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Imran Khan: Why The West Craves Materialism & Why The East Sticks To Religion

That claim is actually nonsense. Mr.Imran Khan is confusing personal morality in respect to sexual attitudes with a larger public morality. It could be argued that as Europeans have become less religious, the society has redefined morality to exclude religious bias and is actually more fair.

As I have said earlier, no religion has a monopoly over morality. An atheist can be more moral and ethical than a religious person. Religious people can be as violent as militant atheists. The same can be applied in reverse.

It is the person that matters.
 
I think when he talks about "the east", he means the Muslim world.


A lot of indians are becoming athiests these days, especially the younger generations of indians.


We call india, a west wannabe.

you are wrong, we are not west wannabe.

India's attraction towards science and mathematic is not new....
Science and religion can't go together.We believe in science because we want to grab the future..
GOD IS ONE AND HE IS EVERYWHERE SO WHY FIGHTING FOR IT AND IN THE NAME OF GOD
 
I think when he talks about "the east", he means the Muslim world.


A lot of indians are becoming athiests these days, especially the younger generations of indians.


We call india, a west wannabe.


Well! We can't be a "East" wannabe now, can we? It's a case of "been there, done that".

BTW if you were so comfortable with your identity, why would you feel the need to call Indians anything? You know very little about Indian religions or history. Buddhism & Jainism, two great Indian religions are atheistic and have no interest in God. Hinduism also has an atheistic component in it. No need to import that particular concept from anywhere else. Our first Prime Minister was an atheist. At least 13 members in the present cabinet took their oath of secrecy omitting the reference to God and instead referring to their conscience.
 
As I have said earlier, no religion has a monopoly over morality. An atheist can be more moral and ethical than a religious person. Religious people can be as violent as militant atheists. The same can be applied in reverse.

It is the person that matters.


I agree with most except for the part of militant atheists. Please define that. In my view it should only be used for an atheist who is militant because of atheism and not because he is an atheist who also subscribes to other philosophies(communism etc.). I'm yet to hear a case of the former.
 
atheists are the most trust worthy and noble people on earth
Millions if not billions have died in the name of god and usually religious people are violent and 9 times out of 10 they're either Muslim or christian.
 
I agree with most except for the part of militant atheists. Please define that.

Militant like not necessarily terrorist. Hostility towards religion classifies as militant atheism. This hostility has had led to clashes many times. State bans on religion (Albania, early Chinese and Soviet prosecutions, Cambodia under Khmer) can be said to be the state versions of this idea. Aggressive Secularism is in the same breath as well.

Damn, I'm forced to refer to Wiki this time for a link.

Militant atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Hostility towards religion classifies as militant atheism.

Most religions are hostile to religions other than their own. Would they all classify for that tag? As Dawkins said "most people are atheistic with respect to all gods but one (their own)"

This hostility has had led to clashes many times. State bans on religion (Albania, early Chinese and Soviet prosecutions, Cambodia under Khmer) can be said to be the state versions of this idea. Aggressive Secularism is in the same breath as well.

All of these countries had an underlying philosophy of communism which was the driving factor behind those clashes. Not sure that it qualifies as militant atheism in its actual sense.
 
The west has "Material" and the East largely sticks to religion because they don't have it. As our societies change, so do we. The west stuck to religion for a very long time. As societies become more liberal people no longer accept everything that was stuffed down their throats. The same change is slowly seen in the "East.
Spanked...!!! And you did spanked big time. Straight to the point. :tup:
 
I think when he talks about "the east", he means the Muslim world.


A lot of indians are becoming athiests these days, especially the younger generations of indians.


We call india, a west wannabe.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

here is a joke from Omar. India is a west wannabe for the sake of development, improvement in living conditions. Such twisted judgmental remarks are not required. if you don;t know ask :lol:
 
I think when he talks about "the east", he means the Muslim world.


A lot of indians are becoming athiests these days, especially the younger generations of indians.


We call india, a west wannabe.



Atheism is a thousand of years old concept in india, i'll say West is following atheism from indian philosophy.

In our society we have synergy, we accepted everything and evolved to a new generation.

there are thousands of hindu philosophical branches, "charvak" is one of them.

you need to be educated, check this out

C?rv?ka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I do not understand how religion and families are related?. Can't an athist or a secular guy have a good family life? The issue here is the over emphasis of any religion on anyones life, like compoulsoury religious study in schools.. religions determining marriages... religion determining how we interact with people..religion determining the way we dress... and conduct ourselves.. \!! belief has to be there of a god almighty. other than that any thing if it is too much is going to be bad, be it religion or anything.

I think imran is still in that transistionary stage.. he is into politics now and i believe he would be thinking of using religion to gain votes or have base among masses...!!!
 
Answer this (for yourselves):

HOW DO YOU DEFINE SPIRITUALITY? IS IT:

-- Dogmatic beliefs no centered around empirical evidence?

-- Superstition in a 'heavenly maker' in the sky?

-- Belief in reincarnation?

-- Non-belief?

-- Blind faith in ridiculous fairy tales?

What exactly constitutes faith? religion? belief? How is it that we can KNOW what we believe is the "TRUTH"? Different religions 'claim' to possess the truth (often times the complete truth), the answers to life's most important questions. But there are many contradictions between different faiths and within each.

Since all knowledge is partial, limited and with doubts, then all fields of endeavor can constitute 'faith' and hence spirituality/religion.
 

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