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In War Season, Beware Of Disinformation Campaigns
Shivam Vij | 22/09/2016

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It's war season again. Like 26/11 or the 2013 border skirmishes in which an Indian soldier was beheaded, we will see a lot of stories and counter-stories, all quoting sources that are Anonymous and Top. We need to take all such stories with large doses of salt.

At the best of times, the Indian media is pro-establishment--particularly on foreign policy. In matters of National Security, the media goes a step further and allows itself to become a mouthpiece of the government.

The only problem is, the government is not a monolith. The political establishment is trying to save its skin from public outrage, the army and intelligence agencies are trying to blame each other, the security establishment inside the government is debating different approaches. All of these silos need the media to put out stories that will benefit that particular branch of the Government of India.

As the Modi government found itself falling under the weight of its own promises of giving it back to Pakistan in the same coin, a Whatsapp forward started doing the rounds since early morning yesterday. Indian special forces, it claimed, had crossed the Line of Control in Uri and killed 20 Pakistani terrorists.

Journalists who received the Whatsapp forward called up the Indian Army spokesperson, who denied it. But even if it was a covert operation the Army can't own up to, Pakistan wouldn't stay silent over it. It is logical that Pakistan would make a lot of noise, protest across the world, say India was provoking a war, and yes, retaliate. That is how it has been in the past.

The Whatsapp forward was obvious disinformation campaign to assuage Indian public outrage that has been demanding exactly such a response. While the defence experts told us that such a response could escalate, it seems it hasn't elicited so much as a whimper from Pakistan. Obviously, the story is fake.

But the Whatsapp forward soon became a story in The Quint. "Two units of the elite 2 Paras comprising 18-20 soldiers flew across the LoC in the Uri sector in military helicopters and carried out an operation that killed at least 20 suspected terrorists across three terror camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (Azad Kashmir)," it said. Beyond this, the story has a lot of conjecture to substantiate its claim. Oh this is why the Pakistanis must have closed down airspace in northern areas for civilian aircrafts, and so on.

When many on Twitter doubted the story, The Quint said they had reconfirmed it.

We can now debate whether or not this story, emanating from a Whatsapp forward, is true. Even a half-credible story like this is good news for the Modi government. Modi supporters can now say look this happened, but the government can't own up to it because it was a covert operation. The focus now shifts away from the Modi government's lack of options to whether or not this story is true.

Where are the body bags?

That's not the only story causing confusion.

To show us that that Uri strike was an exception, there are now a spate of stories telling us of infiltration bids that are being foiled. The media can't go and verify on the Line of Control whether some men were trying to come through to this side and the Indian Army rebuffed them. However, when it is claimed the army gunned down such infiltrators, we should ask the simple question: where are the bodies?

Quoting anonymous army sources, the Press Trust of India and the Indo-Asian News Service put out stories that claimed 8-10 infiltrators were killed near Uri, apart from a jawan.

Now they have put out stories that two days after this alleged encounter, the army is still looking for bodies! If the army hasn't even found bodies in 48 hours, how did PTI and IANS know 8-10 terrorists were killed? It also stretched credulity that Pakistan will attempt infiltration on the same sector, Uri, after Indian alertness there would be at its peak.

Officially, the army continues to be tight-lipped about this claim. Some news channels, meanwhile, upped the claim to 15-20 infiltrators.

Made in La La Land

Various media outlets, including Doordarshan, said the day after the Uri terrorist strike that the weapons found on the slain terrorists bore Pakistani markings. The Indian Express said in a story, quoting unnamed NIA sources, that in fact there were no Pakistani markings on the weapons.

An angry Director General of Military Operations responded that the army had made no such claim. They were right: only the media had.

In other words, the media was used to give the impression that there was conclusive evidence of the Pakistan hand, which, as The Indian Express story suggests, there wasn't.

Who is putting out such big claims in the media, which no officials are willing to back? What is such disinformation campaign achieving?

Another rare critical story, in the Hindustan Times, asked what was the hurry to bury the terrorists. In other terror strikes, bodies of terrorists are reserved for some time, and have even been offered to Pakistan to take back. In fact, the army has said they were foreign terrorists, not Pakistani terrorists. The only GPS handset that survived is being sent to the US to take out its data. The Indian Express story suggests that there isn't yet conclusive evidence that the terrorists crossed the Line of Control.

Is there anything in the news you can believe?


Source: Huffington Post (India)
 
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In War Season, Beware Of Disinformation Campaigns
Shivam Vij | 22/09/2016

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It's war season again. Like 26/11 or the 2013 border skirmishes in which an Indian soldier was beheaded, we will see a lot of stories and counter-stories, all quoting sources that are Anonymous and Top. We need to take all such stories with large doses of salt.

At the best of times, the Indian media is pro-establishment--particularly on foreign policy. In matters of National Security, the media goes a step further and allows itself to become a mouthpiece of the government.

The only problem is, the government is not a monolith. The political establishment is trying to save its skin from public outrage, the army and intelligence agencies are trying to blame each other, the security establishment inside the government is debating different approaches. All of these silos need the media to put out stories that will benefit that particular branch of the Government of India.

As the Modi government found itself falling under the weight of its own promises of giving it back to Pakistan in the same coin, a Whatsapp forward started doing the rounds since early morning yesterday. Indian special forces, it claimed, had crossed the Line of Control in Uri and killed 20 Pakistani terrorists.

Journalists who received the Whatsapp forward called up the Indian Army spokesperson, who denied it. But even if it was a covert operation the Army can't own up to, Pakistan wouldn't stay silent over it. It is logical that Pakistan would make a lot of noise, protest across the world, say India was provoking a war, and yes, retaliate. That is how it has been in the past.

The Whatsapp forward was obvious disinformation campaign to assuage Indian public outrage that has been demanding exactly such a response. While the defence experts told us that such a response could escalate, it seems it hasn't elicited so much as a whimper from Pakistan. Obviously, the story is fake.

But the Whatsapp forward soon became a story in The Quint. "Two units of the elite 2 Paras comprising 18-20 soldiers flew across the LoC in the Uri sector in military helicopters and carried out an operation that killed at least 20 suspected terrorists across three terror camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (Azad Kashmir)," it said. Beyond this, the story has a lot of conjecture to substantiate its claim. Oh this is why the Pakistanis must have closed down airspace in northern areas for civilian aircrafts, and so on.

When many on Twitter doubted the story, The Quint said they had reconfirmed it.

We can now debate whether or not this story, emanating from a Whatsapp forward, is true. Even a half-credible story like this is good news for the Modi government. Modi supporters can now say look this happened, but the government can't own up to it because it was a covert operation. The focus now shifts away from the Modi government's lack of options to whether or not this story is true.

Where are the body bags?

That's not the only story causing confusion.

To show us that that Uri strike was an exception, there are now a spate of stories telling us of infiltration bids that are being foiled. The media can't go and verify on the Line of Control whether some men were trying to come through to this side and the Indian Army rebuffed them. However, when it is claimed the army gunned down such infiltrators, we should ask the simple question: where are the bodies?

Quoting anonymous army sources, the Press Trust of India and the Indo-Asian News Service put out stories that claimed 8-10 infiltrators were killed near Uri, apart from a jawan.

Now they have put out stories that two days after this alleged encounter, the army is still looking for bodies! If the army hasn't even found bodies in 48 hours, how did PTI and IANS know 8-10 terrorists were killed? It also stretched credulity that Pakistan will attempt infiltration on the same sector, Uri, after Indian alertness there would be at its peak.

Officially, the army continues to be tight-lipped about this claim. Some news channels, meanwhile, upped the claim to 15-20 infiltrators.

Made in La La Land

Various media outlets, including Doordarshan, said the day after the Uri terrorist strike that the weapons found on the slain terrorists bore Pakistani markings. The Indian Express said in a story, quoting unnamed NIA sources, that in fact there were no Pakistani markings on the weapons.

An angry Director General of Military Operations responded that the army had made no such claim. They were right: only the media had.

In other words, the media was used to give the impression that there was conclusive evidence of the Pakistan hand, which, as The Indian Express story suggests, there wasn't.

Who is putting out such big claims in the media, which no officials are willing to back? What is such disinformation campaign achieving?

Another rare critical story, in the Hindustan Times, asked what was the hurry to bury the terrorists. In other terror strikes, bodies of terrorists are reserved for some time, and have even been offered to Pakistan to take back. In fact, the army has said they were foreign terrorists, not Pakistani terrorists. The only GPS handset that survived is being sent to the US to take out its data. The Indian Express story suggests that there isn't yet conclusive evidence that the terrorists crossed the Line of Control.

Is there anything in the news you can believe?


Source: Huffington Post (India)

Nothing as such happening but a stunt to tell the voters that their mandate is rightly served as well as there is an action against Uri attack to calm the sentiments. IMO, seems like there is going to be more atrocities in Kashmir by India in the name of such op and such hype is created to divert the focus from injustice in Kashmir and UN development.

Even, for the sake of arguments, if such incident occurred, will be retaliated in time in proper manners as well as would be made public by officials and to the world as well. No need to pay such attention to paid media propaganda houses that are spreading lies.
 
In War Season, Beware Of Disinformation Campaigns
Shivam Vij | 22/09/2016

rWH7s9Q.jpg


It's war season again. Like 26/11 or the 2013 border skirmishes in which an Indian soldier was beheaded, we will see a lot of stories and counter-stories, all quoting sources that are Anonymous and Top. We need to take all such stories with large doses of salt.

At the best of times, the Indian media is pro-establishment--particularly on foreign policy. In matters of National Security, the media goes a step further and allows itself to become a mouthpiece of the government.

The only problem is, the government is not a monolith. The political establishment is trying to save its skin from public outrage, the army and intelligence agencies are trying to blame each other, the security establishment inside the government is debating different approaches. All of these silos need the media to put out stories that will benefit that particular branch of the Government of India.

As the Modi government found itself falling under the weight of its own promises of giving it back to Pakistan in the same coin, a Whatsapp forward started doing the rounds since early morning yesterday. Indian special forces, it claimed, had crossed the Line of Control in Uri and killed 20 Pakistani terrorists.

Journalists who received the Whatsapp forward called up the Indian Army spokesperson, who denied it. But even if it was a covert operation the Army can't own up to, Pakistan wouldn't stay silent over it. It is logical that Pakistan would make a lot of noise, protest across the world, say India was provoking a war, and yes, retaliate. That is how it has been in the past.

The Whatsapp forward was obvious disinformation campaign to assuage Indian public outrage that has been demanding exactly such a response. While the defence experts told us that such a response could escalate, it seems it hasn't elicited so much as a whimper from Pakistan. Obviously, the story is fake.

But the Whatsapp forward soon became a story in The Quint. "Two units of the elite 2 Paras comprising 18-20 soldiers flew across the LoC in the Uri sector in military helicopters and carried out an operation that killed at least 20 suspected terrorists across three terror camps in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (Azad Kashmir)," it said. Beyond this, the story has a lot of conjecture to substantiate its claim. Oh this is why the Pakistanis must have closed down airspace in northern areas for civilian aircrafts, and so on.

When many on Twitter doubted the story, The Quint said they had reconfirmed it.

We can now debate whether or not this story, emanating from a Whatsapp forward, is true. Even a half-credible story like this is good news for the Modi government. Modi supporters can now say look this happened, but the government can't own up to it because it was a covert operation. The focus now shifts away from the Modi government's lack of options to whether or not this story is true.

Where are the body bags?

That's not the only story causing confusion.

To show us that that Uri strike was an exception, there are now a spate of stories telling us of infiltration bids that are being foiled. The media can't go and verify on the Line of Control whether some men were trying to come through to this side and the Indian Army rebuffed them. However, when it is claimed the army gunned down such infiltrators, we should ask the simple question: where are the bodies?

Quoting anonymous army sources, the Press Trust of India and the Indo-Asian News Service put out stories that claimed 8-10 infiltrators were killed near Uri, apart from a jawan.

Now they have put out stories that two days after this alleged encounter, the army is still looking for bodies! If the army hasn't even found bodies in 48 hours, how did PTI and IANS know 8-10 terrorists were killed? It also stretched credulity that Pakistan will attempt infiltration on the same sector, Uri, after Indian alertness there would be at its peak.

Officially, the army continues to be tight-lipped about this claim. Some news channels, meanwhile, upped the claim to 15-20 infiltrators.

Made in La La Land

Various media outlets, including Doordarshan, said the day after the Uri terrorist strike that the weapons found on the slain terrorists bore Pakistani markings. The Indian Express said in a story, quoting unnamed NIA sources, that in fact there were no Pakistani markings on the weapons.

An angry Director General of Military Operations responded that the army had made no such claim. They were right: only the media had.

In other words, the media was used to give the impression that there was conclusive evidence of the Pakistan hand, which, as The Indian Express story suggests, there wasn't.

Who is putting out such big claims in the media, which no officials are willing to back? What is such disinformation campaign achieving?

Another rare critical story, in the Hindustan Times, asked what was the hurry to bury the terrorists. In other terror strikes, bodies of terrorists are reserved for some time, and have even been offered to Pakistan to take back. In fact, the army has said they were foreign terrorists, not Pakistani terrorists. The only GPS handset that survived is being sent to the US to take out its data. The Indian Express story suggests that there isn't yet conclusive evidence that the terrorists crossed the Line of Control.

Is there anything in the news you can believe?


Source: Huffington Post (India)


Good read. But we all know this to be true. You can never believe or trust anything an indian says. They are the most dishonest and deceitful people on earth. Severely prone to lying and dishonesty.

:disagree:

Now Kashmir is disinformation :close_tema:

....time for me to go drink tea enough of ....these folks are from different planet


Think you'll find they're from the planet of the apes.
 
Author forgot to add the uri avenged drama story

Edit...
Oh..he had mentioned it..i missed it
 
I'm surprised to see an Indian author who is sane unlike the clowns of toi, the hindu, hindustan time, times now, ndtv, etc.

Previously there was a time when Hindustan times and ndtv were considered somewhat credible and equivalent to the express Tribune and Dawn News of Pakistan. Now all we see are hooligans becoming the "top sources", authors and journalists who keep the Indian ego satisfied.

This hooliganism of indian media is actually affecting indians more than anyone else because indians are living in fools paradise blindly believing these clowns.
 
Nothing as such happening but a stunt to tell the voters that their mandate is rightly served as well as there is an action against Uri attack to calm the sentiments. IMO, seems like there is going to be more atrocities in Kashmir by India in the name of such op and such hype is created to divert the focus from injustice in Kashmir and UN development.

Even, for the sake of arguments, if such incident occurred, will be retaliated in time in proper manners as well as would be made public by officials and to the world as well. No need to pay such attention to paid media propaganda houses that are spreading lies.
Huffington post another internet blog. Rather news stream media no main stream media reported it

Check the What HM minister of India said
And India official envoy at UN
A word of Internet blogger count nothing over offcial govt line
 
Man it's really scary to think how much false info their media feeds them and we all saw the results of this on twitter their own media is their enemy seriously but happy to see this also came from indian source but who's gonna take this seriously?
 

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