Imran Khan: If elected, we’ll create an Islamic welfare state

[Ali.009]

Making Pakistan a wellfare state and blabbering to end corruption by standing on the shoulders of all the ex-corrupt leaders of PPP, PML-N, PML-Q etc etc? How funny!

 

[Ali.009]

There's no harm in dreaming. Would be a miracle if PTI scores over 10 seats in next elections, let alone ''sweep'' the elections. Who's gonna pay taxes in this Banana Republic? And taxes is pretty much all he's relying on.

I agree. To collect tax'es, one first have to improve the economy, create employment, increase per capita income, so people will be able to earn and pay taxes, but sadly, one can't see any economic reforms PTI has to offer? They are all gas. The only thing he talks about is his world cup, the match in which his performance was nill and Shaukat khanam, an institute developed over a period of many years by money he acquired begging all over the world and which has yet to produce profits!

Many of the so called PTI supporters are illiterate youth, they dont even know about the party's manifesto. They are not even aware of the senior party leadership. They just want change! CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE! = OBAMA's slogan. PTI = CIA funded hoax of the decade.

 

[indushek]

I don't think he is being dishonest. At most you could say he is avoiding being too specific on controversial issues. He will honor Islamic values. If someone thinks Islamic values require the hudood ordinance or mandatory burqas, they are in for a surprise, simply because mainstream Pakistani society -- especially IK's base which is progressive, educated youth and urbanites -- will not tolerate it.

I second your opinion and was actually saying the same thing, i didn't like Asim going on the defensive immediately with the word 'Islamic' there is nothing wrong in what Imran Khan has said there. I think that he is becoming more of a politician (in positive sense since u should know how to do politics for success), by not saying things too openly and trying to rope in the orthodox bunch too.

After all being Islamic (in true sense but not the twisted version peddled in media) in Pakistan, is your connection to your roots as your country is majority Muslim. You can't become a great leader just by wearing posh wear and talking slick language and chanting 'do all good' quotes. In politics its not the minority 'middle class' that matters as they don't vote much or don't weigh much in terms of effect. It is the lower classes who vote more actually (irony being they are less educated but know the value of vote more than educated classes) and these guys might be orthodox along with liberals. You have to play for both, while actually doing what you want to do.

Imran khan might be the 'Pied piper of Pakistan' without that twisted end.

 

[BATMAN]

Well at least he has some revolutionary plans in his head.

What had Sharif and Ghadari clans offered Pakistan in their past and present rules?

 

[Ali.009]

Well at least he has some revolutionary plans in his head.

Why is that only PTI supports know his mighty revolutionary plans and they are not made public?

This is what i read about those out of this world plans on PTI website :

What exactly is the economic plan?

This is work in progress. We have developed a basic framework to improve the economy which is actively being worked upon by our think tanks, an overview is due to be presented shortly in a handbook form listing our directional thrust, which will be backed by a full financial plan in May 2013.

Heck, PTI does not even have a economic plan, let alone anything else. Why any sane person would go head over heels for them when they don't even tell how they'r going to save this nation and collect taxes when there is no economy to extract taxes from!!! Pakistani nation loves hero worshiping.

 

[truthseer]

He shouldnt allow women to run around wearing normal clothes. He should make them wear TENTS! -er I mean burkas

Ik said in To the Point that he'd put no rules about women's clothing (Though he didn't say he wouldn't make rules about lack of the same )

 

[truthseer]

Bhai,
Pakistan is a nation with global significance. What happens in your nation will make its effect in the world specially in india. We aren't bothered about what happens in Nauru or Burundi as it won't affect us in anyway. But pakistan is not in the same side. BTW,kindly reply in english bro!

It will not unless the leaders specifically say they will do something to your country. By the way, love the fear
As for the English jab you made at my brother, let me point out a few grammatical errors you made
Firstly, India will be capitalized since it's a proper noun. Secondly, your second sentence should be:
"What happens in your nation will have a effect on the world especially in India."

Thirdly, Pakistan is also a proper noun and has to be capitalized. Fourthly, it should be:
"But Pakistan is not the same/But Pakistan is not in the same situation."

Kindly reply in proper English please.

 

[474474]

Ik said in To the Point that he'd put no rules about women's clothing (Though he didn't say he wouldn't make rules about lack of the same )

I was being sarcastic, you sick mullah minded creature. Freedom means complete freedom(i mean not in the streets) we cant dream to make pakistan a tourist place without such freedoms

 

[Developereo]

I second your opinion and was actually saying the same thing, i didn't like Asim going on the defensive immediately with the word 'Islamic' there is nothing wrong in what Imran Khan has said there. I think that he is becoming more of a politician (in positive sense since u should know how to do politics for success), by not saying things too openly and trying to rope in the orthodox bunch too.

After all being Islamic (in true sense but not the twisted version peddled in media) in Pakistan, is your connection to your roots as your country is majority Muslim. You can't become a great leader just by wearing posh wear and talking slick language and chanting 'do all good' quotes. In politics its not the minority 'middle class' that matters as they don't vote much or don't weigh much in terms of effect. It is the lower classes who vote more actually (irony being they are less educated but know the value of vote more than educated classes) and these guys might be orthodox along with liberals. You have to play for both, while actually doing what you want to do.

Imran khan might be the 'Pied piper of Pakistan' without that twisted end.

But Imran Khan's appeal to the educated middle class also includes his proud embrace of an Islamic identity -- it's not just for the religious poor. The liberal fascists, as we call them, in Pakistan have swallowed the Western caricature of equating "Islamic" with extremist. They are so ashamed of their identity and desperate for Western approval, they cringe with shame every time a Pakistani wears a hijab or has a beard or says the word "Allah hafiz". They are the opposite extreme of the religious extremists, and Imran Khan has sensed the pulse of the nation to steer a middle course between these two extremist groups.

I'll give you a non-Islamic example that we can both identify with. As you know, we eat with our hands. This is our culture, our tradition, and nobody thinks twice about it. When some south Asians go to the West, they feel they have to use cutlery at every occasion and must never use their hands. Watching these hapless souls is always fun. After some time, people realize how silly this is and there is nothing wrong to use our traditions proudly, even in the finest Indian restaurant. (Obviously you wouldn't eat spaghetti with the hands.)

 

[truthseer]

I was being sarcastic, you sick mullah minded creature. Freedom means complete freedom(i mean not in the streets) we cant dream to make pakistan a tourist place without such freedoms

I'm Mullah minded? That's hilarious. I'm as liberal as anyone but I realise that there is a need for limits. Though really, there should be rules about lack of clothing. You want people to walk around naked?

 

[Ali.009]

But Imran Khan's appeal to the educated middle class also includes his proud embrace of an Islamic identity -- it's not just for the religious poor.

Lets stop worshiping IK's persona for 2 minutes here and lets talk about his economic policies, he claims to create Pakistan a 'welfare' state, how he intends to do that? He has been in politics for past 15 years, he must have a bloody good plan for that =D please open up the PTI's pandora box and show me the goodies inside.

 

[indushek]

But Imran Khan's appeal to the educated middle class also includes his proud embrace of an Islamic identity -- it's not just for the religious poor. The liberal fascists, as we call them, in Pakistan have swallowed the Western caricature of equating "Islamic" with extremist. They are so ashamed of their identity and desperate for Western approval, they cringe with shame every time a Pakistani wears a hijab or has a beard or says the word "Allah hafiz". They are the opposite extreme of the religious extremists, and Imran Khan has sensed the pulse of the nation to steer a middle course between these two extremist groups.

I'll give you a non-Islamic example that we can both identify with. As you know, we eat with our hands. This is our culture, our tradition, and nobody thinks twice about it. When some south Asians go to the West, they feel they have to use cutlery at every occasion and must never use their hands. Watching these hapless souls is always fun. After some time, people realize how silly this is and there is nothing wrong to use our traditions proudly, even in the finest Indian restaurant. (Obviously you wouldn't eat spaghetti with the hands.)

Yes i get to see these hapless souls in India too, they have no sense of their past, nor do they appreciate the rich traditions left by ancestors (whoever they may be). I myself was once subjected to a little bit of derision among peers the first time i came to Hyderabad (i am from a town city albeit a bustling one). I gave them a piece of my mind about how i am happy about eating with my hands, rather than having the "tan tana tan" sound of spoons and forks hitting the plates and piercing my mouth.

Its not just eating habits, just to sound cool or whatever they wantonly deride age old things. Yes if he wants to succeed he has to take a middle path, nothing wrong with that. However, he should be careful that he doesn't draw too tight a line in the name of middle path that he isn't left with any kind of leeway.

 

[airuah]

reminds me of Obama's "yes we can" before the elections...Imran is trying to just emulate it..........90 days is overestimating ones own capabilities....it would take years even if he tried........

 

[truthseer]

reminds me of Obama's "yes we can" before the elections...Imran is trying to just emulate it..........90 days is overestimating ones own capabilities....it would take years even if he tried........

You're underestimating the corruption in the country.

 

[indushek]

Imran Khan: If elected, we’ll create an Islamic welfare state

If elected, we’ll create an Islamic welfare state

Imran pledges to end corruption in 90 days

* PTI chief says Pakistan needs a govt that changes system and breaks begging bowl

By Asad Farooq

KARACHI: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan, on Sunday, pledged to make Pakistan an Islamic welfare state if his party came to power, and promised a state where justice would be ensured on grass roots level.

Addressing a big convention at a ground adjacent to the Mazar-e-Quaid, the PTI chairman told the crowd he was forming a team to formulate policies, notably aimed at alleiviating poverty “We want to break the begging bowl once and for all”, he said, and make Pakistan a “true Islamic welfare state”. He hit out at President Asif Ali Zardari, claiming his days were numbered and accusing him of policies that encouraged corruption.

He said his party would solidify judiciary on priority basis, and promised free of cost justice on people’s doorsteps, adding that all the systems in government departments would be computerised to check corruption. Khan said that he would introduce an exemplary team, which would be honest and capable. He said that party ticket would be granted on merit to only those candidates who will declare their assets. Later, if someone’s assets grow, he/she would be asked to make a declaration. That mechanism, he said, would prevent legislators from getting involved in corruption.

The PTI chief further said that corruption prevalent in the country would be eliminated within 90 days of his party’s coming to power, and said it was not a tough task for him. He said that in present situation, the country bears a loss of Rs 3000 million every day. He announced that his party would form a free and fair accountability cell, free of political pressure, and vowed to end political interference in police department.

All roads in Karachi near the rally venue were jammed for more than ten hours, an AFP reporter said, and hundreds of thousands of people waved party flags when the former Pakistan cricket captain arrived. “I promised to all you people that we’ll make a new and respectable Pakistan. Join me to achieve this goal,” he told the crowds, full of people waving the green and red flags of his opposition Movement for Justice Party.

“I have been an honest cricketer who never fixed a match. I promise you that I’ll never fixed a match either during my political career,” he said, brushing aside speculation his rise had tacit support from the military establishment. Imran Khan said that he will do everything which Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah would have done, and would never beg from foreigners. He said his team would present outstanding and revolutionary policies on all subjects, including local government, foreign, transport, economy, agriculture, and particularly education. He said that a unified educational system was his dream.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

You know guys leaving the, all too attractive word nobody wants to discuss his plans for economic development and corruption hunt down??

What does he mean solidify judiciary and bring it to the door step?? Is the Pakistani judicial system also plagued with time over runs in delivery of justice like here in India??

How does he want to break the begging bowl, what are his plans?? does he believe in reforms like privatization and increase in FDI in to Pakistan??

The promises of creating a responsible and fair accounting cell to gauge the performance of government and decreasing political interference in Police matters cannot be done easily in countries like Pakistan and India. Too many vested interests and individuals along with groups working for own benefits will negate any such actions. The people themselves need education and economic prosperity over a period so that they do not resort to corruption, which makes the 90 days miracle unrealistic. I am sorry, if he doesn't have any solid, workable and practical solutions he cannot achieve anything. I suggest he takes it, one at a step.