India grounds entire Sukhoi-30 fleet

[Burhan Wani]

If it happens again, there is no guarantee that the pilots would be able to eject succesful again.


Actually, it's precisely because we are fully confident of defending against Pak, with or without MKIs, that we are making that tongue in cheek remark. It's a way of reminding you of the immense disparity of force, to drive home the point that even with the backbone of the fleet grounded, we are still safe and secure against Pak. So it's our security complex showing, not our non existent insecurity complex.


I'll save you some time, so that you don't have to spend a page or two with these innocuous sounding questions before proclaiming your pre established conclusion.

IAF's pilots and maintainance crew are all idiots, that's why even a fine aircraft has crashed. There, happy?

I am qualified Engineer that's why i am curious about it;s failure and i need technical answer . If you can provide me sufficient answer then you are welcome otherwise don't troll

 

[janon]

I am qualified Engineer that's why i am curious about it;s failure and i need technical answer . If you can provide me sufficient answer then you are welcome otherwise don't troll

As the article clearly states, even the IAF does not know the technical reason, and that is precisely why the fleet is grounded.

BTW your signature is highly ironic.

 

[Burhan Wani]

As the article clearly states, even the IAF does not know the technical reason, and that is precisely why the fleet is grounded.

BTW your signature is highly ironic.

Why they don't know about the failue? why they don't complain it's vendor?

 

[Strigon]

Actually, it's precisely because we are fully confident of defending against Pak, with or without MKIs, that we are making that tongue in cheek remark. It's a way of reminding you of the immense disparity of force, to drive home the point that even with the backbone of the fleet grounded, we are still safe and secure against Pak. So it's our security complex showing, not our non existent insecurity complex.

Actually, its really the other way around. Pakistan has not ever hinted of attacking India nor has any gain in it. You are bursting out for no reason, really convincing yourself only of the "Shupa powa" you posses when no one around has even bothered to notice or expressed an interest of attack. Where were your capabilities that you so boast about now during 26/11?

Shove this self-praise up inside, no one admires you here.

 

[janon]

Why they don't know about the failue? why they don't complain it's vendor?

Are you sure you are a qualified engineer?

In any complex machine (and 20 tonne supermanueverable fighters are extremely complex machines), it is not easy to figure out what went wrong. As of now they know that there was no human error and no engine failure. The aircraft doesn't come up to us and say what went wrong - it will have to be figured out after a meticulous enquiry.

Actually, its really the other way around. Pakistan has not ever hinted of attacking India nor has any gain in it. You are bursting out for no reason, really convincing yourself only of the "Shupa powa" you posses when no one around has even bothered to notice or expressed an interest of attack. Where were your capabilities that you so boast about now during 26/11?

The capability to defend ourselves - we have had it since the late 1960s. Nobody is insecure vis-a-vis Pak.

Shove this self-praise up inside, no one admires you here.

Whereas Pakistan is the most admired country in the world?

 

[Strigon]

The capability to defend ourselves - we have had it since the late 1960s. Nobody is insecure vis-a-vis Pak.


Whereas Pakistan is the most admired country in the world?

Yet, for some odd reason you are jumping out of your seat, announcing your bravery and ability to defend yourself when no one has threatened during your period.

I said "here" meaning PDF. I am sure we can find some things world doesn't admire of Indians but I don't really have time to search for it nor the motivation cuz believe it or not, I am not obsessed with India.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Are you sure you are a qualified engineer?

In any complex machine (and 20 tonne supermanueverable fighters are extremely complex machines), it is not easy to figure out what went wrong. As of now they know that there was no human error and no engine failure. The aircraft doesn't come up to us and say what went wrong - it will have to be figured out after a meticulous enquiry.


The capability to defend ourselves - we have had it since the late 1960s. Nobody is insecure vis-a-vis Pak.


Whereas Pakistan is the most admired country in the world?

If any airforce select Fighter jets then they should know about it's technical figures. And to ground entire fleet is not good option.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Where were your capabilities that you so boast about now during 26/11?

So you'd have preferred an all out war?

India showed restraint and maturity on pleas of the international community , but you guys keep prodding away this game of playing with fire is going burn you sooner rather than later (it already is).

 

[Strigon]

So you'd have preferred an all out war?

India showed restraint and maturity on pleas of the international community , but you guys keep prodding away this game of playing with fire is going burn you sooner rather than later (it already is).

Well your friend was telling me how much capable India is with or without MKIs. Please smack some sense into him when I say no one is asking for a fight during India's period.

 

[Abingdonboy]

If any airforce select Fighter jets then they should know about it's technical figures. And to ground entire fleet is not good option.

It's a common practice in modern AFs and actually the wisest thing to do, the USAF have grounded the F-22 and F-35 countless times, the entire Eurofighter Typhoon fleet is grounded about once a year for one reason or another. The IAF is a mature and professional force and know what they are doing. It would be callous to keep flying these birds without knowing exactly what caused this crash to say anything else is incredibly naive and ignorant.

 

[janon]

Yet, for some odd reason you are jumping out of your seat, announcing your bravery and ability to defend yourself when no one has threatened during your period.

Actually I only did so after you accused us of insecurity. I had to point out that it was the opposite sentiment that was motivating our cheeky statements.

 

[Burhan Wani]

It's a common practice in modern AFs and actually the wisest thing to do, the USAF have grounded the F-22 and F-35 countless times, the entire Eurofighter Typhoon fleet is grounded about once a year for one reason or another. The IAF is a mature and professional force and know what they are doing. It would be callous to keep flying these birds without knowing exactly what caused this crash to say anything else is incredibly naive and ignorant.

Ahan. Please tell me if your crew cannot figured out the fault then what will be your immediate step?

 

[janon]

Well your friend was telling me how much capable India is with or without MKIs. Please smack some sense into him when I say no one is asking for a fight during India's period.

Repeat - fully capable of defending every inch of our territory or airspace from Pakistan, with or without MKIs. I don't see why that sounds senseless to you.

 

[Strigon]

Actually I only did so after you accused us of insecurity. I had to point out that it was the opposite sentiment that was motivating our cheeky statements.

Before me even pointing our your insecurities, which are still denying, you had already shown to the whole PDF that you are ready to fight a threat that doesn't exist against an enemy who couldn't care to spare 2 secs for you. Motivate yourself if you want, people are still laughing at you and fellow country men are embarrassed of the useless comments.

Repeat - fully capable of defending every inch of our territory or airspace from Pakistan, with or without MKIs. I don't see why that sounds senseless to you.

Repeat - NO one threatened you during your period.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Ahan. Please tell me if your crew cannot figured out the fault then what will be your immediate step?

A through investigation will be conducted if after that the fault is not found of course the fleet will be restored to active duties and the cause left as "unknown" as has happened with many freak aviation disasters. But let's not preempt anything and see what the IAF is able to uncover.