IMF wants assets of Pakistani officers of grade 17 - 22 to be public.

[TheSolution]

It is just such a shame to see Pakistan drop to a far worse state than Tanzania. The difference was leadership and commitment for the country's improvement.

IMF is right, until the parallel economies and self interest of the generals is not handled, nothing will change.

Here army/police/civil service salaries are open; as they are all 'servants of the people' people have right to know. To use pretext of security is covering up the deep rot and corruption.

Must be done.

They must be exposed nude to the entire nation.

Accountability and consequences against corruption and nepotism is a must.

 

[uhuru]

Must be done.

They must be exposed nude to the entire nation.

Accountability and consequences against corruption and nepotism is a must.

Expose the deep rot - name each of these generals - they should be exposed for the real thieves they are.

until public goes to demand army give up their billions and either junior officers take command and line up top leadership and perform MBS function - give up the bllions or your hands.

 

[iLION12345_1]

The IMF has always understood the Pakistani economy and the reasons for its downfall far better than anyone inside Pakistan, especially its government and foreign ministers ever have, simply because the IMF, for all its flaws or not, is actually a finance related company with actual experts.

Pakistanis just love to hate the IMF because it makes realistic demands, the demands IMF makes to any other country would make total sense, but our systems are so corrupt, our people so blind and patriotism so high that we absolutely refuse to believe that we have to change to improve, instead we just toss IMF into the usual “the world is against us and this institution is controlled by the west” bucket and call it a day instead of realizing that if all of IMFs directives were to be followed, Pakistan would most likely be out of the gutter right now. Yes the people would have suffered massively in the short run, but when you sink your country so low, that’s the only way to fix it.

A good government would have balanced IMF demands while also making sure the people weren’t getting too pressured, though a more IMF-centric approach would still be the solution at the end of the day. But yet again, our politicians messed up, both the PTI, who simply refused to listen to any of IMFs demands in order to keep the public happy, and the PDM, who did the same at first but took it so far that the country hit crisis levels and jumped headfirst into the IMF to try and fix things, not realizing how badly the people would be effected. And yet the followers of both sides will keep trying to blindly defend their parties.

 

[ghazi52]

,..,.,
Economy:of a common Pakistani

Exports: $12.0/person/month
Remittances: $11.35/person/month

Imports: $30.3/person/month

GDP(capita): ~$100/person/month

State Bank Reserves: $13.63/person

External Loan: $568/person
Total loan: $1245/person

Govt expenditure: $13.2/person/month

 

[blain2]

And their close family members…

It is just such a shame to see Pakistan drop to a far worse state than Tanzania. The difference was leadership and commitment for the country's improvement.

IMF is right, until the parallel economies and self interest of the generals is not handled, nothing will change.

Here army/police/civil service salaries are open; as they are all 'servants of the people' people have right to know. To use pretext of security is covering up the deep rot and corruption.


I think we need MBS solution - round up all the generals and their tutifruiti politicians and get them to give up the billions. Then public should decide if these thieves must meet the shariah punishment - chop hands off...

Money is not with the generals despite the public perception.

 

[SaadH]

Dar came on imf recommendation

Yeah and rode in on IMF's Gulfstream tayara...wait...

 

[ziaulislam]

Money is not with the generals despite the public perception.

Generals starting shitting gold when they hit 60 that's why they can retire in west with only grade 22 salary which isn't enough to even a buy a ticket to France.


This process is unique to Pakistan since no where else do general start shitting gold when they retire because no other country generals be it China India or bengaldeah retire elsewhere

It is just such a shame to see Pakistan drop to a far worse state than Tanzania. The difference was leadership and commitment for the country's improvement.

IMF is right, until the parallel economies and self interest of the generals is not handled, nothing will change.

Here army/police/civil service salaries are open; as they are all 'servants of the people' people have right to know. To use pretext of security is covering up the deep rot and corruption.


I think we need MBS solution - round up all the generals and their tutifruiti politicians and get them to give up the billions. Then public should decide if these thieves must meet the shariah punishment - chop hands off...

We need to study the gut bacteria of Pakistani generals to see how they shit gold ..what's the mechanism

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Yeah and rode in on IMF's Gulfstream tayara...wait...

That PAF jets is for Prime Minister .PM can ask PAF to take it to Antarctica and back

 

[ziaulislam]

My father was grade 22 he couldn't afford to pay 7-8 lacs tickets to western countries..even now his retirement isn't enough to do so

 

[SaadH]

I presume this includes CAOS, as he is a grade 22 officer?

I would recommend IMF be very careful of these certified thieves.

All grade 17-22 officers, military leadership, politicians, their direct and indirect relations need to declare their assets and data updated on a public platform with proper audits.

Bhai it won't make any difference when all the jarnails and the rest of the badmashiya can easily use the services offered by the pre-imminent statesman of Pakistan, Mr. Zardari to send their loot abroad through launches off the coast of Sindh and through model girls like Ayan Ali.

 

[blain2]

Generals starting shitting gold when they hit 60 that's why they can retire in west with only grade 22 salary which isn't enough to even a buy a ticket to France.


This process is unique to Pakistan since no where else do general start shitting gold when they retire because no other country generals be it China India or bengaldeah retire elsewhere



We need to study the gut bacteria of Pakistani generals to see how they shit gold ..what's the mechanism

Which generals have retired in the west? Is there anything even material to discuss except noise and false propaganda?

Musharraf in Dubai for obvious reasons. Lives a spartan life. No cases of financial irregularities against him despite PML-N propaganda.
Waheed Kakar, lives in Pakistan.
Jehangir Karamat, lives in Pakistan.
Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani, lives in Pakistan.
Raheel Sharif, lives in Pakistan.

The same applies to the vast majority of PAF and PN senior officers.

As always, a lot of nonsense passes as propaganda here.

 

[COOKie LOOkie....]

My father was grade 22 he couldn't afford to pay 7-8 lacs tickets to western countries..even now his retirement isn't enough to do so

Thats correct!
Do you know a captian Pilot in USAF makes the same or less than a regular assistant professor or a GS 9 scale government employee.
Same in Pakistan grade 22 cant afford a round trip to europe let alone buying properties offshore.
This tells you enough.

 

[blain2]

I presume this includes CAOS, as he is a grade 22 officer?

I would recommend IMF be very careful of these certified thieves.

All grade 17-22 officers, military leadership, politicians, their direct and indirect relations need to declare their assets and data updated on a public platform with proper audits.

CoAS would be grade 23 if there was something like it. Lt Gen is BPS-22.

 

[Path-Finder]

Which officers are you talking about?

I hope people realize that military makes a fraction of the people in a sea of government bureaucracy upon which government largess is bestowed.

The entire military has no more than 500 BPS-21/22 officers (Maj Gen - Lt Gen and including PN and PAF officers of the same rank). The rest of our bureaucracy has a few thousand more. I don't think the government pays for anyone's education, medical or retirement "overseas".

If someone needs acute medical attention offered only overseas then that decision is made on a case by case basis. There is no "khula khata" for all officials getting these benefits overseas. Its expensive enough to offer them their benefits in-country.

across the board, those who earn Haq, Halal will never have anything to worry about BUT those with assets beyond their means will always have something to worry about.

Lastly this is one of the only ways to regain public confidence that is lost.

Lets face the bitter hard facts its the gareeb quom that pays their wages and all the quom get in return is chittar.

 

[COOKie LOOkie....]

Which generals have retired in the west? Is there anything even material to discuss except noise and false propaganda?

Musharraf in Dubai for obvious reasons. Lives a spartan life. No cases of financial irregularities against him despite PML-N propaganda.
Waheed Kakar, lives in Pakistan.
Jehangir Karamat, lives in Pakistan.
Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani, lives in Pakistan.
Raheel Sharif, lives in Pakistan.

The same applies to the vast majority of PAF and PN senior officers.

As always, a lot of nonsense passes as propaganda here.

stop spreading lies.!
Kiyani is settled in Australia, Melbourne.
Musharaf and his kids in Dubhai
Bajwa in belgium
There arw couple in texas , they own gas stations.
General Pasha is living and working abroad same for raheel.
And dont get me started about PAF there a shit load of them working in lockeed and other small defense or aviation industries.
Same goes for their kids. In the name of national security they sent their kids abroad and when they retire their kids apply for their parents citizenship.
So better keep your mouth closed.

CoAS would be grade 23 if there was something like it. Lt Gen is BPS-22.

No such thing as 23. 22 is the highest in Pakistan in all government jobs. So a professor from a University and COAS are the same grade scale a d pay grade.