space

Pakistan SUPARCO (4 sats including 1 spy sat deployed, 1 going up)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_a...rch_Commission

Iranian Simorgh SLV (Rocket) and satellites (constructed as well as ~ 14 under construction)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian...y#Satellites_2

Malaysia Space Agency - Muslims in space project with Russian collaboration and satellites

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...asawan_program

Turkish civilian and mil sat projects

The Space Review: Turkey's military satellite program: a model for emerging regional powers
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/ne...next-year.html

GOKTURK satellite system

http://gaza-space.blogspot.com/2009/...sance-and.html

Actually none of the countries in your list have launched a satellite with their own SLVs.

However we launched one of Turkey's satellites and are collaborating with the Indonesians wrt SLVs

 

[black_magic pk]

@Islamic countries: Ctrl+H the word 'Kashmir' in the OIC charter with 'blank spaces' and then we will talk business.

we pakistanis dont need any reset button either , only pakistan should have good relations with them, hindoo stanis should also be kicked from arabic lands..

 

[Coltsfan]

@Techlahore,

Providing this disclaimer since you have a propensity to delete posts as troll

Just replying to your claim about suparco earlier in thread.

Here is what I got from History section of SUPARCOsite

BADR-1 satellite was launched on 16 July 1990, from a Chinese launcher, the Long March 2E (LM-2E).

Pakistan's second satellite BADR-B was launched on 10 Dec 2001 at 9:15 a.m from Baikonour Cosmodrome, Kazakistan.

According to your own space agency, Pakistan hasn't launched a single satellite

 

[desioptimist]

Indian govt (whether UPA or NDA) are doing a good balancing job every where, i.e. US vs Russia, Shia Iran vs Sunni Arabs, Israel vs its neighbors.

I don't think India can ignore any country which is nearby, and strategically linked to us.

Furthermore, islamic countries are not a block, and nobody treats them as such.
Nobody will deny that India gives importance to its relation with Iran and soudis. India gives importance to pakistan too.

 

[KS]

You went off into orgy territory... am I giving you examples of personal indiscretions of Indian politicians? I believe there are plenty of videos on Youtube of the aforementioned. But why reduce the discussion to such a petty level?

I admit that 'that' particular word should'nt have been used.But the point implied stands.

Good. I just gave you my last response then.

Being an argumentative type though I really want to reply to you last post --- I am restraining because I dont find it worthwile.The only true blocs in this world are EU,ASEAN and to some extent MERCUSOR. OIC is in the same league as SAARC.

You are welcome to discuss this in the Wikleaks thread. You can also discuss past "leaks" such as the Indian PM being called highly inappropriate swear words by the American President and so on in that thread.

I guess you know that those swear words were borne rather out of frustration of being repeatedly snubbed by a 'lady' and I consider it as a feather on the cap of that brave lady. I'd rather prefer those swear words than being molly-coddled and then being asked to 'Do more'.

 

[KS]

Taken as a "bloc" the OIC is powerful indeed, especially in strategic terms.

I actually want China to join the OIC, as an observer at least. However, I think the unrest in Xinjiang could cause problems for us regarding the OIC...

Agreed --- but the important question is "Are they united enough to be taken as a bloc ?" . EU can be taken as a bloc for they have a visa-less travel,united currency,a single constitution etc. Does OIC have any of these ?

IMHO ASEAN is far more a bloc than OIC.

 

[luckyyy]

if there be any deteriation relation with Islamic Countries , the interference in india's internal matters on kashmir by OIC is the main couse...

but resently on the similler line the issues of unrest in Xinjiang has spite the OIC...
pakistan will like to upheld the kashmir issue in IOC but at the same time will be blocking the issue of Xinjiang...
saudi arabis will like to kept out both kashmir and Xinjiang..
whereas turky and iran like to bring both issue on same lavels...

 

[LaBong]

Indian isn't ignoring Islamic countries.

^That's actually a fact, not an opinion.

 

[KS]

That's just friggin' hilarious. Let's see. What should I believe? Karthik on the internet or India's diplomatic actions over the past few decades? India's requests to the OIC to allow it to join first as a member, and when that was thrown out as a possibility, at least as an observer. Hmm. I think I'll go with decades of Indian diplomacy on the ground and ignore this macho "bigger fish to fry" rhetoric.

Sorry for going back on my word --- but since this one is a political one I ll explain this.

As an Indian who had voted in about 4 elections and one who follows the Indian political tamasha a bit closely, I can assure neither IG (in whose tenure the request to join OIC was mooted) nor any of the Leaders are interested in OIC because its such a influential org and wields enormous influence,but rather because of the single most important determining factor - the Muslim Votebank - in three of India's most populous states - UP,Bihar and Andhra all of which have a significant Muslim voteshare.

If you think its not the reason,well I cant help you.Not everything is what it seems.This will be just a method to consolidate the Muslim votes.

And of course,its upto you to believe or not -- we indeed have a bigger fish to fry.

 

[indushek]

Its so hilarious seeing all the replies in this thread and the supreme effort by Techlahore to prove that we Indians are ignoring Islamic Nations or should i say actually hate them and look down upon them.

First of all people at the South Block are not the ones replying here so no harm done, everybody to their own opinions. If we really were ignoring them we wouldn't be meeting most of our energy demands (nearly 70 to 80% i guess) from them as they would have ostracized us.

The second and most funniest is that TechLahore is supporting OIC countries so much that he is acting as their representative however if he could just visit the wikileaks latest thread here on PDF he can see the Pakistani reactions to them and the so called brotherhood of these countries which he refers to as a block.

Particularly the bonhomie between Saudi and Iran and Saudi and Pakistan about which he speaks here so vociferously. If dreams were to come true what could not be achieved in this world!!! so much for dreams.

 

[KS]

we pakistanis dont need any reset button either , only pakistan should have good relations with them, hindoo stanis should also be kicked from arabic lands..

Well why dont you go and start protesting before the Syrian,Moroccan and UAE embassies as all of them have reiterated their unequivocal support to India's UNSC bid.

Also dont forget the KSA embassy as they have requested for India's help for diversifying their economy from a oil based one to a knowledge based one.

I am not mentioning the other GCC countries such as Oman,Yemen which recently held discussion to establish strategic relations with India because it will be too much work for you.

 

[Hafizzz]

According to many of my Indian friends who we've discussed this issue with tangentially, Iran, Saudi Arabia and other muslims countries are of "no importance" to India and India couldn't "care less". It appears its not just forum participants from India that hold this view, but also the Indian Foreign Office.

Very interesting.

Muslim countries around the world should stop selling Oil to India !!!

 

[AMCA]

Muslim countries around the world should stop selling Oil to India !!!

What would Happen To those Countries Who stop the trade from a Buyer of 25 million metric tonnes of Crude Oil??? Anyways, The Only Muslim Country we Ignore Is an Obvious Answer, for the Rest we Maintain Highest of relationship, Saudi Arabia is One Among our Largest trading partner

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Taken as a "bloc" the OIC is powerful indeed, especially in strategic terms.

I actually want China to join the OIC, as an observer at least. However, I think the unrest in Xinjiang could cause problems for us regarding the OIC...

Powerful "can be"

As of now the members have diverging opinions and hence, fragmented leadership.


Thats kind of natural when you have some 57 nations.
Remember China opposed sudden expansion of SCO as it may compromise on the decision making process.

 

[sensenreason]

Muslim countries around the world should stop selling Oil to India !!!

Im sure you are not a businessman,if you were you would know that it will take a brave man to say no to your 3rd largest buyer and one who you charge a little more than others and can kick around a little bit too.

The first and second largest buyers keep a lot of control over you by negotiating hard and playing your competitors against you.