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Egypt recognizes Israel,true does that change it's status from an Illegal state? Nope.

In order for me to recognize it as a state they need to go back to the borders which the U.N backs.





A large amount of countries in the U.N consider Israel as a state that breaks international law.

The map above shows who does and does not have diplomatic relations with the State of Israel. Currently 36 countries do not recognize and/or have foreign relations with Israel.

This includes 15 states that did at one point in the past but now, for variety of reasons, do not. Interestingly, this includes several Latin American countries.


The following states have never recognized and/or had foreign relations with Israel:

  1. Afghanistan
  2. Algeria
  3. Bangladesh
  4. Bhutan
  5. Brunei
  6. Comoros
  7. Djibouti
  8. Indonesia
  9. Iraq
  10. Kuwait
  11. Lebanon
  12. Libya
  13. Malaysia
  14. North Korea
  15. Pakistan
  16. Saudi Arabia
  17. Somalia
  18. Sudan
  19. Syria
  20. United Arab Emirates
  21. Yemen
The following countries did have relations with Israel at one point in the past. (Time period of relations and reason for breaking them off are in parenthesis):

  1. Bahrain (1996–2000; Second Intifada)
  2. Bolivia (1950–2009; Gaza War)
  3. Chad (1960–1972; solidarity with the Palestinians)
  4. Cuba (1950–1973; Yom Kippur War)
  5. Guinea (1959–1967; unknown but presumable related to 1967 Arab-Israeli war)
  6. Iran (1948–1951, 1953–1979; Islamic revolution in Iran)
  7. Mali (1960–1973; pressure from neighboring countries)
  8. Morocco (1994–2000; Second Intifada)
  9. Mauritania (2000–2009; Gaza War)
  10. Nicaragua (1948–1982, 1992–2010; Gaza flotilla raid)
  11. Niger (1960–1973, 1996–2002; Second Intifada)
  12. Oman (1996–2000; Second Intifada)
  13. Qatar (1996–2009; Gaza War)
  14. Tunisia (1996–2000; Second Intifada)
  15. Venezuela (1950–2009; Gaza War)


We have already gone over why it was not an illegitimate miltary dictatorship one of the reasons was that Sissi was elected to Office.



Bloodshed and extreme violence was performed against the peaceful ant-Morsi demonstrators in many occasions. The peaceful demonstration surrounding the presidential palace “Itehadia” following the illegal constitutional declaration was ended by violence and bloodshed. Violence against demonstrators used to start first by Morsi supporters and gangs. Different incidents of torturing of peaceful demonstrators have been reported. Itehadia demonstrations ended with 68 fatalities. In successive waves of protest in Port Said, Suez, Ismailia … more than hundred fatalities were also committed by Morsi’s security.

Morsi announced even the curfew and state of emergency without any western criticism. Morsi regime murdered journalists, young activists after abuse. Bodies of different activists were found on the streets showing signs of torture. The head doctor of forensic service has resigned as a protest to the pressure put upon him to indicate car accident as cause of death instead of torturing. No condemnation was spoken by the west.

On the contrary, Morsi was rewarded by Obama administration that accelerated the delivery of F16 fighter jets. In addition president of the European Union Herman van Rompuy stood beside Morsi in Cairo to announce a billion Euros aid to the regime of Morsi.

8. Freedom of opinion and freedom of press. Sixteen journalists were prosecuted and even accused of blasphemy within only the first five months of Morsi’s presidency. The Arab Information Network for Human Rights has stated (19/01/13) that the number of lawsuits against journalists accused of insulting the president, by Morsi’s fifth month of presidency has been four times higher than during 30 years era of Mubarak. The supreme committee of journalists who fought for years for freedom of expression under Mubarak was dissolved and replaced by Muslim Brotherhood and Salafist that have nothing to do with journalism. Death threats were spoken against several journalists and TV presenters including many who have fought against the regime Mubarak without being threatened .
Freedom House Institute downgraded freedom of expression in Egypt from partially free to non-free zone.

9. Violence against women increased. Rape and sexual assault against female protesters was approved by the Muslim brother’s President of the Senate (Shura board) and several Muslim clerics.

This is beside the fact that Muslim brothers actively support female circumcision. Circumcision is called in Egypt ‘cleaning procedure”. Dr Abu El Fetouh the Muslim brother and former presidential candidate described circumcision as a correction for a female “congenital anomaly”.

10. Verbal and physical persecution of Christians took a steady rising curve . New forms of persecution took place such as imprisonment for blasphemy or insulting Morsi. More than four incidents of collective deportations of mass Christians took place. It went so far that the Coptic Cathedral was attacked with bombs while the funeral of some Christian victims of sectarian violence few days earlier was taking place.

Hate messages against non-Muslims have been hold almost 24/24 hours on the Islamic media, including those runt under the auspices of the Egyptian public broadcaster. The supreme leader mohammed Badie) repeated in 2012 the earlier statements of Morsi “Jews are sons of pigs and monkeys, leeches, source of corruption. They only understand the language of violence.” He called for the establishment of the Islamic caliphate and liberation of Palestine. Christians were in different situations threatened by bloodbath/shed.

These threatening were spoken out by many Muslim brother’s leaders including Mohammed El Beltagi, Safwat Hegazi, Khaled Badr … and the leader of Jama Islamia, the militant Assem Abdel Maged. Morsi never took any measure to stop this hateful messages. Morsi was invited in many occasions to visit a Coptic institute. He never did because visiting a church causes “impurity”.

11. Hatred and violence against Shiites. Morsi hold a meeting in Cairo stadium with majority of salafi leaders under the title “support jihad in Syria”. Morsi described Shiites during this meeting as people with aberrant “violated” belief. This is a hidden term that is equal to infidel “kafir” . As a “kafir” deserves death, many Shiites were murdered and maimed 3 days later in Shiite village in Giza.

Sure is that why they did all these while in power?



Muslim Brotherhood official statement dated 28/5/2015 called for killing Egyptians who toppled Mohamed Morsi

Muslim Brotherhood Leaks part 1

Muslim Brotherhood leaks part 2, dirty deals with the white house

The criminal record of Mohamed Morsi, former head of Egypt

El-Etihadeya presidential massacre videos

Fatma Arabi Yusuf, Muslim Brotherhood member, confessed framing rape case charges against Egyptian police

Muslim Brotherhood calls for Islamic Jihad in Egypt

Muslim Brotherhood crimes in 2015, Egypt

Muslim Brotherhood raising ISIS flags in Cairo

Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists

Muslim Brotherhood announced Islamic Jihad against Egypt

Muslim Brotherhood Doctor refused to provide a 4 month old baby with subsidized milk because his name is Sisi

Muslim Brotherhood member raped a 6 years old child due to his family’s support to Marshal Sisi

Muslim Brotherhood admit torturing civilians and targeting police and military individuals and their families

Muslim Brotherhood admit spying and selling National security classified Docs to Qatar’s intelligence and Al-Jazeera

Turkey, Qatar and Obama are supporting what they called “Egyptian Liberation Army”, similar to Syrian liberation Army, to turn Egypt to another Syria. documented with videos.

Documented Report on Muslim Brotherhood crimes in Egypt from 30 June 2013 until 25 December 2013 issued by Ibn Khaldun center in Arabic language and translated by Hey Egypt website to English language.

Video contain collection of Muslim Brotherhood threats to the Egyptian community, before and after 30/6/2013 revolution.

Obama’s administration refused to deliver Apache Helicopters to Egypt in order to fight terrorism in Sinai, and provided terrorists in Syria with Anti tank weapons. Obama spends tax payers money on terrorists.

Documentation and eyewitnesses and victims of tortures testimony on Etihadeya massacre committed by Muslim Brotherhood against Egyptian citizens and peaceful protesters on 4 December 2012, and Mukatam crimes against Egyptian citizens and protesters dated 23/3/2013 committed by Muslim Brotherhood.

Muslim Brotherhood: A woman swimming is an adulteress and touching bananas is forbidden

Terrorism industry in the history of Muslim Brotherhood documented report about all Muslim Brotherhood crimes and terror acts from 24/2/1945 to 25/12/2013

Evidence on Mohamed Mursi’s direct link to terror acts in Egypt
Brotherhood crimes in Egypt sponsored by Obama’s administration

Brotherhood Students burned Nasr City and Threw A Soldier From The Third Floor In Al-Azhar University

Terrorist Groups In Sinai Exploit Children In Terror Attacks

Mohamed Morsi threatens Egypt with Foreign countries interference

Egypt fighting terrorism

Videos Of Foreign Press Reporters Biased To Terrorism In Egypt

The great deception of Muslim Brotherhood and video shows the reality of Armed Rabaa Sit-In

Muslim Brotherhood Supporters Slaughtered A Taxi Driver And Burned His Car

Muslim Brotherhood: We Don’t Allow Christians Or Women To Run For Elections and they use women and children as human shields

Egyptian Intelligence Exposed Obama’s Administration Espionage Case With Muslim Brotherhood

Video of Muslim Brotherhood Leader: How To Destroy The sovereignty Of The Egyptian State

Muslim Brotherhood Calling Jan25 2011 Holy War

Video Muslim Brotherhood Supporters Torture Egyptian Officer To Death

America Incite And Support Terror Attacks Against Egypt

Classified Documents On The Espionage Case Between CIA and Muslim Brotherhood In Egypt

Egypt Under Terror Attacks

Involvement Of Qatar, Hamas And Tunis In The Creation Of An Islamic Army

The First Egyptian President Who Betrayed His Country And Accused Of Spying For The CIA

Western Investigators: Muslim Brotherhood Assassinated The US Ambassador In Libya


Muslim Brotherhood Teachers Turn Schools To Slaughterhouses To Torture Students

Autopsy Report Reveals International News Agencies Faked News Of Brotherhood Casualties

The USA Report Revealed By The Russians To Turn Egypt & The Arab Region To A Civil War Zone

Ossama Bin Laden Was A Muslim Brotherhood Member

Judicial Source: Morsi’s Wealth Inflated To 2 Billion Pounds After He Became President Of Egypt

New Document Reveals Brotherhood And Ousted President Involved In Terror Acts In Egypt

Details Of First Trial Of Ousted Brotherhood President Charged Of Inciting Murder

The Dirty Deals Of The USA With Muslim Brotherhood And Al-Qaeda Terrorist Organization


US Sponsor Terrorism And Egypt Is Waging A War Against It

Recordings Revealed Between Egyptian Ousted President & Alzawahiri AlQaeda Leader

Muslim Sisterhood Students In Egypt Caught Faking Death Scenes With Aljazeera News Agency

Report On Brotherhood Organization Crimes Against Christians In Egypt

Documents Evidence About MB And Ousted President Morsi’s Treason & Corruption


Mohamed Morsi’s Trial will reveal Documents Could Put Barack Obama In Prison

Amnesty International Calls For Human Rights In Practicing Violence (Videos and screen shots of MB violence)

Aljazeera Network Caught Airing Fake News and ignoring Muslim Brotherhood violence in Egypt

Documented Evidence 2012 Egypt Presidential Elections Fraud In Favor Of Mohamed Morsi

Egypt Fighting Terrorism



Muslim Brotherhood crimes in Egypt part 1

Muslim Brotherhood crimes in Egypt part 2

Muslim Brotherhood crimes in Egypt part 3

Muslim Brotherhood crimes in Egypt part 4

Muslim Brotherhood crimes in Egypt part 5

The Egyptian Pharaohs Achievements In Fighting Terrorism

The MB Utter Failure In Mobilizing Their Supporters 30 Aug 2013 And The Ongoing Violence

America Lives On Shedding The Arab Blood

Wake Up America This Is Where Your Tax Money Goes

Egypt Is Saving The World From Pure Evil Terrorism

Christians In Egypt Challenge USA & EU’s Barefaced Support To MB Terror

Videos Evidence Brotherhood Hate Speech And Incitement To Kill

Hard Video Evidence Showing the Pure Evil of Muslim Brotherhood & Foreign Medias


Muslim Brotherhood two years reign of Egypt

Egyptian Blood Shedding By MB Under USA Sponsorship

Videos Egypt Under Brotherhood Militias Terror Attacks 14 Aug 2013

Video Evidence Of Muslim Brotherhood Shot Dead His Fellow In Alexandria

Muslim Brotherhood Militia Killed A Ten Years Old Child In Front Of A Church

Human Rights Organizations In Egypt declare 82 Killed 44 Tortured By Muslims Brotherhood

The Arrest Of Muslims Brotherhood Kidnapped Children From Orphanages

Torture Video Carried Out By Muslim Brotherhood Against 15 Years Old Kid

Amnesty International Evidence Points To Torture Carried Out By Morsi Supporters



Muslim Brotherhood Massacres Against Christians In Egypt

Referral Of MB Snipers To Criminal Court For killing 9 Demonstrators During 30 of June 2013 Revolution

MB Forcing Children To Wear Shrouds Using Women And Children As Human Shields

Muslim Brotherhood Militia Terror Videos USA And Their Allies Don’t Want You To See

The Big Fat Lie Democracy And The Freedom Fries Of The USA And Muslim Brotherhood Crimes in Egypt

Video Evidence Of Brotherhood Crimes On the 26 Of July 2013



What Wikipedia Can’t Tell You About Obama’s Support To Al-Qaeda

Muslim Brotherhood Worst Massacres Videos Against Egyptian Civilians

The Worst Muslim Brotherhood Crimes Videos In Egypt Financed By Americans Tax Payers

USA Sponsor Of Brotherhood Terrorists Videos

Unbelievable Muslim Brotherhood Milishia Success Stories (Muslim Brotherhood beaten Children and Women)



Kinda hypocritical how you support them so much.



Israel is not fighting the MB how many times do I have to go over this?

Israel is fighting Hamas while Egypt has removed Hamas from the terrorist organizations list.

No, not really. All what you said is simply because you support your current military dictatorship and you despise Israel. So its normal for you to say that.
FACT IS THIS:MAJORITY OF COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD HAVE VERY GOOD RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL(including my Indian friend @T-72M1 whose country is one of the most pro Israeli countries on earth and their second largest defence supplier. lol ).
You said even though your country's military dictatorship officially recognizes Israel, you don't recognize Israel until it withdraws from pre 1960s? Who are you to change anything? lol You are simply an Egyptian living in the U.S who has no say in how the world's functions and eve in how your home country runs since you don't even live there. lol In fact none of us here matter much, we are just making observations and examining world events, we have little to no bearing on how world geo political events. lol
As i said your regime is no netter(if not far worse). They are still suppressing and committing crimes against former MB members and officials, are blockading Gaza and keeping your Hamas terrorists brothers at an arms length, while fighting muslim/Islamist fighters in Sinai. They consider all these actors as terrorists and they act accordingly. As i said you are both fighting those you consider terrorists, no difference there whatsoever. :)

Don't get me wrong though, i don't have anything against your current military rulers, of anything i prefer them over Morsi Muslim brotherhood government. since they are more moderate and they also serve our interests for peace and stability in the region. :enjoy:

Britain And The Military Rulers Of Egypt - Another Extraordinary Special Relationship
13/09/2016 17:30
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Britain has struck a new special relationship with the military rulers of Egypt which is as deep as it is worrying. As we approach the 60th anniversary of the British invasion of Egypt - known in polite circles as the ‘Suez crisis’ - Britons should reflect on their government’s relationship with this key Middle Eastern country.

Since the military coup of July 2013 that overthrew President Mohamed Morsi, Egypt’s first democratically elected government, Egypt under General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi has once again become a nasty, repressive regime. Torture, deaths in detention, forced disappearances, restrictions on civil society, the imprisonment of journalists and restrictions on freedom of expression, are now all common. Up to 40,000 Egyptianshave been arrested by the regime since July 2013, mainly for involvement in demonstrations or opposition political activities. Some 1,000 people were killed during violence in July and August 2013 when the new regime conducted clearing operations to remove Muslim Brotherhood protesters from sit-ins in Cairo.

Yet for Britain, this all represents a new opportunity. Last month Prime Minister Theresa May spoke with el-Sisi and ‘discussed a new chapter in bilateral relations between the UK and Egypt’, according to the government press release. This is no under-statement since it follows a series of extraordinary meetings and extreme British apologias for the nature of the Egyptian regime.


In August 2015, when Defence Secretary Michael Fallon paid one of several recent visits to Egypt, the government stated that ‘during his visit Mr Fallon discussed Britain’s support for security and for economic progress and democracy in Egypt, as a vital element of restoring stability in the region’. These words are code and surely well-understood on both sides: what was meant was that ‘Mr Fallon discussed Britain’s support for the pro-Western regime (‘security’) and for British commercial interests (‘economic progress’) and authoritarianism (‘democracy’) as a vital element of maintaining repression (‘stability’) in the region’.

The following month, September 2015, Fallon entertained the head of Egypt’s military, General Mahmoud Hegazy, in London, while the government reported that ‘with growing instability in the region it more important than ever that the UK cements the already strong ties with Egypt’.
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In November last year, relations deepened still further. El-Sisi was allowed by the government to visit Britain while then Prime Minister David Cameron said he was ‘delighted to welcome president Sisi to Downing Street’ and that Egypt was a ‘vital partner for us’ for economic and security ties. El-Sisi for his part noted that the UK was a ‘friendly country’. Cameron gave vague mention of the ‘need for political progress in Egypt’ but otherwise didn’t upset his visitor by any comments on just what was happening back home.

The day following the meeting between the two leaders, Michael Fallon met el-Sisi todiscuss military cooperation while then Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond signed amemorandum of understanding with his Egyptian counterpart Sameh Shoukry. This will ‘launch a new stage in our British-Egyptian partnership for stability and reform’ involving ‘a regular strategic dialogue’. The government says that ‘the UK enjoys a strong security partnership with Egypt’ and holds regular discussions with the Egyptian military. Arms continue to flow the regime: in 2015 the UK approved £150m worth of military equipment to Egypt, including guns and ammunition. Britain is also forming a ‘small military operations team’ in Egypt to improve combatting Islamic State in Libya.
During his Visit to Britain earlier this year, speaking at the conference, Cameron said “We are working intensively together in the spirit of close cooperation and I am immensely grateful for all the efforts the Egyptian authorities have made so far,” he said, adding “I am sure we will be able to bring those British holidaymakers home soon because of the level of cooperation between our two governments and – more than that – I am sure that we will be able, over time, to take the necessary action to restore the holidaymaking route from Britain to Sharm el-Sheikh and vice-versa,” he added.
However, Sisi revealed that, at the UK’s request, British authorities conducted a security check at the Sharm el-Sheik airport 10 months ago and found it “satisfactory.”
“Ten months ago we were asked by our British friends to send a team to Sharm el-Sheikh airport to make sure all the security procedures are enough and provide the adequate safety and security for passengers.
“We understood their concern because they are really interested in the safety and security of their nationals. We received the teams, we cooperated with them and they checked the security operations – they were happy with that.
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The primary reason for British backing of el-Sisi is that the regime’s repressive rule is creating good conditions for furthering British investment. Britain has long been the largest investor in Egypt, with deals worth over $5 billion, but ‘we are hungry for more’, British ambassador John Casson has said. In July 2016, a UK trade envoy to Egypt, the MP Jeffrey Donaldson, and the head of UK Export Finance, Louis Taylor, visited Cairo to discuss expanding trade and investment ties. Donaldson said that ‘the past few months have seen many enquiries from British companies wishing to do business in Egypt and their interest highlights the significant opportunities that are available across a range of Egyptian commercial sectors’. Louis Taylor pointed out that his organisation, which is the UK’s export credit agency, had finance available for projects in Egypt worth ‘hundreds of millions’ - in other words, the British taxpayer will subsidise British companies investing under the el-Sisi regime.

This visit followed a trade delegation to Egypt headed by Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond in March 2015, accompanied by big investors such as BP, Vodafone, Barclays and BG Group. The visit heralded the major prize for the British - the signing of a massive $12 billion investment deal by BP for an oil and gas project in the West Nile Delta offshore Egypt. The agreement is the single largest investment deal in Egypt’s history. At the same time, Hammond ‘met President el-Sisi to discuss a range of issues, including regional security and the global coalition’s fight against ISIL’.

The Morsi government and the Muslim Brotherhood represented a serious obstacle to this oil and gas deal. The BP-led consortium had been haggling over the terms for the West Nile project for years and was seeking direct ownership over the resources and accrual of 100 per cent of the profits. The Morsi government had thrown a spanner in the works, with some leading figures objecting to BP’s demands. Indeed, by mid-2013, just weeks before the coup, the Morsi government was engaged in talks with BP demanding far better terms. El-Sisi’s seizure of power changed all that. The new dealunder the military regime now offers BP exceedingly generous terms and, most importantly, has moved Egypt away from a long-used production-sharing model in which companies and countries typically split profit 20:80, to a tax royalty scheme that essentially privatises Egypt’s gas sector and hands control and oversight of natural resources to private companies.

These deals have been signed while Whitehall has been fully aware that repression in Egypt has increased every year since el-Sisi seized power. In 2013, ‘the human rights situation in Egypt deteriorated’, the Foreign Office said in April 2014. In 2014, it notedthat ‘the human rights situation in Egypt remained poor and deteriorated in some areas, particularly with regards to freedom of expression and association’. More recently, the Foreign Office’s Human Rights Report for 2016 notes that ‘in 2015, reports of torture, police brutality and forced disappearances increased’ and that ‘restrictions on freedom of expression also increased’.

Despite this knowledge, in August 2015, Michael Fallon offered a stunning apologia for repression by writing in an Egyptian newspaper that ‘Egyptians have rejected both extremism and authoritarianism’. Meanwhile, our man in Cairo, Britain’s ambassador John Casson, has apparently convinced himself that Egyptians ‘are building a more stable, more prosperous and more democratic country’. Casson was even quoted in the Egyptian media in June 2015 of approving of Egypt’s ‘tough security measures’. Whitehall does not support repressive regimes despite their being repressive but precisely because they are repressive and promote a pro-Western foreign policy and provide an attractive investment climate.

Britain has sometimes gone through the motions on protesting at Egypt’s lack of human rights under el-Sisi, such as by ‘expressing concern‘ at the Egyptian Court’s passing of 183 death sentences in 2014. Nothing, however, has been allowed to upset military and commercial relations. Witness the Foreign Office’s embarrassing analysisof el-Sisi’s seizure of power. It notes that el-Sisi was ‘elected’ to power in May 2014 with 96 per cent of the vote (a proportion that would have impressed Stalin), which ‘in some respects... fell short of compliance with the principles set out in... international standards for democratic elections’. Indeed.

Equally, the silence on the part of the British media, especially the BBC, on this level of support for repression is stunning. While everyone knows of China’s crackdown on Tiananmen square in 1989 which killed hundreds of people, perhaps up to 2,000, how many people are aware of the Egyptian security forces killing of 817 people in Rab’a al-Adawiya Square in Cairo in August 2014? The difference, of course, is that one was perpetrated by an official enemy, the other by an official friend. If these media simply did their job, and reported what their government is doing, it is likely that British governments would not be able to get away with lending their support to tinpot dictators around the world.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mark-curtis/britain-egypt-foreign-policy_b_11972278.html

Don't mind the tone of the article though, Huffington post is another leftist socialist organization that always blames our policies us for everything. lol So as you can see we have no issues with the less Islamic government of Egypt, i just find it ironic that an Egyptian like you will criticise Israel meanwhile you people are no better/if not worse. :D To me you both are FIGHTING TERRORISTS AND YOU SHOULD BOTH CONTINUE THE FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISTS, DONT BLAME EACH OTHER . :agree::cheers:
 
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This 'humanitarian crisis' that US, France and Britain are howling is not in sympathy of Syrians. If they were so sympathetic to Syria and its people, they would never have launched their terror syndicate on them.

This howling and shrieking is because they are losing their stakes in Syria. US special forces are reportedly in Syria, directing these terrorists to attack and destroy the government in Syria. Now they are encircled in Aleppo. Russia and Syria should not allow these terrorists safe passage. They should be eliminated.
 
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FACT IS THIS:MAJORITY OF COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD HAVE VERY GOOD RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL(including my Indian friend @T-72M1 whose country is one of the most pro Israeli countries on earth and their second largest defence supplier. lol ).

I think he was liking my post for bashing your blatant Islamist loving mindset and critizes the Secular government when clearly the Islamist one was the worst of the 2.

You said even though your country's military dictatorship officially recognizes Israel, you don't recognize Israel until it withdraws from pre 1960s? Who are you to change anything? lol You are simply an Egyptian living in the U.S who has no say in how the world's functions and eve in how your home country runs since you don't even live there. lol In fact none of us here matter much, we are just making observations and examining world events, we have little to no bearing on how world geo political events. lol

Then why do you keep bothering me with this bull? I gave you my 2 cents now stop bothering me asshat.

As i said your regime is no netter(if not far worse). They are still suppressing and committing crimes against former MB members and officials, are blockading Gaza and keeping your Hamas terrorists brothers at an arms length, while fighting muslim/Islamist fighters in Sinai. They consider all these actors as terrorists and they act accordingly. As i said you are both fighting those you consider terrorists, no difference there whatsoever. :)
Hamas was clearly removed from the terrorist organization list. Israel and Egypt are fighting different people.

https://defence.pk/threads/egypt-removes-hamas-from-terror-list.379802/

“I call on all Egyptians who haven’t lost their humanity, on all Egyptians who love Palestine and view its problems as their own and its fate as theirs, to raise the voice of solidarity by all available means," posted Mustafa al Nagar on the Masr Al-Arabiyya website. His hope was to make Egypt's leaders understand "that Egyptians oppose the shedding of their brothers’ blood, and that they know who their friends are and who their enemies are.”
-Sissi


Don't get me wrong though, i don't have anything against your current military rulers, of anything i prefer them over Morsi Muslim brotherhood government. since they are more moderate and they also serve our interests for peace and stability in the region. :enjoy:

Sorry but you are clearly a liar, You clearly are a MB lover.

Britain And The Military Rulers Of Egypt - Another Extraordinary Special Relationship
13/09/2016 17:30
n-SISI-628x314.jpg

NET



Britain has struck a new special relationship with the military rulers of Egypt which is as deep as it is worrying. As we approach the 60th anniversary of the British invasion of Egypt - known in polite circles as the ‘Suez crisis’ - Britons should reflect on their government’s relationship with this key Middle Eastern country.

Since the military coup of July 2013 that overthrew President Mohamed Morsi, Egypt’s first democratically elected government, Egypt under General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi has once again become a nasty, repressive regime. Torture, deaths in detention, forced disappearances, restrictions on civil society, the imprisonment of journalists and restrictions on freedom of expression, are now all common. Up to 40,000 Egyptianshave been arrested by the regime since July 2013, mainly for involvement in demonstrations or opposition political activities. Some 1,000 people were killed during violence in July and August 2013 when the new regime conducted clearing operations to remove Muslim Brotherhood protesters from sit-ins in Cairo.

Yet for Britain, this all represents a new opportunity. Last month Prime Minister Theresa May spoke with el-Sisi and ‘discussed a new chapter in bilateral relations between the UK and Egypt’, according to the government press release. This is no under-statement since it follows a series of extraordinary meetings and extreme British apologias for the nature of the Egyptian regime.


In August 2015, when Defence Secretary Michael Fallon paid one of several recent visits to Egypt, the government stated that ‘during his visit Mr Fallon discussed Britain’s support for security and for economic progress and democracy in Egypt, as a vital element of restoring stability in the region’. These words are code and surely well-understood on both sides: what was meant was that ‘Mr Fallon discussed Britain’s support for the pro-Western regime (‘security’) and for British commercial interests (‘economic progress’) and authoritarianism (‘democracy’) as a vital element of maintaining repression (‘stability’) in the region’.

The following month, September 2015, Fallon entertained the head of Egypt’s military, General Mahmoud Hegazy, in London, while the government reported that ‘with growing instability in the region it more important than ever that the UK cements the already strong ties with Egypt’.
563b91c5c461880d6e8b457e.jpg

In November last year, relations deepened still further. El-Sisi was allowed by the government to visit Britain while then Prime Minister David Cameron said he was ‘delighted to welcome president Sisi to Downing Street’ and that Egypt was a ‘vital partner for us’ for economic and security ties. El-Sisi for his part noted that the UK was a ‘friendly country’. Cameron gave vague mention of the ‘need for political progress in Egypt’ but otherwise didn’t upset his visitor by any comments on just what was happening back home.

The day following the meeting between the two leaders, Michael Fallon met el-Sisi todiscuss military cooperation while then Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond signed amemorandum of understanding with his Egyptian counterpart Sameh Shoukry. This will ‘launch a new stage in our British-Egyptian partnership for stability and reform’ involving ‘a regular strategic dialogue’. The government says that ‘the UK enjoys a strong security partnership with Egypt’ and holds regular discussions with the Egyptian military. Arms continue to flow the regime: in 2015 the UK approved £150m worth of military equipment to Egypt, including guns and ammunition. Britain is also forming a ‘small military operations team’ in Egypt to improve combatting Islamic State in Libya.
During his Visit to Britain earlier this year, speaking at the conference, Cameron said “We are working intensively together in the spirit of close cooperation and I am immensely grateful for all the efforts the Egyptian authorities have made so far,” he said, adding “I am sure we will be able to bring those British holidaymakers home soon because of the level of cooperation between our two governments and – more than that – I am sure that we will be able, over time, to take the necessary action to restore the holidaymaking route from Britain to Sharm el-Sheikh and vice-versa,” he added.
However, Sisi revealed that, at the UK’s request, British authorities conducted a security check at the Sharm el-Sheik airport 10 months ago and found it “satisfactory.”
“Ten months ago we were asked by our British friends to send a team to Sharm el-Sheikh airport to make sure all the security procedures are enough and provide the adequate safety and security for passengers.
“We understood their concern because they are really interested in the safety and security of their nationals. We received the teams, we cooperated with them and they checked the security operations – they were happy with that.
CTDJAbUWEAAS-JC.jpg



The primary reason for British backing of el-Sisi is that the regime’s repressive rule is creating good conditions for furthering British investment. Britain has long been the largest investor in Egypt, with deals worth over $5 billion, but ‘we are hungry for more’, British ambassador John Casson has said. In July 2016, a UK trade envoy to Egypt, the MP Jeffrey Donaldson, and the head of UK Export Finance, Louis Taylor, visited Cairo to discuss expanding trade and investment ties. Donaldson said that ‘the past few months have seen many enquiries from British companies wishing to do business in Egypt and their interest highlights the significant opportunities that are available across a range of Egyptian commercial sectors’. Louis Taylor pointed out that his organisation, which is the UK’s export credit agency, had finance available for projects in Egypt worth ‘hundreds of millions’ - in other words, the British taxpayer will subsidise British companies investing under the el-Sisi regime.

This visit followed a trade delegation to Egypt headed by Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond in March 2015, accompanied by big investors such as BP, Vodafone, Barclays and BG Group. The visit heralded the major prize for the British - the signing of a massive $12 billion investment deal by BP for an oil and gas project in the West Nile Delta offshore Egypt. The agreement is the single largest investment deal in Egypt’s history. At the same time, Hammond ‘met President el-Sisi to discuss a range of issues, including regional security and the global coalition’s fight against ISIL’.

The Morsi government and the Muslim Brotherhood represented a serious obstacle to this oil and gas deal. The BP-led consortium had been haggling over the terms for the West Nile project for years and was seeking direct ownership over the resources and accrual of 100 per cent of the profits. The Morsi government had thrown a spanner in the works, with some leading figures objecting to BP’s demands. Indeed, by mid-2013, just weeks before the coup, the Morsi government was engaged in talks with BP demanding far better terms. El-Sisi’s seizure of power changed all that. The new dealunder the military regime now offers BP exceedingly generous terms and, most importantly, has moved Egypt away from a long-used production-sharing model in which companies and countries typically split profit 20:80, to a tax royalty scheme that essentially privatises Egypt’s gas sector and hands control and oversight of natural resources to private companies.

These deals have been signed while Whitehall has been fully aware that repression in Egypt has increased every year since el-Sisi seized power. In 2013, ‘the human rights situation in Egypt deteriorated’, the Foreign Office said in April 2014. In 2014, it notedthat ‘the human rights situation in Egypt remained poor and deteriorated in some areas, particularly with regards to freedom of expression and association’. More recently, the Foreign Office’s Human Rights Report for 2016 notes that ‘in 2015, reports of torture, police brutality and forced disappearances increased’ and that ‘restrictions on freedom of expression also increased’.

Despite this knowledge, in August 2015, Michael Fallon offered a stunning apologia for repression by writing in an Egyptian newspaper that ‘Egyptians have rejected both extremism and authoritarianism’. Meanwhile, our man in Cairo, Britain’s ambassador John Casson, has apparently convinced himself that Egyptians ‘are building a more stable, more prosperous and more democratic country’. Casson was even quoted in the Egyptian media in June 2015 of approving of Egypt’s ‘tough security measures’. Whitehall does not support repressive regimes despite their being repressive but precisely because they are repressive and promote a pro-Western foreign policy and provide an attractive investment climate.

Britain has sometimes gone through the motions on protesting at Egypt’s lack of human rights under el-Sisi, such as by ‘expressing concern‘ at the Egyptian Court’s passing of 183 death sentences in 2014. Nothing, however, has been allowed to upset military and commercial relations. Witness the Foreign Office’s embarrassing analysisof el-Sisi’s seizure of power. It notes that el-Sisi was ‘elected’ to power in May 2014 with 96 per cent of the vote (a proportion that would have impressed Stalin), which ‘in some respects... fell short of compliance with the principles set out in... international standards for democratic elections’. Indeed.

Equally, the silence on the part of the British media, especially the BBC, on this level of support for repression is stunning. While everyone knows of China’s crackdown on Tiananmen square in 1989 which killed hundreds of people, perhaps up to 2,000, how many people are aware of the Egyptian security forces killing of 817 people in Rab’a al-Adawiya Square in Cairo in August 2014? The difference, of course, is that one was perpetrated by an official enemy, the other by an official friend. If these media simply did their job, and reported what their government is doing, it is likely that British governments would not be able to get away with lending their support to tinpot dictators around the world.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mark-curtis/britain-egypt-foreign-policy_b_11972278.html

Am I supposed to care about this? You clearly are delusional to think you can suddenly scrub away all the evidence of you being a MB supporter simply because your governemnt makes a few deals.
 
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I think he was liking my post for bashing your blatant Islamist loving mindset and critizes the Secular government when clearly the Islamist one was the worst of the 2.



Then why do you keep bothering me with this bull? I gave you my 2 cents now stop bothering me asshat.


Hamas was clearly removed from the terrorist organization list. Israel and Egypt are fighting different people.

https://defence.pk/threads/egypt-removes-hamas-from-terror-list.379802/

“I call on all Egyptians who haven’t lost their humanity, on all Egyptians who love Palestine and view its problems as their own and its fate as theirs, to raise the voice of solidarity by all available means," posted Mustafa al Nagar on the Masr Al-Arabiyya website. His hope was to make Egypt's leaders understand "that Egyptians oppose the shedding of their brothers’ blood, and that they know who their friends are and who their enemies are.”
-Sissi




Sorry but you are clearly a liar, You clearly are a MB lover.



Am I supposed to care about this? You clearly are delusional to think you can suddenly scrub away all the evidence of you being a MB supporter simply because your governemnt makes a few deals.

lol why will i be a supporter of a radical islamic group like the Muslim brotherhood? I couldn't care less if you kill or massacre them all(just like i don't give a shit about Sunni and shia militias/foreign fighter/jihadists killing each other in Syria). The more they kill each other the better for mankind.:) . I just find it ironic that an Egyptian will claim his country is fighting terrorists groups while criticizing another country for also fighting terrorists. Even more ironic is that fact that you consider Muslim Brother terrorists while you shy away from labeling their offspring/offshoot/child Hamas as terrorist(which your country did previously), just because you don't want to be seen as taking the same view with Israel? :lol: If you don't consider Sunni Muslim brotherhood terror group like Hamas a terrorist organization then i must say even the Muslim brotherhood itself cant be considered a terrorist group.:pleasantry:
To me Al Nusra, ISIS, Muslim brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, PKK, Al Qaeda, Sunnis and Shia militias are no different. Anybody fighting these groups to me is doing Mankind a favor. They are all terrorists and should b dealt with accordingly without distinction. :guns::ph34r:

So an Authoritarian secular government like the one in Egypt is far more preferable to me than an Islamic ruled Egypt by Sunni extremists like Muslim brotherhood, their Hamas offshoot and Islamist in Sinai peninsula who are both terrorists and should be dealt with without mercy. :nhl_checking:
 
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, just because you don't want to be seen as taking the same view with Israel? :lol: If you don't consider Sunni Muslim brotherhood terror group like Hamas a terrorist organization then i must say even the Muslim brotherhood itself cant be considered a terrorist

wrong, you can like Hamas and hate the MB they are not the same thing.

So an Authoritarian secular government like the one in Egypt is far more preferable to me than an Islamic ruled Egypt by Sunni extremists like Muslim brotherhood, their Hamas offshoot and Islamist in Sinai peninsula who are both terrorists and should be dealt with without mercy. :nhl_checking:

Liar, you love the MB, now stop quoting me.
 
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