India disappointed by Iran's reaction to Mumbai attacks

[AliFarooq]

ur right, but America has better soldiers but they failed in gorilla warfare. IDF might be well trained in gorilla war fare.

During the Lebanon conflict, it was considered that Lebanon had won the war.

 

[Bane Blade]

It is odd how everything Indian has a lot of emotion I always wonder how a government can show disappointment with another one sounds like as if they are sad.
I think every government should have their own opinion.
I wonder if they wanted Iran to give them a hug and tell them we feel sorry for you.

 

[Jihad]

Ya but Israel has a population of 7 million, now how many do you think will be able or are able to pick up a gun. Then you have to look at the # of muslims they are facing.

That is true, but the amount of Israelis that will be able to pick up a gun, will be equal to let's say 10-20 Arabs picking up 1 gun, in terms of quality and technology.
I might be exaggerating it a little, but still, if the quality of the armies of the Arab nations were significantly better, and their fear of American intervention or economic retaliation would not exist, they'd be able to punch the Israelis back.

 

[Prodigy17]

Gents, this thread was about indian disappointment with iranian response but you have turned it into Pak Vs Israel match. Pakistan has no issue with israel and as long as israel is astute enough to avoid indian drag into indo-pak conflict, we will have absolutely no problem with them. Leave them alone, we reserve the right to disagree and hate their policy but why should we even think of making them our enemy??? are you guys tired of india???? lets face the clear and present dangers first??????? If their arab neighbors are fine with them then what is our problem. Syria is the only country opposing them today but when syrians get their golan heights back, rest assured they will also play perfect neighbor to them. But we sitting thousands of miles away always have some issue.... again, disagreeing is fine but being bellicose is no use.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Come on friends lets be a bit more realistic here, we have to admit that the Israelis are very formidable opponents and there is a reason why they always defeat Arab armies. The quality of their soldiers and the sort of weapons they possess, they should definitely be applauded for that.

 

[Neo]

I concur...back to topic please.
Thanks!

 

[IceCold]

Come on friends lets be a bit more realistic here, we have to admit that the Israelis are very formidable opponents and there is a reason why they always defeat Arab armies. The quality of their soldiers and the sort of weapons they possess, they should definitely be applauded for that.

Add the uninterrupted shipment of US made weapons to that also. What do arabs have, after all they too have to look towards the same country(US) for weapons which is Israels biggest supplier and supporter. So one can predict the results.

 

[must7]

NATO+US is nothing in afganistan without pak support. IF we cut off the supply line to US forces. It would not able to survive for them in thier own made hell (AFganistan).

Yes Pakistan is beautiful. We love PAk. Pakistan is still more responsible country and is not giving the irresponsible remarks like india. We r also victim of terrorism But we don,t do blame game like india.

Pakistan is like a lion who is sleeping and India has put it,s leg on it,s tail and trying to awake it. Once this lion will awake, Indians jackals will run without looking back. (DUM DABA K).

As far as Iran is concerend, The great nation has accepted Pak first, when our beautiful nation came into being. We have good relations with our brother neighbour. US, India and Israel are annoyed of PAk as atomic power and does not want Iran to become the same

As far as SAudi Arab is concerned, India will get the same response as From Iran.
PAK_IRAN FRIENDSHP ZINDABAD
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD.
INDIA

Exactly ... Pakistan & Iran are long lost brothers and we even at our troubled times never believed that on principles Iran would be allowing their bases to be used by IAF to attack Pakistan.

It is simply not possible, but we had all those Indians jumping around claiming the world and now they realise reality. If principles were not enough, Indian back stabbing of Iran in the UN nuclear vote was another big nail in the Indian wet dreams.

 

[must7]

Press TV - Iran questions story behind Mumbai terror

Iran questions story behind Mumbai terror
Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:15:39 GMT

President-elect Barack Obama says the new administration will continue its presence in Iraq and Afghanistan with continuity.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has questioned the motive behind the prolonged seven-year Washington presence in Afghanistan.

"By keeping its forces in Afghanistan, the US has inflicted a heavy financial burden on its economy," the Iranian president said in a televised interview on Tuesday.

Washington and its allies seek a long-time strategy with regards to their policies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, he continued.

Seven years of occupation have not made Afghanistan any safer, as this year alone over 5,000 people have been killed and US military casualties have increased to the highest levels since the 2001 invasion.

Since the US invasion of the country, Afghanistan has also seen a phenomenal increase in the cultivation of opium, which is used to make heroin. The country now feeds the world with nearly 90 percent of its heroin.

"Their ulterior motive is to weaken India and China," suggested the president, adding that extra-regional presence can only help create a launching ground for further problems.

President Ahmadinejad said the 60-hour assault on Mumbai which killed nearly 172 people and injured almost 300 others was also orchestrated by elements outside the region.

"The main motive behind the terrorist attacks, which were orchestrated from outside the region, was to strain relations between Indian and Pakistan," he said.

India last week blamed Pakistani-based "elements" over the attacks across its financial capital, saying the terror bore the fingerprint of Lashkar-e-Taiba -- a group blamed for previous attacks in India.

"Even if the militants are linked to Lashker-e-Taiba, who do you think we are fighting?" commented Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari in reference to his government's operations against al-Qaeda and Taliban-linked militants near the Afghan border.

MGH/RA/MT/AA

 

[batmannow]

India disappointed by Iran's reaction to Mumbai attacks

NEW DELHI: India on Friday conveyed to Iran that it was deeply disappointed by the way the country had reacted to the Mumbai terror attacks.
Senior government officials admitted on condition of anonymity that visiting Iranian deputy foreign minister Mohammed Mehdi Akhoundzadeh had been given an earful by authorities for the widespread negative comments in the Iranian media about India.

Leading news agencies in Iran have been largely sympathetic towards Pakistan and insinuated that India has been acting under the influence of the US. President Mahmoud Ahahdinejad too had said after the Mumbai incident that it was perpetrated by people from outside the region.

However, this did not prevent Akhounzadeh from asking India not to let "sporadic terrorist incidents'' come in the way of the $7.4 billion Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline. Akhoundzadeh, who held talks with senior Indian officials on Friday, also did not acknowledge that the terrorists who perpetrated the Mumbai attacks were from Pakistan. He described Pakistan as a victim of terrorism.

"Sporadic terrorist incidents, wherever they are, should not deter the will and the determination of collective vision and wisdom of the Asian leaders to continue their march of progress. We feel Asian leaders should be vigilant enough to the futuristic needs and demands of its people,'' Akhoundzadeh told reporters after his meeting with Indian officials. He also stated that the "root cause'' for terrorism needed to be addressed even though he later denied that he meant J&K.

The pipeline project too has been marred by India's reluctance to join because of security concerns. Iran and Pakistan recently decided to go ahead with the project even if India backed out.

He said the history has shown that some forces have used "so-called" Islam to pursue their agenda and warned that "some countries are going to repeat the same mistake". He, however, did not elaborate.

Contending that both India and Pakistan have been victims of terrorism, he cited the assassinations of Mahatma Gandhi, former Prime Ministers Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi and former Pakistan Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in this context.

this the greatest response by any friendly nation of pakistan, & our policy makers still , looking west & US of A, for the support .
i guss , ITS ABOUT TIME , we should enter in some kind of alliance with , IRAN , & CHINA , PLUS RUSSIA?

 

[Black Stone]

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Mr. Black Stone,

I am quite agree with you, but dear in the 1979 dose any one thought that the USSR will face such defeat in Afghanistan, after collapse the Saddam’s regime dose any one think that America will kept in such a bad situation in Iraq, after falling of Taliban’s does any one think that NATO and America will set bound to only Kabul area only..................


And the bottom line is how and when the things change we can't know, but we can express our self and voice from our heart is “Attack on Israel".

Pakistan Zindabad

Ofcourse I cannot change how you think or what you want to express. But we must understand that what we think and reality are two different things. What he thinks is fantasy, what I told him was reality.

 

[Black Stone]

Don't let your imagination get ahead of you sir. You are being paranoid and presumptuous.

It is not imagination, what I said was fact.

The only thing people see here is that you are threatening our beautiful country with annihilation just because someone pointed out that Pakistan has the potential to destroy Israel.

If you read again, my response was to the person who said that Pakistan and Iran can destroy Israel. Now, let's think about this...who is threatening who here? I am not the person who started posting things like Israel can destroy Pakistan

Another point is why are you feeling threatened? there is simply no need. My reponse of the destruction of Pakistan is when Pakistan attacks Israel. You can treat it as a action/reaction. Please keep up with the details of the posts.

Pakistan alone CAN do it. We have bombs and we have the missiles with the numbers and range to ensure a direct hit. Furthermore, I know you're being emotional, but as per a technical evaluation one nuclear explosion at the heart of Israel (i.e. Tel Aviv) would be sufficient to ensure that Israeli nation is 'destroyed' in almost every sense of the word (along with loads of Palestinians as well probably). So yes we have the potential, just like the Israelis probably have the potential to destroy large parts of Pakistan.
Here is a map of the range of Pakistani nuclear warheads.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39936000/gif/_39936067_pakistan_missile_map416.gif

You are a nuclear armed state...so is Israel. By attacking Israel you are simply putting Pakistan on a path of destruction...again, this is not threat, but fact. I am not advocating a Israeli strike here, but a response from a Pakistani strike on Israel as advocated by silverfalcon.

If you don’t think that Pakistan and Iran teaming up to take on Israel is reasonable, then you could have just said that…without the emotional half-threats.

Again, there is no threat here, I am telling you the response to an attack on Israel...which is putting Pakistan on the path of destruction. There is no need for you to get emotional.

It could be reasonable in your view, but let's think about this...Let's say Pakistan and Iran attacks Israel...you might be able to destroy Israel but do you know what will happen to Pakistan? The beauatiful Pakistan that you love so much...the place you call home...will be completely destroyed...again, this is fact because we have the capability to do so.

Again, I say this...this is not a threat...but what will happen should Pakistan alone or with Iran attacks Israel.

 

[Black Stone]

NATO+US is nothing in afganistan without pak support. IF we cut off the supply line to US forces. It would not able to survive for them in thier own made hell (AFganistan).

Yes Pakistan is beautiful. We love PAk. Pakistan is still more responsible country and is not giving the irresponsible remarks like india. We r also victim of terrorism But we don,t do blame game like india.

Pakistan is like a lion who is sleeping and India has put it,s leg on it,s tail and trying to awake it. Once this lion will awake, Indians jackals will run without looking back. (DUM DABA K).

As far as Iran is concerend, The great nation has accepted Pak first, when our beautiful nation came into being. We have good relations with our brother neighbour. US, India and Israel are annoyed of PAk as atomic power and does not want Iran to become the same

As far as SAudi Arab is concerned, India will get the same response as From Iran.
PAK_IRAN FRIENDSHP ZINDABAD
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD.
INDIA

Let's not drift on what we are doing in Afghanistan, let's stick to the current situation...which is Pakistan + Iran destroying Israel.

 

[Black Stone]

To be fair, when the Arabs attacked Israel each time, US and NATO were nowhere to be found!

There could be many explanations about this just like other situations. But what was the result without US and NATO? Was it a Arab victory?.

Pakistan plus Iran cannot compare to the Arabs situation, let's not forget that Pakistan is a nuclear armed state. You can be sure that should Pakistan attacks Israel...US and NATO would intervene.

 

[Kharian_Beast]

There could be many explanations about this just like other situations. But what was the result without US and NATO? Was it a Arab victory?.

Pakistan plus Iran cannot compare to the Arabs situation, let's not forget that Pakistan is a nuclear armed state. You can be sure that should Pakistan attacks Israel...US and NATO would intervene.

Yes no doubts Black Stone, nothing you are saying is out of the ordinary. However, you and I both know that Pakistan would never unilaterally attack Israel. We may offer our services in a broader conflict if that happens but we are not known for disturbing the balance and irritating the region like some.