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India becomes world’s largest arms importer

Not to Troll..

But looks like our chinese friends tend to boast a little more than required forgetting the poverty in China.

Poverty in China is often overshadowed by average annual GDP growth rates of 9%. According to World Bank and UN statistics, around 200 million Chinese live on less than US$1.25/day; Bangladesh has a total population of 162 million. Furthermore, 482 million people live on less than US$2/day; greater than the populations of the US, Germany and UK put together. Although many are quick to point to the number of people lifted from poverty in China over the past few decades, poverty reduction is slowing down and a gap is opening up.

Furthermore..

The average income of one of the 750 million who lives in rural China is less than 1/3 of that of a person living in an urban area. Then there are the 35 million, who have an average annual income of US$176. That is equivalent to the population of Canada living on about $0.48 a day. 66% of these extremely poor live in the Western Region and only 5% in the Eastern Region. This rural-urban divide can be found not only in wealth distribution and income, but also across human development indicators in education, health, and gender.


good post my friend.. and you are not trolling at all
that’s a better way to put it. thanks for not falling into personal attack fest like the people above
. as I have mentioned before. the defence spending are hard to defend it when there are people on the streets and below poverty line.
Forget China or India even Western Europe and USA is not immune to such disparity.

It all boils down to what the state perceives as priority. So India is not doing anything unique here. All countries do that. Some do it more some less. India stands out because of its scale of spend.
 
Lol how easily you can make India look like the bad guy while making Pakistan the defender against Indian hegemony ?

Before I could go further I would like to know what is the Indian hegemony that we are talking about here, so that I can phrase my understanding of your last post on that .

read the paragraph again with open eyes this time my sweetness. the answer is there. if you don’t go on the route of troll/ flame fest then maybe you can understand what I meant.


I will say again, with utmost care and kindness, read my post again or just the paragraph again. I hope you wont disappoint me.

And please, refrain from going down the troll campaign. You are a senior member and we all expect better.
 
Not to Troll..

But looks like our chinese friends tend to boast a little more than required forgetting the poverty in China.

Poverty in China is often overshadowed by average annual GDP growth rates of 9%. According to World Bank and UN statistics, around 200 million Chinese live on less than US$1.25/day; Bangladesh has a total population of 162 million. Furthermore, 482 million people live on less than US$2/day; greater than the populations of the US, Germany and UK put together. Although many are quick to point to the number of people lifted from poverty in China over the past few decades, poverty reduction is slowing down and a gap is opening up.

Furthermore..

The average income of one of the 750 million who lives in rural China is less than 1/3 of that of a person living in an urban area. Then there are the 35 million, who have an average annual income of US$176. That is equivalent to the population of Canada living on about $0.48 a day. 66% of these extremely poor live in the Western Region and only 5% in the Eastern Region. This rural-urban divide can be found not only in wealth distribution and income, but also across human development indicators in education, health, and gender.

Unfortunately, we have bad problems with regional disparities. However, one must also consider that their incomes do not include free nonmonetary aid such as rent free housing, free seeds, low cost rent of machinery from the government, tax free income, etc.

It's kind of hard to believe that 482 million live below 2 USD per day including free subsidies. After all, this is the equivalent of 403 RMB per month, less than 1/3 the minimum wage in the cities.

We can also tell that this number does not show the whole story simply due to our far higher average lifespan, literacy rate, electrification rate, etc. While this number may be valid on a pure monetary income basis it is impossible if subsidies are included.
 
Show me Pakistan's first home made jet fighter, tank, rifle, helicopter, attack helicopter, etc, etc. Other then the recent Gyrocopter.


Pakistan isn't the largest importer because you dont have money like India. What do you want India to do? Say sorry that now in India's history 2% of its GDP will end up to be $35 billion? Get used to it, it will increase further.

And at least its trying to build its first helicopters, attack helicopter, tank, jet fighter, carrier, etc. Many nations dont even bother.

I call it jealousy over Pakistan by Indians as usual. :hitwall:
 

India world's biggest arms importer: Think Tank


India has been the world's biggest weapons importer over the last five years, Swedish think-tank SIPRI reported Monday, naming four Asian countries among the top five arms importers.

The report also highlighted how the world's major arms supplying countries had in recent years competed for trade in Libya, and in other Arab countries gripped by the recent wave of pro-democracy uprisings.

"India is the world's largest arms importer," the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) said as it released its latest report on trends in the international arms trade.

"India received nine percent of the volume of international arms transfers during 2006-10, with Russian deliveries accounting for 82 percent of Indian arms imports," it said.

Its arms imports jumped 21 percent from the previous five-year-period with 71 percent of its orders being for aircraft.

India's arms purchases were driven by several factors, said Siemon Wezeman of SIPRI'S Arms Transfers Programme.

"The most often cited relate to rivalries with Pakistan and China as well as internal security challenges,"
he wrote.

China and South Korea held joint second place on the list of global arms imports, each with six percent, followed by Pakistan, on five percent.


Aircraft accounted for 45 percent of Pakistan's arms imports, which had bought warplanes from both China and the United States. Pakistan's arms imports were up 128 percent on the previous five-year period, SIPRI noted.

Greece rounded off the top-five list arms importers, with four percent of global imports.

Since the lifting of a UN arms embargo on Libya in September 2003, Britain, France, Italy and Russia had all competed to win orders from Moamer Kadhafi's regime, said the report.

Kadhafi's forces are currently using tanks, artillery and warplanes to reclaim territory held by the opposition forces.

Egypt had received 60 percent of its major arms imports from the United States between 2006 and 2010, said the SIPRI report.

They included "M-1A1 tanks and M-113 armoured vehicles of the type present during demonstrations in the country in January 2011," it added.

A pro-democracy uprising forced Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak to step down on February 11, after nearly three decades of autocratic rule, after pro-democracy uprising.

But the conflict left at least 384 dead and more than 6,000 injured.

Russia, Montenegro, the Netherlands and China had also supplied weapons to the Mubarak regime, said the SIPRI report.

The United States remained the world's largest military equipment exporter, accounting for 30 percent of global arms exports in 2006-10, 44 percent of which went to to Asia and Oceania, SIPRI said.

The rest of the top five arms suppliers were: Russia, with 23 percent of the total market; Germany (11 percent); France (seven percent); and Britain (four percent).

"There is intense competition between suppliers for big-ticket deals in Asia, the Middle East, North Africa and Latin America," said Dr Paul Holtom, head of the SIPRI Arms Transfers Programme.

He cited the efforts of the Eurofighter consortium to sell their plane across the world against rival warplanes, with competition particuarly fierce for the markets in Brazil and India.

Britain, France, Germany and Italy were also competing for orders for naval equipment from Algeria, noted SIPRI.

The think tank, which specialises in research on conflicts, weapons, arms control and disarmament, was created in 1966 and is 50-percent financed by the Swedish state.

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It's good to know that the world's biggest arms purchaser is about to receive foreign aid from Britain.
man, I thought china was the one.
 
Not to Troll..

But looks like our chinese friends tend to boast a little more than required forgetting the poverty in China.

Poverty in China is often overshadowed by average annual GDP growth rates of 9%. According to World Bank and UN statistics, around 200 million Chinese live on less than US$1.25/day; Bangladesh has a total population of 162 million. Furthermore, 482 million people live on less than US$2/day; greater than the populations of the US, Germany and UK put together. Although many are quick to point to the number of people lifted from poverty in China over the past few decades, poverty reduction is slowing down and a gap is opening up.

Furthermore..

The average income of one of the 750 million who lives in rural China is less than 1/3 of that of a person living in an urban area. Then there are the 35 million, who have an average annual income of US$176. That is equivalent to the population of Canada living on about $0.48 a day. 66% of these extremely poor live in the Western Region and only 5% in the Eastern Region. This rural-urban divide can be found not only in wealth distribution and income, but also across human development indicators in education, health, and gender.

Be interested to see what the date on your source is.
 
Its arms imports jumped 21 percent from the previous five-year-period with 71 percent of its orders being for aircraft.


Aircraft accounted for 45 percent of Pakistan's arms imports, which had bought warplanes from both China and the United States. Pakistan's arms imports were up 128 percent on the previous five-year period, SIPRI noted.

thats all i have to say
 
In other words poor governance.

More like huge population. Any policy change and its effects, takes time to trickle down to each and every town/vilage.

I'm guessing both of you didn't read the report,so let me bring out the important part of it.

*What holds up Indian food consumption today is not any operational inability to produce more food, but a far reaching failure to make the poor of the country able to afford enough food.

*The public expense of the programme of subsidies (estimated, not long ago, at a staggering Rs. 21,000 crores a year) is mainly used to add to the market food prices to raise the incomes of the farmers. i.e approx $4.6 billion.

*India’s unenviable combination of having the worst of undernourishment in the world and the largest of unused food stocks on the globe.

*In fact, much of the subsidy goes into the cost of maintaining a massively large stock of food grains, with a mammoth and unwieldy food administration. Also, since the cutting edge of the price subsidy is to pay farmers to produce more and earn more, rather than to sell existing stocks to consumers at lower prices (that too happens, but only to a limited extent and to restricted groups), the overall effect of food subsidy is more spectacular in transferring money to farmers than in transferring food to the undernourished Indian consumers.
 
Try to develops domestic arms industry LIKE China!!!

Learn at-least SOMETHING from China! gosh.........
 
But its the government who should be blamed for this "mismanagement" right?

Yes!
But then again policies are like trial and error.

For example how our Socialist style economy was a failure.

Over time we learn from our mistakes,if they are repeating it ,then yeah!,they certainly are for blame.
 
I'm guessing both of you didn't read the report,so let me bring out the important part of it.

The whole system might be due for a rethink. The problem might be similar to Africa and western aid there. Though mountains of aid goes into Africa it does little for poverty in those country, what has worked better in some countries is rethinking and restructuring the economic incentive on the ground. Maybe something similar can be done in India.
 
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