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India and Russia going to sign biggest-ever defence deal worth $ 35 billion

As a counterweight, China, Pakistan should sign a similar deal for a advanced fighter jet. :D
Project AZM...watch we will produce our own aircraft before they even get tejas inducted.

I am ready for Indians to jump up nd down now
 
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Another interesting bit is the timelines mentioned both for the Indian prototypes and the actual delivery schedule, also the article mentions that HAL will take up production of the PAK FA.

Fifth Generation Figher plane prototypes have been finalised and test trials have been even conducted and Production line is HAL Nashik. Something that target is around 214 fighter plane for Indian Air Force and Indian Navy.

36billions is a huge amnt, pakistan should respond by investing on more advanced SAMs and get 10,000s of them for less than 0.001% of theyre cost

Indian Establishment has already raised this question with Russian counterparts regarding the S400 to Chinese. Iranians and now Pakistanis. This Air Defenses network is being laid round Republic of India. Seems the Russian and Chinese Military experts will give place some S300 and S400 in Myanmar too.

The article also says HAL will take up the poduction. which is also a good sign.

Production line of Fifth Generation Fighter Plane has been already working in HAL Nashik. Prototypes for both Indian Air Force and Indian Navy are already flying and even docking at floating canteens.

true and as Indian Think Tank/Technical experts made the decision after having a close look on the tests of prototypes of PAK FA, and its also true that US, CHina, Russia+India all are working on this project so its obvious that they have hope, lets see how things go.......

NOT REALLY, REPUBLIC OF INDIA AND UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE HAVING OPTIONS.


Actually.

Given the fact this fighter is atleast 15 years away from induction and deployment on the front lines against Pakistan.

Pakistan should work with China on coming up with a S-400 or S-500 version of aerial defense to neutralize this dangerous threat.

As Indian arrogance grows, its only a matter of time, that they might try to emulate US into launching attacks in Pakistan over suspected militant camps.

Russian/Chinese military experts are already seeing the incapabilities of S300 and S400 and even the long range bombers tactic will be failed in full scale war.
 
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Fifth Generation Figher plane prototypes have been finalised and test trials have been even conducted and Production line is HAL Nashik. Something that target is around 214 fighter plane for Indian Air Force and Indian Navy.



Indian Establishment has already raised this question with Russian counterparts regarding the S400 to Chinese. Iranians and now Pakistanis. This Air Defenses network is being laid round Republic of India. Seems the Russian and Chinese Military experts will give place some S300 and S400 in Myanmar too.



Production line of Fifth Generation Fighter Plane has been already working in HAL Nashik. Prototypes for both Indian Air Force and Indian Navy are already flying and even docking at floating canteens.



NOT REALLY, REPUBLIC OF INDIA AND UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE HAVING OPTIONS.




Russian/Chinese military experts are already seeing the incapabilities of S300 and S400 and even the long range bombers tactic will be failed in full scale war.

Its time to wake up from dream. Currently India don't have any 5th gen in pipeline. You are ill informed in that
 
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This is good news.But why is India and other nations spending on military like there is no tomorrow?
Is WW3 coming in a matter of years?

Here its not about Military spending competition but more Industrial platform and skilled defense workers. Educational foundation is very strong in Republic of India. Innovation after innovation this is what the enemies of Republic of India are afraid of.

are you aware of any kind of spectra kind passive system on FGFA which can be used to guide a bvr missile ?

and why are we going for smaller FGFA rather than original PAKFA ? won't that make it similar to AMCA ?

Astra MKIII and Astra MKIV platforms are already there.

:woot: :woot:

Are u saying that your hope lies on the chiese efforts of copying/stealing and building something like the Russians systems s400 and s500? Which Russia developed decade ago. :rofl:

Russian Federation S400 are having problems in winters according to Russian experts which is linked to heating up of the fuel and starting of the missile engines and they cant keep up the heating because enemies can detect the batterries but what has happened in Syria , when the American 50 Tomahawks missiles knocked down Russian Air Defenses , the loopholes were clearly visible. Chinese Air Defenses are based on similar pattern.

Its time to wake up from dream. Currently India don't have any 5th gen in pipeline. You are ill informed in that

Ministry of Defense of Republic of India has already issued official statement 2 years back about the prototypes and Production line of Fifth Generation Fighter Plane by HAL.
 
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Here its not about Military spending competition but more Industrial platform and skilled defense workers. Educational foundation is very strong in Republic of India. Innovation after innovation this is what the enemies of Republic of India are afraid of.



Astra MKIII and Astra MKIV platforms are already there.



Russian Federation S400 are having problems in winters according to Russian experts which is linked to heating up of the fuel and starting of the missile engines and they cant keep up the heating because enemies can detect the batterries but what has happened in Syria , when the American 50 Tomahawks missiles knocked down Russian Air Defenses , the loopholes were clearly visible. Chinese Air Defenses are based on similar pattern.



Ministry of Defense of Republic of India has already issued official statement 2 years back about the prototypes and Production line of Fifth Generation Fighter Plane by HAL.
Show me which aircraft production you are talking about. India don't even have prototype of any plane till date
 
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you can check in the thread of Rafale fighter jet.
Since when Rafale is 5th gen?. Correct your facts before speak.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale
Plus that deal is also cancel and now India purchasing it in off-the-shelf now including current negotiation of additional 36 more then the original 36 Jets. Which make 4 sqdn in total if deal finalized.
 
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Since when Rafale is 5th gen?. Correct your facts before speak.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Rafale
Plus that deal is also cancel and now India purchasing it in off-the-shelf now including current negotiation of additional 36 more then the original 36 Jets. Which make 4 sqdn in total if deal finalized.

Seems you are not allowed to know thats why you doesnt have the right to read that thread.
 
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NEW DELHI: India's quest for a futuristic stealth fifth-generation fighter, which will see the country spend around $35 billion over the next 20 years in its biggest-ever defence project, has zoomed into the decisive phase now.

India and Russia are getting all set to ink the full and final design or R&D phase contract for the 5th Gen fighter by this year-end or early-2013, say sources. It will again underline India's firm rejection of the US offer of its Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) or the F-35 'Lightning-II'.

Ahead of the R&D contract, under which India wants to induct over 200 stealth fighters from 2022 onwards, a senior team of Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) engineers and IAF experts is going to Russia within a fortnight to ensure that the "full documentation and other work" of the earlier preliminary design contract (PDC) has been completed.

During his visit to Moscow last week, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne reviewed the performance of the 5th Gen fighter, called Sukhoi T-50.

While the Indian fighter will primarily be based on the T-50, it will be tweaked to IAF requirements.

India had inked the $295 million PDC with Russia in December, 2010. The R&D contract on the anvil is pegged at $11 billion, with India and Russia chipping in with $5.5 billion each.

"The three Russian T-50 prototypes have flown around 180 sorties till now. HAL's Ozar facility at Nashik will get three prototypes in 2014, 2017 and 2019...they will be flown by IAF test pilots," said a source.

"Russia has already given the draft R&D contract to us. It will include the cost of designing, infrastructure build-up at Ozar, prototype development and flight testing. So, India will have scientists and test pilots based both in Russia and Ozar during the R&D phase up to 2019. HAL will subsequently begin manufacturing the fighters," he added.

Interestingly, after first specifying the requirement for at least 166 single-seat and 48 twin-seat of these 5th Gen fighters, India is veering around to the view that it will go in for only single-cockpit jets now.

"Both F-35 and T-50 are single-seaters. A second cockpit will compromise the stealth capabilities by at least 15% apart from adding to the weight and reducing fuel capacity. Moreover, R&D costs could go up by another $2 billion for the twin-seater," he said.

IAF is confident the swing-role fighter will meet its future operational needs.

As a critical interim measure and confronted with a declining number of fighter squadrons, IAF also wants the almost $20 billion MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) project to acquire 126 French Rafale fighters to be sealed within this fiscal.

India and Russia going to sign biggest-ever defence deal worth $ 35 billion - The Times of India
From 2012 why is it in new posts ???
 
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