India far behind China’s combat power

[vivINDIAN]

India is years behind the Chinese military with the Communist neighbour currently outnumbering the country’s combat power by a 3:1 ratio, a defence ministry document has revealed.

India hopes to bridge the gap in the next 15 years by improving its fighting capacity with new stealth jets, aircraft carriers, nuclear-powered submarines, warships and land-based strike formations.

The document, accessed by Hindustan Times, predicts the picture will change by the end of the 14th Plan period (2022-27), with India narrowing the gap in combat power with China to a “desirable ratio” of 1.5:1.

The dynamics of combat power encompass elements such as a military’s firepower, mobility, logistic capability, manpower and sustainability — factors that ultimately determine the outcome of a war.

Strategic affairs expert air vice Marshal Kapil Kak (retd) said the “desirable combat ratio” appeared to be achievable.

Steps taken by India to counter China’s military build-up have led to a marginal improvement in the relative-force ratio, the document shows.

The setting up of two new infantry divisions in 2010 in the northeast has lowered China’s combat advantage to a “2.7:1 ratio”. Odds, however, are still stacked against the army.

“In a land battle, an army can only defend against an attacking force three times its strength,” a former chief said.

The raising of a new mountain strike corps — with 85,000 soldiers — to defend Arunachal Pradesh is expected to further reduce the Chinese military advantage to a ratio of 2.1:1 by end of the 13th Plan Period (2022).

The new strike formation will give the army the capability to mount offensive action into the Tibet Autonomous Region.

Experts warn China is expected to step up efforts to transform its military to retain an edge over India. China’s official defence budget for 2013-14 stands at Rs. 5,94,000 crore, compared to India’s Rs. 2,03,672 crore.

However, China’s actual military spending may be higher, with experts suspecting dramatic under reporting of its defence expenditure.

India far behind China’s combat power - Hindustan Times

 

[Sergi]

Hindustan times thinks China has JF-17

Looks like the pitching for more weapons. Not bad

 

[Assault Rifle]

China does not have 3500 fighter jets in active service.

 

[MrShabi2010]

Thank god you guys finally accepted the fact.

 

[vivINDIAN]

China does not have 3500 fighter jets in active service.

u r right
this is according to wikiList of active Chinese military aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2500+ of which 1600+ are combat aircraft and almost half of them are 3rd gen

 

[Assault Rifle]

I

u r right
this is according to iwikiList of active Chinese military aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2500+ of which 1600+ are combat aircraft

IHS Janes & Flightglobal report that China has 1400-1500 combat aircraft.

This reminds of a 2003 Indian Army report which said China has 5000 fighter jets & 22000 tanks whereas the
same report said Pak had 1000 fighter jets & 5000 tanks.
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Btw India 15 subs incl 1 nuclear & 14 conventional subs.

 

[NP-complete]

China and India follow different military philosophies. This gap stems from that fundamental difference. The militaries from continental europe to china are "clausewitzian" in nature. They seek the destruction of enemy forces as their first and basic objective. Their militaries are build accordingly. Or one can say they are always prepared for a full scale war in which one must first destory the bulk of enemy forces to enforce his will upon him. The british idea is different. Being an island nation they were never a great land power. They didnt fight land wars like big land powers. Pakistan and india inherited british military ideas therefore they are in a bad shape in terms of land warfare.

 

[faithfulguy]

I
IHS Janes & Flightglobal report that China has 1400-1500 combat aircraft.

This reminds of a 2003 Indian Army report which said China has 5000 fighter jets & 22000 tanks whereas the
same report said Pak had 1000 fighter jets & 5000 tanks.
E
Btw India 15 subs incl 1 nuclear & 14 conventional subs.

But your India number include subs under test. Weapons under test should not count. Otherwise, Russia and China can claim that they have 5th generation fighters.

 

[MrShabi2010]

we had accepted a long time ago that we cannot match china but have you accepted that you cannot match india?

No you didn't you guys brag about China is Poor as India and China has Slums like India etc etc. @YourQuestion... Why are you comparing India with Pakistan? Pakistan cannot match India because India twice or thrice the size of Pakistan. Go and compare the country with the size of you own then we will talk

 

[HariPrasad]

They compares Numbers and not the quality.

 

[Janmejay]

No you didn't you guys brag about China is Poor as India and China has Slums like India etc etc. @YourQuestion... Why are you comparing India with Pakistan? Pakistan cannot match India because India twice or thrice the size of Pakistan. Go and compare the country with the size of you own then we will talk

china is also 2 to 3 times the size of india...

 

[faithfulguy]

They compares Numbers and not the quality.

India can get some of the best weapons from the west and Russia.

 

[shree835]

No you didn't you guys brag about China is Poor as India and China has Slums like India etc etc. @YourQuestion... Why are you comparing India with Pakistan? Pakistan cannot match India because India twice or thrice the size of Pakistan. Go and compare the country with the size of you own then we will talk

TU Apni Dekh....We will take care of yourself.

 

[Indischer]

China and India follow different military philosophies. This gap stems from that fundamental difference. The militaries from continental europe to china are "clausewitzian" in nature. They seek the destruction of enemy forces as their first and basic objective. Their militaries are build accordingly. Or one can say they are always prepared for a full scale war in which one must first destory the bulk of enemy forces to enforce his will upon him. The british idea is different. Being an island nation they were never a great land power. They didnt fight land wars like big land powers. Pakistan and india inherited british military ideas therefore they are in a bad shape in terms of land warfare.

Your theory doesn't hold merit as both India and Pakistan field large armies with emphasis on infantry buffeted by armour. The British Navy was the pride of the Crown's Armed Forces and was considered one of the best expeditionary forces ever assembled, but neither Pakistan nor India have a Navy commensurate with their coastline.

India and Pakistan are very much the Continental heavyweights and both also follow a Clausewitzian model. The Himalayas act as a natural barrier between India and China, forcing both adversaries to funnel their forces onto narrow passes on land. This probably is the reason why Indian Army is still OK with a 1:2.5 combat disadvantage.

 

[KRAIT]

Thank god you guys finally accepted the fact.

Dude, any sane Indian knows that.

Don't take hyper media and few posters as reflection of all Indians.