IN MIG-29K + Vikramaditya

[circuitbaba]

We all know that the Mig-29K has a combat raius of 850km.God forbid in terms of war if they r placed 500km east of Mumbai then they can easily attack Gwadar Naval base...In addition to challenge our ships which will do a Naval blockade of Indian oil from Strait of Homruz.....Can
anybody explain what should be our defence strategy aginst that

 

[Super Falcon]

buy Mirage 2000-9 to counter it

 

[Super Falcon]

Manufacturer: Dassault (France) Mikoyan-Gurevich (Russia)
Name: Mirage 2000-5 MiG-29M Fulcrum
Wing Span: 29.95 ft. / 9.13 M 37.27 ft. / 11.36 M
Length: 48.06 ft. / 14.65 M 56.99 ft. / 17.37 M
Height: 17.06 ft. / 5.20 M 15.52 ft. / 4.73 M
Wing Area: 441.32 Sq ft. / 41.00 Sq. M 409.03 Sq ft. / 38.00 Sq M
Aspect Ratio: 2.03 3.4
Weight Empty: 16,535 lb. / 7,500 Kg 24,251 lb. / 11,000 Kg
Takeoff Weight: 23,942 lb. / 10,860 Kg 37,038 lb. / 16,800 Kg
Max Takeoff Weight: 37,479 lb. / 17,000 Kg 44,092 lb. / 20,000 Kg
Powerplant(s): 1x SNECMA M53-P2 turbofan 2x Klimov RD-33K
Military Thrust: 14,400 lb. 24,250 lb.
Max Thrust: 21,400 lb. 38,800 lb.
Total Horsepower/Kilowatts: --- ---
Internal Fuel: 7,055 lb. / 3,200 Kg 9,978 lb. / 4,526 Kg
Fuel Fraction: 0.29 0.27
Combat Thrust/Weight Loading: 0.89 1.62
Max. Thrust/Weight Loading: 0.57 1.04
Kilowatt/ Max. Weight Loading: --- ---
Max. Wt. Wing Loading: 84.92 lb. per Sq. ft.
414.63 Kg / Sq. M 107.80 lb. per Sq. ft.
526.32 Kg / Sq. M
Combat Weight Wing Loading: 54.25 lb. per Sq. ft.
264.88 Kg / Sq. M 90.55 lb. per Sq. ft.
442.11 Kg / Sq. M
VMax High Mach / VMax Low Mach: 2.2+ / 1.2 2.3 / 1.23
Speed: 0 knots; 0 mph; 0 km/h 0 knots; 0 mph; 0 km/h
Operational Ceiling: 60,000 ft. / 18,288 M 55,777 ft. / 17,001 M
Armament: 2x30mm DEFA 554 cannon w/125 rounds each, 6 or 8 MICA AR or IR homers 1x30mm GsH 301 cannon w/100; 4xRVV-AE AR homers and 4xR-77 IR homers
Users: Abu Dhabi, Egypt, France, Greece, India, Peru, Qatar, Taiwan Belarus, Bulgaria, Cuba, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, India, Iran, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Moldova, North Korea, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Syria, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, USA, Uzbekistan, Yemen

 

[Supersonic26]

@ super falcon
hello buddy doesn't india already operating Dasualt mirage 2000-9? Why would pakistan buy something that india already master of it? Doesn't make sence. Its like india picking F-16 for MMRCA. 'Simply suicidable'. As far as i know mig-29K is a new jet fighter similar to mig-35. Its not a jet fighter that can be bullied. Even russia dumping su-33 for mig-29K Buddy.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Mirage 2000 is dead meat in close combat with a MiG 29. I rather suggest P3C with a potent sub force for Sea denial. Mirage 2000 needs to be modified to carry the Harpoon for which Unkil must permit.

 

[booo]

Max. Thrust/Weight Loading: 0.57 1.04

 

[zagahaga]

f 16 block 52 will do the trick

 

[Luftwaffe]

Wrong supersonic26...India operates mirage 2000H/TH clearly not 2000-9 better be updated yes if Pakistan get them we can operate even if India operates or call them selves to master it Hellenic Air Force and turkey both operates F-16s and have mastered it.

 

[pak-yes]

Mirage 2k9 is our best option.And especially the UAE mirages are pretty well upgraded

 

[garibnawaz]

We all know that the Mig-29K has a combat raius of 850km.God forbid in terms of war if they r placed 500km east of Mumbai then they can easily attack Gwadar Naval base...In addition to challenge our ships which will do a Naval blockade of Indian oil from Strait of Homruz.....Can
anybody explain what should be our defence strategy aginst that

There is a difference between range and combat radius.

The range of MiG-29K is 3,000 kms hence they can be launched from deep inside India or even from Dabolim (Goa) and do their work at the locations you have mentioned above.

Super Falcon
Manufacturer: Dassault (France) Mikoyan-Gurevich (Russia)
Name: Mirage 2000-5 MiG-29M Fulcrum

MiG-29K is different than MiG-29M

Here is the data of MiG-29K

General characteristics

Crew: One
Length: 17.3 m (57.76 ft)
Wingspan: 11.99 m (39.34 ft)
Height: 4.40 m (14.44 ft)
Wing area: 43 m² (462 ft²)
Loaded weight: 18,550 kg (40,900 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 24,500 kg (54,000 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Klimov RD-33MK afterburning turbofans, 9,000 kgf (88.3 kN, 19,800 lbf) each

Performance

Maximum speed: Mach 2+ (2,200 km/h, 1,370 mph) At low altitude: 1,400 km/h, 870 mph
Combat radius: 850 km (528 mi)
Ferry range: 3000 km (1,860 mi) with 3 drop tanks
Service ceiling: 17,500 m (57,400 ft)
Rate of climb: initial 330 m/s, average 109 m/s 0-6000 m[32] (65,000 ft/min)
Wing loading: 442 kg/m² (90.5 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.97

Armament

1x 30 mm GSh-30-1 cannon with 100 rounds
8 stations for up to 5,500 kg (12,125 lb)[33] of weapons including
Air to Air Missiles: Eight air-to-air missiles — a mix of infrared homing,semi-active radar homing (SARH) and Active radar homing.

AA-11 "Archer" infrared-guided short range AAM, 30 km,
AA-10 "Alamo" semi-active radar homing medium range AAM, 130 km, Infrared homing medium range AAM, 120 km,
AA-12 "Adder" active radar homing medium range AAM, 100 km,

Air to Surface Missiles:

Kh-25ML semi-active laser guidance with tandem warhead that can penetrate 1 metre (39 in) of concrete, 10 km,
Kh-29T TV-guided air-to-surface missile, 12 km,
Kh-35U long-range active radar air-to-surface missile, 130 km,

Anti-radiation Missile:

Kh-25MP modular anti-radiation variant, 40 km,
Kh-31P passive seeker Anti-radiation missile (ARM), 110 km,

Anti-ship missile:

Kh-31A medium range sea-skimming Anti ship missile, 50 km
Kh-35 long-range active radar homing head Anti ship missile, 130 km,

Bombs:

FAB 500-M62 General-purpose bomb,
FAB-1000, (1,500 kg / 3,300 lb) ,
KAB-500KR electro-optical TV-guided fire and forget bomb

Others:

Flares/Infrared decoys dispenser pod and chaff pod or
Electronic countermeasures (ECM) pod or
Targeting pods or
Drop tanks for ferry flight or extended range/loitering time or
UPAZ refueling unit for aerial refueling system (ARS).

Avionics

Zhuk -ME radar[1]
Infrared search and track system.
SPO-15 Beryoza RWR (Radar warning receiver)

Missions performed

MiG-29K Carrier-Based Single Seat Fighter is intended for:

Day/night strikes with precision-guided weapons
Anti-air warfare
Fighter escort
Close air support
Suppression of enemy air defense
Maritime strike
Reconnaissance
Forward Air Control (Airborne) (FAC(A))
Air-to-Air Refueling

MiG-29KUB Carrier-Based Two-Seat Fighter is intended for:

acquiring and upkeeping the skills in piloting and navigation;
practice of combat operation maneuvers;
performance of combat missions identical to those of the MiG-29K single-seat fighter.

Tanker role
MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB can perform aerial refueling if they are furnished with UPAZ refueling unit. The MiG-29K, unlike the previous MiG-29, is designed so it can be equipped with an aerial refueling system (ARS) or "buddy store" for the refueling of other aircraft.

Radar

Zhuk-AE AESA radarThe Zhuk-ME is an advanced variant of the original N010 Zhuk radar introducing advanced air to surface functions like mapping and terrain following. The radar forms part of the MiG-29K specific equipment. The radar features improved signal processing and has a detection range of up to 120 km vs a 5 m2 RCS target for the export variant, and up to 10 targets tracked and up to 4 attacked at once in air to air mode. The tracking range is 0.83 - 0.85 of the detection range. In air to surface mode the radar can detect a tank from up to 25 km away and a bridge from 120 km away, a naval destroyer could be detected up to 300 km away and up to two surface targets can be tracked at once. The radar has a weight of 220 kg and a scanning area of +/- 85 degrees in azimuth and +56/-40 in elevation. The antenna is an electronically scanned slotted planar array and has a diameter of 624 mm.

The Zhuk-AE radar was developed with modular approach, enabling upgrading existing Zhuk ME radars, deployed in MiG-29 platforms into the phased array equipped Zhuk-AE standard. India is already operating the BAR phased array radar on its Su-30MKI and has specified AESA as a critical element of the MRCA platform. The MiG-35 is a contender with the Eurofighter Typhoon, F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale, JAS 39 Gripen and F-16 Falcon for the bid of more than 126 multirole combat aircraft to be procured by the Indian Air Force in Indian MRCA competition. There were some reports that the optional Mig 29K/KUB for India are offered with Zhuk AE.

GB

 

[jha]

me waiting for the fulcrums on vikramiaditya... that would be a relly soothing sight...

 

[Myth_buster_1]

No need for a knee jerk reaction here.
IN is building a strong naval air fleet consisting of fixed and rotor aircrafts. We all can share our opinion and in my opinion after 2015 when Mirage-5 life in PAF is over it should be replaced by a dedicated naval JF-17 squadron. As mentioned by various sources PN has a desire to raise another squadron of MRCA and IMO it should be Chinese J-11C. I believe their are about 3 squadron of PAF for naval support all consisting of nothing but mirages. At least one squadron must be replaced by Rafales and the rest by JF-17s.
So JF-17s
J-11
Rafales should do the trick.
and not to forget 18-36 block 52+ stationed not so far away from Arabian sea which may work as stop gap with Harpoons once PAF/PN southern air command gets in better shape.

 

[TaimiKhan]

More and more subs, with stealthy Type-022 kind of FACs would be a best option to keep Indian Navy far away from our shores with good chance of keeping our sea lanes open and shore line safe to the possible extent. And atleast 2-3 Sqds of dedicated twin engine based fighter aircrafts would be good to back up the naval forces.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Ok how about modified JF-17s with CFTs and air refueling capabilities atleast initially a couple of squadrons...

"We need dash 9 Mirages agree with me"

 

[RobbieS]

Just out of curiosity here, what are/could be the key differences between a PAF JF-17 and a PN JF-17? As they both will be essentially land based, since PN doesn't plan to operate a carrier, will there be any substantial difference in avionics, armaments etc.?