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ok i get what you're trying to say now. ya china needs to step up protection of IPs. however, your view is overly simplistic. IP patents aren't necessary good for innovation. infact, more often then not they stifle innovation.

:tup: Why do you think IP patents stifle innovation?
 
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:tup: Why do you think IP patents stifle innovation?

Because they limit people from making improvements on an already patented idea and force people to reinvent the wheel every time they want to make a tiny change.
 
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Since its most likely state sponsored, HOW CAN YOU EXPECT THE US TO TRUST HUWAIE?!!

Go do some research before you do your stupid troll here. The same case like boeing and GE ,they have also sponsored by the state,so do you mean the chinese should not let them enter the chinese market?Lastly,go check the recent news about the Huawei,they already have their own business in many europes country.You are just a stupid idiot nuts without any prove but just to troll around.
 
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two things HUAWEi can do
1-file a complaint to WTO (china) for protectionism act
2-sue the U.S government for mixing politics into private business deal
win or not is not a big deal, but making a big noise to the world and it will be a big EMBARRASSMENT to the U.S. so next time, they will be more honest in making a decision :china:

They do,the CEO already send their open letter to urge for open investigation to their company.
 
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China's Huawei seeks US government probe

CHINA'S telecom giant Huawei has urged the US government to investigate the company, arguing "unfounded accusations" and "falsehoods" had jeopardised its operations in the United States.

Huawei said this week it had taken the "difficult decision" to abandon its acquisition of US computer firm 3Leaf Systems after the US Committee on Foreign Investment voiced security concerns about the deal.

"We sincerely hope that the United States government will carry out a formal investigation on any concerns it may have about Huawei," deputy chairman Ken Hu said in a 2,100-word letter posted on the company's website.

In the letter, Hu said Huawei's business in the United States has been impacted by "a number of misperceptions" over the past decade. He again rejected accusations it was closely connected to the Chinese military and backed by the government.

Huawei, founded 23 years ago by Ren Zhengfei, a former People's Liberation Army engineer, is at the forefront of efforts by Chinese firms to shift from being the world's workshop to becoming creators of genuine global brands.

It has long rejected claims that it has ties to the Chinese military. Huawei says it is owned by its employees and that Ren, its chief executive, has less than a two percent stake in the company.

"Mr Ren is just one of the many CEOs around the world who have served in the military," Hu said in the letter. Huawei only offers telecommunication equipment in line with civil standards, he added.

"No one has ever offered any evidence that Huawei has been involved in any military technologies at any time."


However, in a letter to US Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, a group of lawmakers accused Huawei of having "ties with the People's Liberation Army, the Taliban, and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard".

But Hu said there was "no evidence that Huawei has violated any security rules".

"The allegation that Huawei somehow poses a threat to the national security of the United States has centred on a mistaken belief that our company can use our technology to steal confidential information ... or launch network attacks," Hu said.

Huawei's consumer products include smartphones that run on Google's Android platform and technology to connect laptops to the Internet using 3G networks.

Its technology is also used to build mobile phone networks around the world. The company has reportedly offered to install for free a network worth £50 million ($80.6 million) on the London Underground train system in time for the 2012 Olympics.

3Leaf makes software that allows computer resources to be reallocated according to a user's needs across a computer network.
 
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This whole affair shows the paranoia and ignorance of American regulators. They buy into conspiracy theories about how Huawei can bug US telecom equipment. I suppose then I should be worried that my PC is bugged by the CIA. Those paranoia belong in mental institutions, not in public dialogue.
 
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This whole affair shows the paranoia and ignorance of American regulators. They buy into conspiracy theories about how Huawei can bug US telecom equipment. I suppose then I should be worried that my PC is bugged by the CIA. Those paranoia belong in mental institutions, not in public dialogue.

You mean your computer is not wrapped in tin foil? What are you thinking man! Do it quick before you read your keystrokes.
 
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Huawei is a telecommunications firm and they are simply not going to get the security clearance to operate here. We wont have problems with Chinese trains here but communications is a no go area. We also refused to grant license to Dubai Ports World to operate the NY/NJ ports citing sensitive issues. There is history and precedent.
 
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Huawei is a telecommunications firm and they are simply not going to get the security clearance to operate here. We wont have problems with Chinese trains here but communications is a no go area. We also refused to grant license to Dubai Ports World to operate the NY/NJ ports citing sensitive issues. There is history and precedent.

I didn't know we have a government official posting here. I'm sure one of the Chinese members will pass it on to President Hu right away.
 
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Except there is no precedent. Huawei is offering to let US security firms complete authority to investigate.

Precedent meaning Chinese trying to hack with Pentagon/NSA systems as part of the cyber warfare project. I doubt if the US would provide security clearance for Chinese equipment after such obvious hacks from China. Not to mention hacking Gmail to access enail accounts of liberal activists. There is very little confidence in China's posture.
 
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Precedent meaning Chinese trying to hack with Pentagon/NSA systems as part of the cyber warfare project. I doubt if the US would provide security clearance for Chinese equipment after such obvious hacks from China. Not to mention hacking Gmail to access enail accounts of liberal activists. There is very little confidence in China's posture.

I'm sure pentagon tries to hack Chinese systems as well. It's not our fault they are crap it.

As for the obvious hack people from US can use Chinese servers to hack US systems as well. Finding the servers are useless unless they can find the original source which they haven't.

As for confidence unless they can prove that Huawei is helping the Chinese government when given the opportunity any further blockings will be regarded as protectionism and brought before the WTO.
 
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WTO...you'll lose. The first thing would be to let your currency appreciate. In fact we are justified in adopting protectionist measures due to China's currency manipulation. Being that, China cannot bring any disputes to WTO.
 
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