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India Creating Ring of Fire in South Asia

Another BS. UK GDP 2.3 trillion while US is 13.21 trillion. Us is what almost 50 times bigger.
So "we need to" think US is crap with respect to UK. Amazing logic.

The US is around 6000 miles away from the UK so the two situations are of course not comparable. Bangladesh and India are right next to each other so the situation is comparable.

It is India's own paranoia that will destroy it. Bangladesh and Pakistan will have to do nothing. To keep India united it needs enemies like Pakistan and Bangladesh to argue and fight with. If there was peace India would of its own accord fall apart.
 
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The US is around 6000 miles away from the UK so the two situations are of course not comparable. Bangladesh and India are right next to each other so the situation is comparable.
So America and Venezula is comparable? or America and Canada? The logic is still stupid.

It is India's own paranoia that will destroy it. Bangladesh and Pakistan will have to do nothing. To keep India united it needs enemies like Pakistan and Bangladesh to argue and fight with. If there was peace India would of its own accord fall apart.

Indians Paranoiad of what? Pakistan and Bangladesh? You dont have to go far,just browse through this forum and you will find who is paranoid about whom? Compare the article posted by some Pakistanis and Bangladeshi posters to "prove" how useless India and be happy about it, to that posted by Indians.
I should say I admire the efforts they put in to gather those articles.

Forget others... think about yourself.Ever thought how much "paranoid" your are about RAW.
As far India is concerned,despite it's faults it is moving ahead with the world, while it's neighbors are still stuck in dedicating all there efforts and time to finding faults with India and being happy how their nation is better.
Is India bother..hell no.
 
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I think you have been smoking too much of your own stash.

Similar comparisons have been made globally but since you are barely literate I guess you have not read -

David Landes - The Wealth and Poverty of Nations

or

Paul Kennedy - The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers

Actually I am not paranoid about RAW since they have already tried to bribe me once. I have no illusions about India's intentions.
 
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I think you have been smoking too much of your own stash.

Similar comparisons have been made globally but since you are barely literate I guess you have not read -

David Landes - The Wealth and Poverty of Nations

or

Paul Kennedy - The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers

Actually I am not paranoid about RAW since they have already tried to bribe me once. I have no illusions about India's intentions.

So "smoking stash" is all you can come up with? Pity.
I am well aware of the comparison made b/w economies. No matter whoever writers you point out,they dont make idiotic comparison like you do.

You twist the logic to suit your line of thought. According to you India-Bangladesh comparison is right while US-UK comparison is wrong becoz they are separated by thousands of miles. What rubbish

Mr Munshi,I prefer to be a sensible "barely literate" than idiotic highly literate like you.

And yes you just proved why RAW is useless. They tried to bribe you of all people. Not because you are "patriotic",rather I am shocked that RAW choose an inept target.
 
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Well they're paying you aren't they .......... and you are a complete moron.
 
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Distance, By God, Distance is his excuse, How is distance or size matter. what a complete idiot, i dont even think he is literate, thank god for Microsoft Word and spell check, cuz thats how he write's so Beautifully
 
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Adux,

I think I should take that as a compliment as I do not rely on spell check or the other facilities of Microsoft Word.

As for the 'idiot' comment I think it takes one to recognize one. Join the club. You are clearly another one of those RAW hired hands so you fit the imbecile criteria for entry into that organization. You already said that I work for RAW so I guess I must also fit the description. but all credit goes to RAW .... our employers ....... Psyche!
 
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Adux,

I think I should take that as a compliment as I do not rely on spell check or the other facilities of Microsoft Word.

As for the 'idiot' comment I think it takes one to recognize one. Join the club. You are clearly another one of those RAW hired hands so you fit the imbecile criteria for entry into that organization. You already said that I work for RAW so I guess I must also fit the description. but all credit goes to RAW .... our employers ....... Psyche!

Munshi beta why are u **** scared about RAW did they do something with you ...:rofl:
 
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There are only 4 states within the entire Indian Union that has a better economy than Bangladesh. If you consider many of the poorer states are equal in size and population to Bangladesh but economically they are doing far less will. .

Like you take the suburbs of paris and then say 'hey we are richer than them'.

Also if you think that India is almost 20 times the size of Bangladesh but its economy is only doing 10 times better that says a lot about the standing of the latter and the weakness of the former. .

You know what, your law colleges needs reforms , not India!!!

If you again consider that Bangladesh is linguistically and religiously homogeneous while India is divided along religious, cultural, caste and ethnic lines the question then springs to mind is that would it not be better for these weaker states within the Union to simply secede.

Get a life !!!
 
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I suggest the immature Indian members here to behave. Final word. No more..

Get a life u mother ******!!!

If you want to debate. Do it constructively, or get out of here.
 
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BANGLADESH: Failure to criminalise torture makes Bangladesh unsuitable for UN Human Rights Council

This is the second of five open letters that the Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) feels compelled to write to the UN Human Rights Council concerning the horrible human rights situation in Bangladesh, and its causes. We are doing this as we are deeply concerned for the integrity and credibility of the Council if Bangladesh is permitted to sit as a member for the coming three years as intended.

In our first letter we pointed to the failure of the Government of Bangladesh to separate the judiciary and executive, despite 15 years of promises to do so, and the consequent denial of redress for victims of rights abuses there.

In our second letter we take up the failure of the government to criminalise torture, and the unnecessary suffering that this imposes upon the many victims of cruel and inhuman treatment and torture by the police and other security forces in Bangladesh.

In its 13 April 2006 statement to the UN in advance of getting a seat on the new Human Rights Council, the Government of Bangladesh made a lot of boasts about its adherence to international instruments and institutions. It pointed out that it is a party to "more than 18 international human rights instruments", including the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment.

However, as the AHRC has consistently pointed out, the value of joining an international treaty lies only in its being implemented locally. And where this is concerned, the Government of Bangladesh is a human rights failure. What it did not recall in its proud statement was that it ratified the Convention with a reservation on article 14(1). That article is an integral part of the Convention, guaranteeing victims the legally-enforcable right of redress, rehabilitation and compensation. By reserving the article, the government in effect quietly negated the value of the treaty. Not surprisingly, a number of states objected to this action, questioning whether or not the Government of Bangladesh has any real commitment to its provisions.

Since ratifying the Convention against Torture, the Government of Bangladesh has proven that it did so without sincerity. In spite of joining the treaty and having a constitutional provision prohibiting torture, it has taken no steps to criminalise torture or amend domestic laws to give access to remedies, rehabilitation or compensation for victims. This is despite the key General Recommendation of the UN Special Rapporteur on the question of torture that, "Torture should be designated and defined as a specific crime of the utmost gravity in national legislation... the enactment of such legislation should be made a priority". As a result, the Convention is so far meaningless to the people of Bangladesh.

Take the case of Rashida Khatun, a family planning officer who on 8 June 2006 visited the office of the Satkhira police chief on behalf of a relative. She was brutally assaulted in the chief's personal office by another officer, using a waist belt and stick. She was rescued, bruised and bleeding all over, by a nearby shopkeeper who heard her cries and dared to intervene. However, when she was taken to hospital, a doctor twice refused to admit her and gave her only some outpatient treatment, due to influence of the police. The police also allegedly removed the medical records so that when she lodged a criminal complaint they could not be used as evidence. The local magistrate on June 26 ordered an inquiry, which is due to be completed; however, these rarely result in any action against police officers. Meanwhile, the victim has been constantly threatened by the police, who have all continued in their posts.

The story of Rashida Khatun is the story of countless victims of torture and cruel and inhuman treatment all over Bangladesh. Without legal provisions to enact the Convention against Torture, there is no special category of complaint for when they are brutalised by police or other state agents. Without arrangements for medical intervention in cases of torture, there is no easy way to get treatment for the suffering caused. Without an independent judiciary, there is little chance to obtain a judgment that will hold the perpetrators responsible. Without any programme to protect witnesses or victims, they are at the mercy of the same powerful people responsible for their misery and degradation. Without all of these, the Government of Bangladesh has utterly failed in its obligations under the Convention.

The AHRC seriously doubts that the Government of Bangladesh has any intention to implement the Convention against Torture. Had the government been sincere in ratifying the Convention, it could have begun work years ago, and by now have had in place many measures which would amerliorate the worst effects of torture and reduce its incidence across the country. Instead, the police and other personnel continue to enjoy virtual impunity for whatever horrors they commit upon the people under their jurisdiction. As a result, untold numbers of victims like Rashida Khatun are up to today continuing to suffer injustice heaped upon abuse by the country's so-called justice system, unable to find the avenues and means to obtain redress, rehabilitation or compensation.

The Government of Bangladesh has pledged that it would "remain prepared to be reviewed under the universal periodic review mechanism during its tenure in the Council". The Asian Human Rights Commission again urges the Council to call on that pledge, and review the status of Bangladesh as a member of the Council as soon as the means is established to do so. The failure of the government to give meaning to the Convention against Torture, not to mention a host of other international treaties to which it is ostensibly a party, is unconscionable. It is daily causing misery to the people of Bangladesh and further eroding their confidence in policing and all aspects of administration and justice in their country. It is the characteristic not of a country that deserves a seat on the Human Rights Council, but rather the characteristic of a bloody society ruled by feudal lords who are disguised as political party leaders, and a society terrorised by their minions, who are disguised as police, prosecutors and other state functionaries.

I request that your office transmit this letter to all members of the Council for their consideration.

Yours sincerely

Basil Fernando
Executive Director
Asian Human Rights Commission, Hong Kong



Posted on 2006-08-04
 
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''The Threat of Islamic Extremism to Bangladesh''

he Bangladesh government's current measures against Islamic extremists operating on its soil could put the country's interests in danger. With conditions in the country conducive to the spread of Islamic extremism, the government's relaxed approach to this issue could enhance Bangladesh's attractiveness as a haven for terrorists fleeing counter-terrorism operations elsewhere.

Incidents of extremism and terrorism have witnessed a sharp increase in Bangladesh in recent years, with the number of attacks last year exceeding the total number of incidents in the preceding five years. Most of the attacks have been directed against religious minorities, secular intellectuals and journalists as well as against politicians belonging to secular parties and leftist activists. Islamist extremists have sought to impose an Islamic way of life on people in rural areas, often through the use of force. Women have been coerced into veiling themselves and men have been forced to grow beards and wear skull caps.

Many who defy these rules have been tortured and killed. Cultural groups and cinema halls have been targeted as well. In August 2004, a bomb blast at a rally being addressed by Sheikh Hasina Wajed, former prime minister and leader of the secular, center-left Awami League, killed 21 people and injured hundreds. This was the second attempt on her life, the first being in 2000 when she was prime minister. In January this year, former finance minister Shah M.S. Kibria, also of the Awami League, was assassinated.

These attacks are believed to be the work of Islamist terror outfits like the Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami, Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami/Bangladesh (H.U.J.I.-B.), the Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh (J.M.J.B.) and the Ahle Hadith Andolon Bangladesh (A.H.A.B.). H.U.J.I.-B.'s links with al-Qaeda are well known. It is said to have been set up with seed money provided by Osama bin Laden, and the group is a member of his International Islamic Front (I.I.F.).

History of Islamic Fundamentalism in Bangladesh

Neither Islamic fundamentalism nor extremism is new to Bangladesh. Although it was linguistic nationalism not religious nationalism that led to the creation of Bangladesh in 1971, Islamist forces have grown in strength thanks to patronage by successive governments. Following the assassination of its founding father, the secular Sheikh Mujibur Rehman in 1975, the hold of fundamentalist forces over the government -- whether military or democratic -- witnessed a sharp increase.

Successive governments openly courted the fundamentalist Jamaat-e-Islami. Discredited in 1971 for its collaboration with the Pakistan Army during the Bangladesh liberation war, Jamaat-e-Islami was resurrected by General Ziaur Rehman in the late '70s. Jamaat leaders, who had fled to Pakistan in the aftermath of the 1971 war, were brought back to Bangladesh by Rehman. Jamaat's influence grew rapidly thereafter. For instance, in the 1980s, General Hussain Mohammad Ershad went a step further and used Jamaat to counter the secular Awami League.

But it was not just Bangladesh's military rulers who wooed the fundamentalists. Political parties and politicians courted them as well. During Prime Minister Khaleda Zia's first stint at the helm in the first half of the 1990s, Jamaat and other fundamentalist outfits were given free rein. Over the years, Jamaat set up thousands of madrassas in Bangladesh, many of which are known to recruit and train jihadi fighters.

Fundamentalist activism in Bangladesh received a big boost in 2001. General elections in October brought to power a four party coalition led by the center-right Bangladesh Nationalist Party (B.N.P.) and including two fundamentalist parties -- Jamaat-e-Islami and the Islamic Oikya Jote. Jamaat has two ministers in government. Even if Jamaat is not directly involved in the recent terrorist attacks, its inclusion in the coalition government has encouraged radical Islamist groups to feel that they enjoy protection from the government and can act with impunity. The links between terror outfits and sections of the government has sent out a strong signal to the local police to refrain from apprehending those who are engaging in gun-running and violence.

Jamaat and Islamic Oikya Jote are not just fundamentalist organizations. They support and have links with the Taliban and al-Qaeda and both parties have supported the terrorist activities of the H.U.J.I.-B. Islamic Oikya Jote's chairman, Azizul Huq, is said to be a member of H.U.J.I.-B.'s advisory council.

The coming to power of a fundamentalist-friendly coalition in Bangladesh coincided with the fall of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan and the loss of training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Their bases were disrupted by counter-insurgency operations in Afghanistan, so al-Qaeda fighters were forced to look for new nests. Bangladesh emerged as an attractive sanctuary. In April 2002, Bertil Lintner wrote in the Far Eastern Economic Review that after the fall of Kandahar in Afghanistan in late 2001, hundreds of Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters arrived by ship from Karachi to the Bangladesh port city of Chittagong. A few months later, Time magazine's Alex Perry provided details on southern Bangladesh having become "a haven for hundreds of jihadis." The Bangladeshi media too has reported extensively about the activities of the extremists, especially of the violence engineered by Bangla Bhai, leader of the J.M.J.B.

Bangladesh's attractiveness as a safe haven for terrorists is not new. Anti-India militants fighting Indian security forces in the insurgency-wracked states of India's northeast have used Bangladesh as a sanctuary for decades. Groups such as the United Liberation Front of Assam (U.L.F.A.) and the National Liberation Front of Tripura (N.L.F.T.) are known to have set up training camps on Bangladeshi soil and militants under pressure from counter-insurgency operations in India have taken refuge there.

India, which for years has been calling rather unsuccessfully on the Bangladesh government to close down anti-India militant training camps on Bangladeshi soil, has also drawn attention to the nexus between militants active in India's insurgency-wracked northeast, Bangladesh's Islamist extremists and al-Qaeda. It has called attention to the cooperation between Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (I.S.I.) and Bangladesh's Directorate General of Forces Intelligence in fostering the terrorist network in Bangladesh.

The Bangladesh government has reacted fiercely to suggestions that the country is becoming a haven for Islamic extremism. It banned the distribution of the Far Eastern Economic Review issue that carried Lintner's "baseless" article. Newspaper offices have been raided and journalists taken into custody for investigating al-Qaeda activities in the country. Its standard response to India's allegations, for instance, has been outright denial.

It was only on February 23, 2005 that the Bangladesh government, under pressure from the European Union, took some steps against terror outfits. The J.M.J.B. and the Jama'atul Mujahideen Bangladesh (J.M.B.) were banned. Incidentally, until February 23, the government had been dismissing reports of the J.M.J.B.'s vigilante violence as a figment of the media's imagination. Some leaders and cadres were taken into custody in February but neither Bangla Bhai nor Moulana Abdur Rahman, a former activist of Jamaat-e-Islami who is now the leader of the J.M.J.B., were arrested. Strangely, the government did not take action against H.U.J.I.-B. either.

Responding to the U.S. listing of H.U.J.I.-B. as a terrorist group, Bangladesh's Foreign Minister Moshed Khan said that he had not seen "such activity [terrorism] in Bangladesh. … The way Bangladesh is being painted with the same brush time and again it seems that it is a conspiracy and an orchestrated campaign by some vested quarters." While the Bangladesh government is now reluctantly admitting to the presence of terrorist groups in the country, it remains adamant that there are no al-Qaeda operatives on its soil.

In addition to political compulsions to keep her fundamentalist partners in the coalition government happy, Prime Minister Khaleda Zia's inadequate response against terrorists and jihadis is prompted by her intense political and personal rivalry with Sheikh Hasina. Informed observers of the political scene in Bangladesh say that the B.N.P. sees its fundamentalist friends as useful weapons to keep the Awami League in check.

The prime minister's reluctance to rein in her fundamentalist partners in government and take firm action against terrorism could prove costly. Bangladesh's terror outfits are by no means insignificant. H.U.J.I.-B., for instance, is said to have thousands of fighters. Its original mission might have been to set up Islamic rule in Bangladesh but, over the years, its ambitions and the geographical spread of its role have grown substantially.

During the 1990s, it was involved in training Muslim Rohingya insurgents from Myanmar and it sent its cadres to fight in Afghanistan and against Indian security forces in Jammu and Kashmir. Post-9/11, its responsibilities in the global jihad have grown. It appears to have been made responsible for training jihadi fighters from southern Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia and Brunei and it is sending its own fighters to Indonesia, the Philippines and Chechnya.

Conclusion

It would, however, be an exaggeration to describe Bangladesh as being on the brink of "Talibanization" as some reports in the media have claimed. The average Bangladeshi is uneasy with the steady Islamization of the country. The country has a history of linguistic nationalism triumphing over religious nationalism and there is still a strong Bengali culture that Bangladeshi Muslims and Hindus share. This has acted as a brake against the rising tide of extremism to some extent so far.

However, more powerful brakes will be needed. And unless the Bangladesh government acts to crack down on extremism and terrorism, the potential threat that Islamic extremism in Bangladesh poses to global security could turn imminent.

Report Drafted By:
Dr. Sudha Ramachandran

http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=334&language_id=1
 
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