If India & Pakistan have a nuclear war...

[Neo]

If India & Pakistan have a nuclear war...
June 13, 2007

An all out nuclear war between India and Pakistan will loft up to five million tons of black carbon soot into the atmosphere, and drop global temperatures by 1.4 degree Celsius, a Rutgers University study has said.

As part of their study, the researchers used a climate model shared by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to calculate the effects of exploding 100 Hiroshima-sized bombs over major cities.

The team found, besides polluting the atmosphere, the radiation would shorten growing seasons in the middle latitudes. In some cases, the growing seasons would fail entirely, they said.

"By explaining the consequences to the world, we hope nothing like this will ever happen," said Alan Robock of Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, who conducted the study.

He said while the US and Russia [Images] had destroyed thousands of warheads following their treaty on disarmament, India, Pakistan and North Korea had swelled their stockpiles.

As such, the threat of a 'nuclear winter' that would lower global temperature for a decade, always remained, New Scientist quoted him as saying.

The findings appear in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/jun/13indpak.htm

 

[Introvert]

Nuclear war between India and Pak would be a big mistake.I hope it never happens. I bet everyone on this forum agrees with me.

 

[joey]

rediff now a days seems to lost what article it needs to find, next nuclear war will be fought from submarines, a single SLBM can be mistaken if one mistakes to interrogate from whose submarine the thing popped up, and can cause global havoc.

ABM's are promising, interesting decade ahead, good that we have started a programme.

 

[Interceptor]

Nope, the use of nuclear weapons is not to annilhate a country but to make it blunt, by dropping a big nuke next to the country the EM waves of the whole spectrum will yield mega mega dispersion power which will cook all the semiconductors and electronical devices. Only systems that can withstand the high EM waves or no electronical systems will survive most countries before the electrical products are sold test the products against EM waves. Europe has dedicated companies that do this testing because knowing that Russia will drop the nuke in or around the North sea.

 

[joey]

All mil grade products are EMP hardened atleast ours are, but your right a nuke in pakistan will have efefct in India due to wind flow, same incase of Iran.

 

[Interceptor]

Joey, if Pakistan and India went for a nuke war the effects will be miner on India and Pakistan, however, major on the entire world, it is unknown the quantity of Nukes both nations have but if they have enough they can stop the movement of the earth or hinder it but that really remains a question mark if they have that many nukes and with credible yield. The other major effect will be release of EM pulse from the clouds the sky etc, as you probably know the law of physics, energy can not be created it can only be transfered, when so much energy will be transfered the effects will be lasting.

The particlized radiation will kill many people, and destroy the availability of farming therefore mankind will not be able to harvest any more.

The deadliest effect is durring this, is that when a Nuklear bomb goes off it sucks the air where it lay and basicly sucks all the dust or whatever material and sends them up in the air creating a mashroom that dust will block the sun's rays and it may take decades before they could ever go away.

 

[Samudra]

The world has seen even more evil scenarios and survived.

The ******** cold war was so effing worse than this....we survived.

 

[joey]

interceptor you havent understand many aspects of nuclear war, not that I want to tell pages after pages here, but lets do a little calculation with proper mind will tell you, Pakistan does not posess the amount of bombs to wipe India off.

A 50% succesful ABM shield will put tremendous psycological pressure , more than enough to retaliate back.

The very reason with 50 years of warhead stockpile, even Russian members are saying with US missile defence shield, the MAD may extinct and US might have huge leverage to just do a first strike and nail down Russia completely.

 

[Interceptor]

interceptor you havent understand many aspects of nuclear war, not that I want to tell pages after pages here, but lets do a little calculation with proper mind will tell you, Pakistan does not posess the amount of bombs to wipe India off.

A 50% succesful ABM shield will put tremendous psycological pressure , more than enough to retaliate back.

The very reason with 50 years of warhead stockpile, even Russian members are saying with US missile defence shield, the MAD may extinct and US might have huge leverage to just do a first strike and nail down Russia completely.

I dont understand how people say they can wipe a country off the face of the world, how can you wipe a country off??

How can you asses that Pakistan does not have enough, greater or less, knowing that if a Nuke war happened India nor Pakistan will survive the effects.

I would add that Pakistan has much better credible delivery systems than India and it is proven, the missiles Pakistan uses are solid stage and are rapid can be deployed in matter of minutes and attack, where as India lacks the ability of rapid deployment.

ABM how much will it stop joey 50%, is that it so lets say Russia launched a 1000 missiles then only 500 would make it, though only one is required to do the job.

ABM shield is very limited, the radar providing the data if gets in the way of EM wave the front side of the radar will be blown away in 2ms. How much will it save joey?

You compare a power like Russia that posses thousands of nukes, the reason behind the retaliation of the Russians is that the shield has the ability to reach with in russia and stop there missiles, therefore it is a bit similar to the Turkish cold war scenario where the Turks were given ICBM's that could target Russia, this is normal reaction by the Russians, anyways the ABM is not the most successful system out there.

 

[Always Neutral]

If India & Pakistan have a nuclear war...
June 13, 2007

An all out nuclear war between India and Pakistan will loft up to five million tons of black carbon soot into the atmosphere, and drop global temperatures by 1.4 degree Celsius, a Rutgers University study has said.

If that happens it would be a very sad day for mankind and asia. On a lighter side Pakistan, India, Nepal and Bangladesh will be united once and for all.

The new name of this united country will be The Republic of Wasteland.

Luckily good leadership exists in both countries and this scenario will always be on the drawing boards but the painting will never be painted.

Regards

 

[KashifAsrar]

Guys, you all fell to the trap here.
Why a nuclear war between India and Pakistan? How much they have in total: a few hundred at most. And they are trying the peace between themselves now.
Look at the USA and russians. they have thousands of nukes with un-imaginable outputs, mind boggling. And they are very much in new 'Cold-War' scenario recently.
The report totally outlooks the far greater destroying capabilities of the western countries.

He said while the US and Russia [Images] had destroyed thousands of warheads following their treaty on disarmament, India, Pakistan and North Korea had swelled their stockpiles.

See it! It try to show that a few hundred nukes are far greater threat to humanity than tens of thousands that west have!
Kashif

 

[Adux]

Though I agree with you, the article is trying to scare monger, and is baised.
There are some other points, which are valid in it.

India and Pakistan had a war as early as 1999 as well as they are still at each other's throats. None of us would be suprised if we had a war in the near future, while russia and us havent fought each for nearly 60 years, other than usual sabre ratlling.
Pakistan as a country right now is politically very unstable, and there is a good chance as much as any other secanrio that their country may fall into hands of mullah's.
There are more chances of India and Pakistan going to a nuclear war than any other country in the west

 

[dabong1]

Its just a bullsh*t article to keep the pakistanis and indians buying arms from the west.

 

[Always Neutral]

Its just a bullsh*t article to keep the pakistanis and indians buying arms from the west.

I agree and it should never ever happen.

Regards

 

[Neo]

Nuclear weapons sofar have only created balance between the rivals, India and Pakistan are no exception.
I don't believe there will be a nuclear exchange ever between us since there will be no winner, only losers.