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Imran Khan to lead a national government under army direction

I am looking for:

1) Retain current assembly, which has been legitimately elected in a free and fair democratic election. This is the essence of democracy, not the President.
2) Army to find credible technocratic replacements for the key slots (e.g. President etc.) and pitching them to the existing set of MNAs.
3) Get these guys elected, ala Shaukat Aziz being elected on a vacated seat.
4) Replace current figureheads who have lost the support of the masses with the new, more credible, more palatable technocrats.

This will do wonders for the people's morale while maintaining democratic order.

As for me trusting the Army 100%, I mean that they have Pakistan's best interest at heart. I would trust their decisions.

Looks like I misunderstood your post then. Was shocked to say the least. Thanks for clarifying.

Net, you are talking about someone forcing the majority party to select the right leaders instead of power brokers of today..?
 
Nothing either painful or funny. It is plain fact.

And Musharraf hasn't gone anywhere. The changes he made in Pakistan are indelible. Despite all the issues, Pakistan is continuing to grow and the middle class that was created under his watch will transform the country for the better. That is basically what you are seeing here.

In the '90s we lived with corrupt governments for a decade. Now, our patience is running thin in just under 2 years. And we believe we have the power to throw them out. If you can't see empowerment and change in that, then I don't know what democratic empowerment is.

And this ability to throw away the bad govt is the crux of democracy. Which may not be a that easy an option under a rule managed by the Army. Imagine gettting a Zia instead of Musharraf this time around...
 
PML-N worker is saying similar stuff inARABNEWS letter today

Nature is angry; so is the public - Arab News
For millennia, Nature has been working in her own coordinated but mysterious ways. According to “butterfly affect”, it can bring a tornado in Florida from flapping of a butterfly’s wing in Beijing. The unchecked industrial development in recent centuries has put this coordination in jeopardy. For example, a group of scientists links the devastating floods in Pakistan, the scorching forest fire in Russia, and the torrential rains in China with the man-made global warming. According to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), this year is the warmest since reliable temperature records began in the mid-19th century.

The shattering heat wave in Russia has brought the worst drought in decades, which has disturbed world grain markets, driving wheat prices up at the fastest rate in more than 30 years. It made Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin announce a grain export ban from Aug. 15 to Dec. 31. The heat wave also led to forest fires that have brought human miseries and death. The smoke from fires is likely to stoke global warming by hastening a thaw of Arctic ice causing unprecedented rains. It may also dust Himalayan glaciers with black soot that absorbs more heat than reflective snow and ice and so speeds a thaw causing floods in countries such as Pakistan.

It is the same story in China, where nearly 1,500 people have died in mudslides and flooding caused by heavy rains due, primarily, to a build-up of greenhouse gases from fossil fuels by releasing the heat-trapping carbon dioxide.

A second group of scientists, influenced by the corporate authorities and backed by American mindset do not agree with this theory. They say it is impossible to pin the blame solely on burning of fossil fuels. To support their view they argue that one cause of a shift in monsoon rains in Asia seem to be a knock-on effect of La Nina that causes natural cooling of the Pacific region thus clearing field for torrential rains. They also argue that El Nino — the male counterpart of La Nina — causes periods of dry spells and massive oceanic storms. They term the whole phenomenon as normal periodic turns of nature. Coming under increasing pressure from the followers of this group, the US Senate majority leader Harry Reid abandoned Climate Change Legislation in July this year. One should remember that the United States, the No. 2 largest greenhouse gas emitter behind China, is the only major industrialized nation with no law to cut emissions.

It is ominous to see the corporate-backed scientists are working as double-edged swords supporting projects that interfere in the normal working of nature on the one hand and blaming the normal phenomena of nature to protect the man-made damaging tools on the other hand. Crudely speaking, it muffles any difference between the mindset of these liberal scientists and the narrow-minded Taleban. Both are twisting facts to suit their individual commitments — for material gains by the former and religious satisfaction by the latter. No wonder the Taleban in Swat have been telling the flood victims that they have been punished by Allah for what they did to Taleban by supporting the infidels.

Without pondering further over how the ultramodern scientists are construing the laws of nature or how the conservative Taleban are interpreting the working of Allah, let me concentrate on the nature-related floods in Pakistan and the consequences. According to a report, “the floods in Pakistan have been devastating. They’re worse than the Southeast Asia tsunami and the Haiti earthquake.” Over 20 million people have been affected by the flooding, and several thousands have died. Villages that had yet to fully recover from a devastating 2005 earthquake have been essentially washed away. And the rain continues to pour, destroying more lives and keeping rescue efforts from proceeding. Food prices in Pakistan have quadrupled, making basic nutrition unattainable for many. Even after the rain stops in Pakistan, these tragic events will continue to pile up casualties from starvation and disease.

The democratic government so far has not left a meaningful impression on the public as far as their day-to-day life is concerned. They find that the prices of normal commodities have soared, their income capacity has shrunken, the poverty has increased, their personal security has diminished and communal despondency has mushroomed. On the government side, they see that the good governance has vanished, its authority has melted, the corruption in its departments has multiplied, the law and order has disintegrated and the terrorism has spiraled up. In a nutshell, the government has lost its credibility, control and trust among the public.



With this poor record, it is faced with having over 20 million people affected directly by the floods. The number sharply rises if one counts its indirect effects surpassing the number of critical mass required to bring a change in a society. The angry nature has played its role to pinch the public where it hurts. It’s up to the democratic government to heal their physical wounds and emotional bruises.

History tells us that in the devastation caused by World War II, Germany and Japan recovered well with help of the world community. But after poor implementation of the funds in post-earthquake development projects, the world response this time seems lukewarm.

Discussions have already started in print and electronic media in favor and against the results of relief provided to the earthquake victims. This time, the public will not take it lying down. After seeing the dismal response from the highest leadership during the initial days of the floods, the public sentiments have already steamed up. Soon, they will start shouting for food, water, shelter and basic amenities. The verbal promises by the leadership will not satisfy them. They will demand results. The vibrant media will be ready to project their anger and demands even with exaggeration. Would the government with its long list of poor record be able to satisfy them? This is the sixty four thousand dollar question.

What will happen if the government fails? Would it be its downfall? If so, would there be a repeat of previous practices replacing one lethargic government with another civilian or military regime? Or would it be different this time? And what would be the role of revived judiciary? Would it sit quietly and let the country take a nosedive? Many won’t agree with that. So what are the alternatives? A military takeover, a bloody revolution, or an unprecedented change spearheaded by judiciary? The army is already overstretched in eliminating terrorism; so military takeover is unlikely. The possibility of a bloody revolution cannot be excluded but there is no example in our history. This leaves us with the third option. Judiciary knows that it owes its revival to the public uprising and vast majority of the public expects judiciary to cleanse the rotten democratic system. It can oblige public wishes by installing a national government with help of the army — comprising of honest politicians, upright technocrats and competent civilians.

The new setup will have the last chance to purify democracy through a bloodless change — by putting the country on post-flood development track (which should be seen as done), by cleansing the lower judiciary (the higher has already been cleansed), by pursuing the new and pending cases of people involved in corrupt practices from present or previous governments or nongovernmental institutions to legally conclusive ends, by recovering the stolen money in any form or shape from cheaters, by installing an honest and independent election commission and by letting the army hunt the terrorists until the government writ in every part of the country was restored.

It doesn’t matter how long it takes for the installed government to continue provided it shows the public that the job is properly done and it proves to the foreign governments and funding agencies that their funds are well spent. Let the people be the judges of the government in a real sense rather than vice versa as seen so far through sham democratic practices and engineered electioneering that ignored the public psyche.

The ball is in the court of the government that is facing not only the angry public but also the irritated Mother Nature.

Presently;

— Dr. Ghayur Ayub is adviser on health affairs to Mohammad Nawaz Sharif

and member of the Central Organizing Committee (COC), Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N)
 
Previous reports suggesting that the army is taking over are turning out be true but not in terms of martial law. My highly placed sources in the army, media and bureaucracy say that a national government headed by Imran Khan is to be implemented under the direction of the army. Rumours about this are already circulating in the government and due to this PPP is under intense pressure. The Supreme Court will lawfully allow the army to take over and this news is 100% correct. Initial working has been done and Imran Khan is being groomed for becoming the next President of Pakistan.

:victory: :pakistan:

Perhaps this news can give a hint
:Imran Khan backs army rule, too,8/24/2010 11:19:44 AM

Please note that MQM would have never given such a statement regarding martial law unless it was sure that something big is coming.


PTI has denied that Imran wants army to take over and Imran himself has gone on the back foot regarding this issue.

What do you have to say now?
 
IK is the William Hague of Pakistani politics, always the bride's maid and never the bride.
 
PTI has denied that Imran wants army to take over and Imran himself has gone on the back foot regarding this issue.

What do you have to say now?

The previuse report was totaly false he never said of army take over he said that if there is a chaos the army would be called for help to stabilise things and that thing PTI will support...
 
Imran Khan Promises to increase tax collection to double, justices for every one. His government will ask every one to prove your wealth.
 
1. Imran Khan has been doing the right things; and saying the right things so far. He is no politician if judged by what a politician in Pakistan has come to mean. But as a chief of a national govt, he will be a top candidate because he has been clean.

2. It may not be out of place to highlight the fact that IK is the father of Jewish children. Just like Dr Yunus of BD is the father of a Jewish daughter. There are more if you look around.

3. And if by that time Raul Gandhi, who was initially christened a Catholic, becomes the PM of India, then both of them might "broker" a deal on Kashmir. And Nobel Prize goes to those who are connected to Jews (like Dr Yunus, Prof Amritya Sen and a host of others) and a Catholic, who by that time, would have married a Colombian girl. (Unless he has already done so secretly! And is she Jew; we don't know.)
 
1. Imran Khan has been doing the right things; and saying the right things so far. He is no politician if judged by what a politician in Pakistan has come to mean. But as a chief of a national govt, he will be a top candidate because he has been clean.

2. It may not be out of place to highlight the fact that IK is the father of Jewish children. Just like Dr Yunus of BD is the father of a Jewish daughter. There are more if you look around.

3. And if by that time Raul Gandhi, who was initially christened a Catholic, becomes the PM of India, then both of them might "broker" a deal on Kashmir. And Nobel Prize goes to those who are connected to Jews (like Dr Yunus, Prof Amritya Sen and a host of others) and a Catholic, who by that time, would have married a Colombian girl. (Unless he has already done so secretly! And is she Jew; we don't know.)

they are brought up as muslims, as agreed between IK and his ex. (might not be with accordance to our strick definitation)

anyways he is the only true Nationalist Leader Pakistan has right now...
 
Previous reports suggesting that the army is taking over are turning out be true but not in terms of martial law. My highly placed sources in the army, media and bureaucracy say that a national government headed by Imran Khan is to be implemented under the direction of the army. Rumours about this are already circulating in the government and due to this PPP is under intense pressure. The Supreme Court will lawfully allow the army to take over and this news is 100% correct. Initial working has been done and Imran Khan is being groomed for becoming the next President of Pakistan.

:victory: :pakistan:

Perhaps this news can give a hint
:Imran Khan backs army rule, too,8/24/2010 11:19:44 AM

Please note that MQM would have never given such a statement regarding martial law unless it was sure that something big is coming.

When is this going to happen?

What does your highly place source have to say?
 
When is this going to happen?

What does your highly place source have to say?

it was all a propaganda against PTI and Imran khan, and some still believe this crap, if you have seen him addressing Kiyani, he looked like a commander in chief of the armed forces at that moment, a true soldier...
 
they are brought up as muslims, as agreed between IK and his ex. (might not be with accordance to our strick definitation)

anyways he is the only true Nationalist Leader Pakistan has right now...

To be a Jew the mother must be a Jew; never mind what the father is. And the Zionists keep a close track of their seeds. Interestingly, for the last few decades they have been claiming the Indian Mizos to be a lost Jewish tribe. Actually 15 Mizo families were taken to Israel and settled there about 20 years back. So we have a problem here for IK. Let us not forget Jemima's family is very powerful with international clout. And agreements between parents hardly matter when the kids grow up. Problem indeed for IK.
 
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