India and NSG-News, Updates and Discussions.

[Djinn]

Last time China showed a good will gesture towards India by allowing it to have the exclusive waiver and how exactly did India respond? Tested a China specific ICBM.

 

[Kraitcorp]

I am glad India didnt get into the NSG the first time, this helps us to improve further. We got to know who supports and who are against us. In the meantime we need wait a little bit more to enhance our economic clout.

Missile Technology Control Regime- Check
Nuclear Suppliers Group - Wavier
Wassenaar Arrangement - Need to pursue
Australia Group - Need to pursue
permanent membership to UN Security Council- should be in between 15-20 years

 

[noksss]

India's NSG seat and UNSC seat are still available...

IF they come to the table for an honest negotiation.

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Let's be frank, China and India are NOT friends. We all know this.

Yet whenever India needs something (NSG/UNSC), they suddenly pretend that they are our friends, and ask for "free favours", like in the case of the NSG.

Then at the same time, they went behind China and did their best to try and guilt/isolate China into supporting their NSG bid, by making deals with every other country besides China. Hoping that foreign pressure would force China to succumb. Sorry, that never works. Only one veto is ever needed, that's how veto power works.

But they never did the thing which could actually give them what they want. Which is to come to the negotiating table and offer us something in return.

For example, India agreed to sign the CISMOA/LSA in return for America getting them the NSG seat (which they failed to deliver). India has never fought a war with America... yet they paid SO much for America's support in the NSG (the biggest payment possible). Did India really expect China to offer the same support for free, considering that we are NOT friends?

You want something, you offer something in return. That's how the world works.

Now let India come and negotiate. We are businessmen after all.

So what Pakistan paid you to support them in all the international forum afterall you chinese are businessmen right?

 

[third eye]

Last time China showed a good will gesture towards India by allowing it to have the exclusive waiver and how exactly did India respond? Tested a China specific ICBM.

Whats a China specific ICBM ??... and what all platforms can that missile be fired from ?

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Its a bit strange that Indian media is targeting only China giving expression that only China is against Indian NSG membership...!

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ndia-nsg-bid-meet-seoul-live-updates-2871865/
Brazil, Austria, New Zealand, Ireland and Turkey have opposed India's NSG bid citing its non-NPT status.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...rt-to-Indias-NSG-bid/articleshow/52897139.cms
Switzerland takes U-turn on its support to India's NSG bid

Tell me buddy, how many of these wanted to support Pakistan

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Believe me, next time use the selfie strategy.

Best strategy ever.

 

[SrNair]

Its a bit strange that Indian media is targeting only China giving expression that only China is against Indian NSG membership...!

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ndia-nsg-bid-meet-seoul-live-updates-2871865/
Brazil, Austria, New Zealand, Ireland and Turkey have opposed India's NSG bid citing its non-NPT status.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...rt-to-Indias-NSG-bid/articleshow/52897139.cms
Switzerland takes U-turn on its support to India's NSG bid

Because this was also one part of our plan .
China directly opposing India was the push India looks for .And Chinese did that ,even though they knows its consequences .Now every action by GoI will have an anti China taste in there .
And more active arms relation with SCS nations especially with Vietnam will happen.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

We don't import anything of strategic value from you & if you think that there aren't substitutes for electronic components then you are dead wrong

As I have stated earlier some cognitive inertia are hard to change and delusions are their much needed reality.


To say that China has any control on a "Made in China" product of a non-Chinese company is as retarded as saying
saying that an Indian company built software for major like Microsoft or Google, the Indian company gets to decides where this built product can be exported to.

The only advantage China enjoys in this case is propagating a supply chain cyber attack.

Funny and hilarious that these people mention replacing Chinese electronics is not possible for India.

When already India imports more than half of its $33 billion electronic imports from nations other than China

Top ten Chinese exports to India
1. Electronic equipment: $13.4 billion
2. Machinery: $10.2 billion
3. Organic chemicals: $5.9 billion
4. Fertilizers: $3.5 billion
5. Iron and steel: $2.3 billion
6. Plastics: $2.1 billion
7. Furniture, lighting, signs: $2 billion
8. Medical, technical equipment: $1.5 billion
9. Iron or steel products: $1.4 billion
10. Vehicles: $1.2 billion

http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_china_exports.html

But for the sake of intellectual sensitivities of Chinese members here lets just pretend entire $235 billion Indian imports is from China.
Even a single "Made in China" product not being exported from China to India will lead to economic collapse of India.

 

[danger007]

Guess where Samsung phones are made?

Guess where all the components inside your smartphone, tablet, PC/laptop came from?

Open them up and look inside.

I hope you read my post once again..

Samsung is not chinese company...

http://www.samsung.com/in/aboutsamsung/samsungelectronics/india/manufacturing.html

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

When already India imports more than half of its $33 billion electronic imports from nations other than China

Why don't you go and open up those electronic products, and see where the components come from?

Open the back of your smartphone and look at the "Made in..." sticker.

Open the back of your laptop, your PC, your tablet. Guess where all the components came from?

I hope you read my post once again..

Samsung is not chinese company...

http://www.samsung.com/in/aboutsamsung/samsungelectronics/india/manufacturing.html

True but their products are made in China.

 

[Kraitcorp]

But for the sake of intellectual sensitivities of Chinese members here lets just pretened entire $235 billion is from China.
A Single "Made in China" product not being exported from China to India will lead to economic collapse of India.

I am sure the BJP govt is making every effort to cut down these imports by introducing 100% FDI. I wonder how many companies have initiated investments. Any info on these

 

[Djinn]

Whats a China specific ICBM ??... and what all platforms can that missile be fired from ?

Quite amusing how the pain of rejection has caused you Indians to redefine everything now . Enough Said..... kindly find someone else who is bored enough to waste time bickering here.

 

[CHD]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154330140987139

 

[third eye]

Quite amusing how the pain of rejection has caused you Indians to redefine everything now . Enough Said..... kindly find someone else who is bored enough to waste time bickering here.

Didnt expect anything better.

 

[SrNair]

Russia won't go against China.
Remember China signed $400 billion gas deal with Russia when russian economy suffered badly and China, Russia are seen pretty much on the same page every time, Well lets see for the official news. As far as Russia is concerned, Putin decisions never made sense.

Donot see things happening in Russia through Pakistani p[erspective .
Because none tries to influence Putin's Russia, that including both US and China .