India could strike Pakistan with nuclear weapons first to pre-empt attack

[Mitro]

Baniya market se zigar nahi milta
As soon as India start assembling nuclear warhead Pakistan will know what's going on and will send south block picture of hundreds ready to fire [emoji91] nuclear missile .
So all the fuz will die down .

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

US general will not get briefing from CIA and he is just pissing in the air and CIA didn't know much either YET Pakistan officially warned the Americans a weak before Indian test about Indian intentions. In nutshell Pakistan know more about Indian program then yanks. Is it sheer stupidity or your silly nationalism which is making you look like a complete idiot here?

It seems you are Gen Zinni right side testicle. Other then that, I can't find any logic to your verbal diaherra.




https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...Ulg-CKPFD5HWLNTVQ&sig2=vUbkoMnqakntO9-tpXNuqQ

P4-type: Western intelligence data suggest that Pakistan developed an ad-
vanced centrifuge in the mid-1980s. Accordingly, this machine is based on a
Durch Urenco design, designated SLM, later known as the TC-10.22 Report-
edly, the rotor has a diameter of 14.5 cm, a length of 3.2 m, and is operated
at 508 m/s. The separative performance of the P-4 has been quoted as 21
SWU/yr.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/rdenever/PPA%20730-11/Albright%20and%20Hinderstein.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiytMuTh-vSAhVGAsAKHZzzD-0QFggdMAE&usg=AFQjCNFMltADDC1T-NDJaAufVhkWR_6BEA&sig2=k7pL_Uq-AyQh2RgTd-MdnQ

However, inspectors noticed that someone modified the design in distinctive
ways. In addition, the original drawings were shown to inspectors, and their
labels are in English, not Dutch or German. According to intelligence
information, the design resembles one built by Pakistan in the 1980s and
early 1990s that is sometimes called the P1.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.hi...sanjani/story-FUUGESDD5UTOINUxuq0HwN_amp.html

Former president Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani has lifted the lid on Pakistan’s role in the development of Iran’s nuclear programme, saying Pakistan provided designs and technology, including 4,000 used centrifuges for enriching uranium.



We fuking build the damn new generation centrifuges, we setup another state (Iran) nuke proragme with our own albeit used centrifuges, we been churning fissile material since 80s, hell we make and design the machines which produce weapon grade fissile material, and here we are, a random Indian trolls coming up with silly arguments. We don't go about stealing plutonium from IAEA safeguarded Canadian reactor and blow it up in some random desert and call it "smiling buddha".

HA HA HA


What are you on about we didn't know? Hell we pre warned yanks about Indians designs a week before. How can they not know? Lol. The subsequent American behaviour after Indian test actually solidify Pakistani suspicions that India had American blessings and the devices tested were actually Israeli. This also explained the American patronage India received and still receiving in coming years during and after Clinton presidency.

Isreali F16s reaching India, not a rocket science is it? American refuller fly all along, then you got diago garcia in Indian ocean. Guess difficult to understand by punny Indian mind.



Read above Suunyboy.

In your 20+ so called reactors, how many are outside IAEA? Please enlighten us.



Couldn't have narrated it better myself.




https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...o-pre-empt-attack.484749/page-13#post-9316196

This was the reply to another Indian troll. This will cover you as well. Read and weap.

Teshekkurlar Abi. May Allah-u Azimushshan bless the PDF "cyber warriors" defending Pak like the way HE blessed those who were defending the earliest Muslim state!!!

 

[Pyara9]

Imaginary Suppa powa which isn't even a regional suppa powa plans as follows.
1) isolate Pakistan.. done
2) Surgical Strike.. done
3) pre-emptive strike.. in progress
4) full fledged war. after step 3

Imaginary Indian thinking..
1)Pak will Send all intelligence agencies on 1 week Vacation to Mexico.
2)Pak Will Turn off all radars, park all awacs aircrafts.
3) Block Chinese Intel agencies phone number. lolz n tell them to stop monitoring India with their fancy satalites.
4) Send our Submarines with nukes, circling Indian ocean on a fishing mission to North pole.
5) Make sure all nuke capable Mirages Jets are in storage n pilots on leave.
6) Bring all Underground nukes to level ground n place them on ground right next to Mirage jets.

In reality We know ever time modi farts, Yes even the silent ones. You Indians been next door since 1947 You haven't attacked us even once yet.. Did you also import testrone juice from russia? Also niggia If you could you would.

Get real!

china would disown them on the first day of war. Remember china gave away musharaff's audio tapes to the world during kargil which proved those were not mujahiden but pakistani army in kargil. i dont think anyone did a greater help than china during kargil.

o Ya? you didn't have the balls to take a step inside Pakistani territory during Kargil war. When Pakistan was under sanctions n at its weakest point. What makes u think u can do it now? Nothing has changed only Pakistan is much stronger now. Talk is cheap.

Why not US attacking North Korea?Why not Israel attacking Palestine?Why not Iran attacking Saudis?Why not China attacking Japan?
Having ICBM or cruise doesn't give you right to penetrate any country...

Hmm you don't have iron dome yet. Why do you you Indians keep on discussing weapons which you dont even possess yet? I.e s400?? We already have mirv. The dome we will have something for it by the time u have it. We always have counter weapons. when u do u can bet u last dollar we will have something to counter it. Just as its has been since 1947. We ain't no Palestine and your no isreal. After all you have the biggest population of poor people in the world. And a serious lack of tiolets, Worlds biggest recipients of USAID (Beggers), Also as much as you Indians like to think your the suppa powa, China out ranks u in every field. Let alone the Usa mr. suppa powwaa..

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It could become the Silk/Spice route if India gives back Kashmir otherwise watch from sidelines

 

[Pyara9]

Well 1st level of ABM is ready to deployed or might be deployed , who knows , S400 System ?

Ever heard iron Dome? most difficult thing to hit is unguided rocket. when those rockets cant be hit, Missile is easy.

ABM only reduced the no of incoming missile, After 1st strike by India , PAK would have very few missile left to fire and ABM will take care of it.

way above your knowledge level, ABM only fails if large number of missile salvo launched .

You don't have s-400, You don't have iron dome. Imaginary weapons jst like ur the imaginary suppa powaa.. If we talking imaginary future wepons then ya Pakistan is building a death star it's going destroy the world along with you pesky Indians haha. I tell u whats real ,Mirv's? Ever heard of that? We tested it n it's ready for your S400.. Its a counter to S-400. We have it before u even get ur hands on s-400. We'll definitely have a counter for for iron dorm if you ever get it i.e death star lol. I promise

 

[war&peace]

Strange change of roles in subcontinent. It was Pakistan the international community criticised for its first use policy in case of war but now india has become so insecure that despite being 5 times larger in area and population, it has been changed its very old stance of 2nd strike or no first use but it is too late for hindia since Pakistan has already acquired the 2nd strike capability and it is going to further consolidate it while india's dream of attacking Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is nothing but a wet nightmare since it has no idea about Pakistan's nuclear arsenal...if even hindia's sugardaddy doesn't know how come this insecure nation of below normal IQ level fanatics can possibly know...

 

[StraightShooter]

I believe this is going to be true.

Unless India does that, it will be plunging into a "two-front-war-scenario" which is a non-viable situation for India. And why should India use nuclear weapons second when half of its fleet is already destroyed and it is already struggling to keep up against one enemy - Pakistan? It is indeed in the best interest of India to launch an offensive nuclear strike first, cause as much damage to Pakistan as it possibly can and save as much military power as it possibly can to confront second enemy - China.

NiamatAllah Shah Wali spoke about Turkey and Iran siding with Pakistan to defeat India. This only seems possible when Pakistan is a victim of Nuclear attack first.

To ensure a potent second strike, Pakistan should have its nuclear assets well scattered must come up with mechanisms which enable second strike using non-standard means, and I am talking about outside standard delivery mechanisms.

India would engage Pakistan conventionally only and under the nuclear threshold of Pakistan.

With time this threshold is bound to increase giving India enough room.

 

[SDS1]

You don't have s-400, You don't have iron dome. Imaginary weapons jst like ur the imaginary suppa powaa.. If we talking imaginary future wepons then ya Pakistan is building a death star it's going destroy the world along with you pesky Indians haha. I tell u whats real ,Mirv's? Ever heard of that? We tested it n it's ready for your S400.. Its a counter to S-400. We have it before u even get ur hands on s-400. We'll definitely have a counter for for iron dorm if you ever get it i.e death star lol. I promise

one more kid came , S-400 is coming ,
Iron Dome is a example for new born kids who think Missiles cant be brought down.

Well No other country can fit MIRV's in such short profile missile , now even US , only PAK has super duper Alien technology. Cheers....

 

[NirmalKrish]

It could become the Silk/Spice route if India gives back Kashmir otherwise watch from sidelines

http://www.jammu-kashmir.com/documents/jkunresolution.html

PART II: TRUCE AGREEMENT
Simultaneously with the acceptance of the proposal for the immediate cessation of hostilities as outlined in Part I, both the Governments accept the following principles as a basis for the formulation of a truce agreement, the details of which shall be worked out in discussion between their representatives and the Commission.
A.

1. As the presence of troops of Pakistan in the territory of the State of Jammu and Kashmir constitutes a material change in the situation since it was represented by the Government of Pakistan before the Security Council, the Government of Pakistan agrees to withdraw its troops from that State.

2. The Government of Pakistan will use its best endeavour to secure the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and Pakistani nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the State for the purpose of fighting.

3. Pending a final solution, the territory evacuated by the Pakistani troops will be administered by the local authorities under the surveillance of the commission.

Please fulfil these criteria's and then come to the talking table... otherwise its just all hot air, good for nothing!

 

[SDS1]

US general will not get briefing from CIA and he is just pissing in the air and CIA didn't know much either YET Pakistan officially warned the Americans a weak before Indian test about Indian intentions. In nutshell Pakistan know more about Indian program then yanks. Is it sheer stupidity or your silly nationalism which is making you look like a complete idiot here?

It seems you are Gen Zinni right side testicle. Other then that, I can't find any logic to your verbal diaherra.

Gen Zinni is from Central Command and India fall in Pacific command area , Both Command is different area to control and according to area they get Intel / briefing. What happening on the other Command area is non of their concern.

Well PAK started to cry about Indian Test When BJP made cleared in Its Poll promise that it will do nuclear test and as soon it won and it won election, PAK started to cry about test since then

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...Ulg-CKPFD5HWLNTVQ&sig2=vUbkoMnqakntO9-tpXNuqQ

P4-type: Western intelligence data suggest that Pakistan developed an ad-
vanced centrifuge in the mid-1980s. Accordingly, this machine is based on a
Durch Urenco design, designated SLM, later known as the TC-10.22 Report-
edly, the rotor has a diameter of 14.5 cm, a length of 3.2 m, and is operated
at 508 m/s. The separative performance of the P-4 has been quoted as 21
SWU/yr.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/rdenever/PPA%20730-11/Albright%20and%20Hinderstein.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiytMuTh-vSAhVGAsAKHZzzD-0QFggdMAE&usg=AFQjCNFMltADDC1T-NDJaAufVhkWR_6BEA&sig2=k7pL_Uq-AyQh2RgTd-MdnQ

However, inspectors noticed that someone modified the design in distinctive
ways. In addition, the original drawings were shown to inspectors, and their
labels are in English, not Dutch or German. According to intelligence
information, the design resembles one built by Pakistan in the 1980s and
early 1990s that is sometimes called the P1.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.hi...sanjani/story-FUUGESDD5UTOINUxuq0HwN_amp.html

Former president Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani has lifted the lid on Pakistan’s role in the development of Iran’s nuclear programme, saying Pakistan provided designs and technology, including 4,000 used centrifuges for enriching uranium.


We fuking build the damn new generation centrifuges, we setup another state (Iran) nuke proragme with our own albeit used centrifuges, we been churning fissile material since 80s, hell we make and design the machines which produce weapon grade fissile material, and here we are, a random Indian trolls coming up with silly arguments. We don't go about stealing plutonium from IAEA safeguarded Canadian reactor and blow it up in some random desert and call it "smiling buddha".

HA HA HA

We all know , your capabilities of your machines......
As it turns out, we have relatively detailed information about the ring magnets used in Pakistan’s P2 centrifuge because of a failed 1991 effort by Pakistan to purchase similar ring magnets in Germany

http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/206470/ring-magnets/

In 1995, it allegedly sold Pakistan 5,000 ring magnets needed for high-speed gas centrifuges, while a U.S. intelligence report in 1997 held that “China was the single most important supplier of equipment and technology for weapons of mass destruction” in the world.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/02/china-pakistan-and-nuclear-non-proliferation/

So we knows what level of technology and Centrifuges you have , don't worry about it. I never said you don't have centrifuges, so what if u cant make magnetic rings required for centrifuges lol.

Two questions you still now able to give even after moving round and round
A) Your technology Patent No/ file no ?
B) Quality / capacity of production of your rectors in KG's

What are you on about we didn't know? Hell we pre warned yanks about Indians designs a week before. How can they not know? Lol. The subsequent American behaviour after Indian test actually solidify Pakistani suspicions that India had American blessings and the devices tested were actually Israeli. This also explained the American patronage India received and still receiving in coming years during and after Clinton presidency.

Isreali F16s reaching India, not a rocket science is it? American refuller fly all along, then you got diago garcia in Indian ocean. Guess difficult to understand by punny Indian mind.

Check again where is Israeli is the MAP and what route it has to take to reach India without getting detected ( by avoiding Muslims countries Airspace) how many KM's? Mr Smart Pant? .....

In your 20+ so called reactors, how many are outside IAEA? Please enlighten us.

Mr Smart / Intelligent man , How many come under IAEA and since when ? before coming Under IAEA were they sitting ideal?

Do maths and let us know.. If can do 2+2 =5 lol

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

lol Mr intelligent, care you tell us your Stockpile of on weapon grade U and P in KGS? and ur reactor capacity ?

Oh man so secretive of PAK nuke program that only one reactor can produce so many KG of PO /U then India's 10's of reactor which is bigger then any PAK reactor. This is called living in LA LA land.

you patent the technologies of P1 and P2 really ? the same P1 and P2 for which you bring Magnetic rings from China?

BTW - report published in 2000, now after 15 yrs you can calculate how much more P/U India will have, lol as per PAK logic it will decrease in Indian case.



yes that why they reached Lahore.....)

Should i tell you the name of the canal that you were not able to cross in the out skirt of lahore??
or should i post picture from last days of war where we were in your positions inside indi on lahore boundary??

 

[Paranoid Android]

Gen Zinni is from Central Command and India fall in Pacific command area , Both Command is different area to control and according to area they get Intel / briefing. What happening on the other Command area is non of their concern.

Well PAK started to cry about Indian Test When BJP made cleared in Its Poll promise that it will do nuclear test and as soon it won and it won election, PAK started to cry about test since then




We all know , your capabilities of your machines......
As it turns out, we have relatively detailed information about the ring magnets used in Pakistan’s P2 centrifuge because of a failed 1991 effort by Pakistan to purchase similar ring magnets in Germany

http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/206470/ring-magnets/

In 1995, it allegedly sold Pakistan 5,000 ring magnets needed for high-speed gas centrifuges, while a U.S. intelligence report in 1997 held that “China was the single most important supplier of equipment and technology for weapons of mass destruction” in the world.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/02/china-pakistan-and-nuclear-non-proliferation/

So we knows what level of technology and Centrifuges you have , don't worry about it. I never said you don't have centrifuges, so what if u cant make magnetic rings required for centrifuges lol.

Two questions you still now able to give even after moving round and round
A) Your technology Patent No/ file no ?
B) Quality / capacity of production of your rectors in KG's


Check again where is Israeli is the MAP and what route it has to take to reach India without getting detected ( by avoiding Muslims countries Airspace) how many KM's? Mr Smart Pant? .....


Mr Smart / Intelligent man , How many come under IAEA and since when ? before coming Under IAEA were they sitting ideal?

Do maths and let us know.. If can do 2+2 =5 lol

Good piece..
So much for amour propre.

 

[SDS1]

Who told you that?

lol... Some Mars people came n told me .....if u have knowledge of phy , prove other wise.

Should i tell you the name of the canal that you were not able to cross in the out skirt of lahore??
or should i post picture from last days of war where we were in your positions inside indi on lahore boundary??

yes sure... man please post the positions of IA .

At the end of hostilities on 23 September, India retained between 140 square miles / 360 square kilometres of Pakistani territory in the lahore front, including the major villages of Bedian, Barki, Padri, Dograi, Bhasin and Ichhogil uttar along the eastern bank of the Ichhogil canal. Pakistan only gained a small amount of land in Khem Karan, comprising 52 square kilometres

 

[RangeMaster]

we will see if you able to live for first , 2nd and 3rd strike.....

And we will see if you are brave enough to do your 1st strike.

 

[jung41]

India is developing full deterant against any hostile air targets once this objective is fully achieved next target will be to decimate hostile nuclear weapons.