If Imran Khan is Killed...

[TheSolution]

Bro I said this yesterday and people started having a tantrum.

Everyone knows it deep down but doesn't want to admit it, it's basically denial

They gave too much up for Pakistan and had high hopes.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

India- DEFIANTLY paying for Russian oil and gas.
Afghanistan- Fought a 20 year guerrilla war.

Pakistan- Cancelling CPEC projects.

You see the problem?

I'm well aware.. our russian deals are still intact. Nothing got cancelled YET..

 

[HAIDER]

Nawaz ‘plotting’ to create ‘Greater Punjab’: Zardari​

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— Ex-president thinks it unwise to drag ex-COAS in courts as his ‘home constituency’ may feel uncomfortable

Former president and Pakistan People’s Party Co-Chairman Asif Ali Zardari on Monday accused former prime minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif of ‘plotting’ to create a ‘Greater Punjab.’
“He (Nawaz) is talking about the ‘Greater Punjab’, as he thinks that here he only has 500 branches but there he will have 5,000 braches. It is only money and just money for him,” he said during an interview with Pakistan Today Editor Arif Nizami.
Zardari said that Nawaz Sharif wanted businesses of his own and his friends to thrive on both sides of the (Pak-India) border. “(India’s Prime Minister Narendra) Modi doesn’t come on my invitation. We have good relations with India’s Gandhi family but we don’t invite them over,” he said.
“Why people (from India) come here on their invitation? Their clothes are coming here and their products are coming here. We need to ask why,” he said while replying to a question pertaining to why there is an impression that Nawaz Sharif has a soft corner for India.
He said that timing was critical in politics and he always took steps keeping in view the timing of his political moves. He said that many political bigwigs of PML-N and the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) were in touch with him. He said that his party had allowed the PML-N to form a government in Punjab in the past.
However, he said that now his party to form the government in Punjab and the PML-N would have to sit in the opposition. About Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan’s presser, Zardari said that he (Nisar) had alarmed Nawaz Sharif that if he would be targeted, he would break his ‘silence’ on ‘news leaks’.
The former president said that he had already said that former ruler Pervez Musharraf would play golf after his retirement. He said that Pakistan was facing many challenges and it was unwise to drag a former army chief in courts as the home constituency of the former military chief would feel uncomfortable.
He did not agree with the claim that he wanted to send Nawaz Sharif to jail, saying he did not believe in sending anyone to jail. “Our party will form government at centre and in Punjab after the next election,” he said while replying to a question about how he sees his party in the future.
On Senate Chairman Raza Rabbani’s statement that the parliament had been weakened, Zardari said that he (Rabbani) had his own ideas. He said that Rabbani had come to him with his resignation due to certain reasons but he asked him to continue as democracy had to evolve.
He did not agree that the establishment had problems with him regarding Memogate controversy, saying it was Nawaz Sharif who went to the court while wearing a black coat. He said that Nawaz Sharif was always power hungry because Islami Jamhoori Ittehad (IJI) and the ‘Changa Manga’ deals were the best examples to prove it.
He said that neither Imran Khan nor the military establishment was behind the Panama Papers case and rather it was his (Nawaz’s) own follies. Commenting on the farewell dinner given to him as a president by Nawaz Sharif, Zardair said that he (Nawaz) invited two Sindhi nationalists who were there to taunt him along with the second tier leadership of the army.
He agreed that it was more of a bid to undermine him. About Dr Muhammad Asim, he said that he (Asim) was from a family which had rendered services for the nation. He taunted that his party did not hold rallies on disqualification of Yousaf Raza Gilani the way Nawaz Sharif was doing now. He also taunted the former prime minister that he was trying to portray him as an ideologue jumping from the lap of General Ziaul Haq.
Considering the PTI is on decline, he said that his party was strong in South Punjab and were good in central Punjab and would bounce back. He appreciated Babar Awan’s role in the party and said that he was his good friend. “We cannot stop people from leaving our party,” he said.
When asked about the chances of forming a coalition government, he said that they would decide after the formation of the new parliament. More independents will come from Punjab and will stand with one who has the most seats in the House, he said.
About the CPEC and who initiated it and to whom the credit goes, Zardari said that it won’t matter whether PML-N was in power or not. “We gave them another port. During our government, we worked on Gwadar Port. China’s President Xi Jinping took the whole matter to another level,” he said
“He (Nawaz) has taken us in isolation. (Then Afghan president Hamid) Karzai came to my oath, I went to his. We have issues, we know that people come from Afghanistan and they are sent by India. Still we need to work on our relation,” he replied when asked about the international scenario and its effects on Pakistan.
When asked that how he managed to survive the Memogate, Salala gate, and other issues, he said that basically, it was God’s blessing and prayers of the poor and tolerance. “I’ve never used PEMRA or any other institute for personal use, ever,” he said, adding that he doesn’t sense any threats to democracy from the inside.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Then Nawaz will be called Nawaz Prem Partab Singh and wear Sardar pagh ... back to the ancestry. Nawaz greater Punjab dream and become the life time ruler....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1323949787071369216

well he is right- the reason why I called him a proper traitor since forever and hate him with a passion
nawaz sharif- teri pehn nu l*******, ghashti da putar .......

unfortunately, not a lot of people know this side of NS- when I talk to his supporters about his traitor side
they genuinely get taken aback (although Zardari is no saint either...)

that's why I agree with @ziaulislam take on Maryam and this clan trying to turn us into Bangladesh

 

[Goritoes]

The thing here to notice is that IK is famous in KPK, a huge part of his support is from Pashtoon's who are known fighters, and lets not forget the incitement that comes from Afghan national, they will use this political murder to rally Pathans to break away from Punjab and rest of Pakistan because they killed their leader, even if 50,000 resist and goes on civil war mode that is done, the entire KPK/Islamabad will be hostage, seeing that in Karachi Parties like MQM will rise again and demand separation from Sindh or even Pakistan, and this time Rangers/Army would have to kill a lot more than 1992 Operation, Baluchistan is already in Chaos their separatists leaders will see this opportunity and grab it with both hands, India will funnel thousands of dollars and weapons from Afghanistan and Iran, and this Time Army will be so stretched and lost its reputation there will be no sympathy left for them in the people either KPK or Baluchistan, as for the current leaders most of them will run to UK/USA in a heart beat, and who can't will run to their strongholds and seal the entire cities or towns with their loyal supporters but this time with Guns and Rocket's, in all of that TTP/ISIS/JuA will start recruiting using the same Islamic system/Shariah lollipop and make no mistake even if few hundreds joined them as Fidayeen then the entire Pakistan will burn, in that Weakness and vulnerable situation Indians can/might/will enter AJK and Pakistan can not defend, Chinese are already upset with Pakistan so they won't come to Pakistan rescue just like US didn't and if US stand behind India then yeah there goes the AJK, also death of IK will increase the atmosphere of mistrust so that will reach AJK as well and voices will rise " that maybe we are better off with India ", and Army will have to do a bloodbath to stop the level of resistance or protest, or those who will want to lynch the Imported Govt and its ministers, I think the most dangerous thing in this whole situation is that Army which always enjoy people's trust is in its all time low reputation and this time a lot of people will show no Sympathy towards them, as they were active part of the removal of IK and later which leads to his " Possible " assassination.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

The thing here to notice is that IK is famous in KPK, a huge part of his support is from Pashtoon's who are known fighters, and lets not forget the incitement that comes from Afghan national, they will use this political murder to rally Pathans to break away from Punjab and rest of Pakistan because they killed their leader, even if 50,000 resist and goes on civil war mode that is done, the entire KPK/Islamabad will be hostage, seeing that in Karachi Parties like MQM will rise again and demand separation from Sindh or even Pakistan, and this time Rangers/Army would have to kill a lot more than 1992 Operation, Baluchistan is already in Chaos their separatists leaders will see this opportunity and grab it with both hands, India will funnel thousands of dollars and weapons from Afghanistan and Iran, and this Time Army will be so stretched and lost its reputation there will be no sympathy left for them in the people either KPK or Baluchistan, as for the current leaders most of them will run to UK/USA in a heart beat, and who can't will run to their strongholds and seal the entire cities or towns with their loyal supporters but this time with Guns and Rocket's, in all of that TTP/ISIS/JuA will start recruiting using the same Islamic system/Shariah lollipop and make no mistake even if few hundreds joined them as Fidayeen then the entire Pakistan will burn, in that Weakness and vulnerable situation Indians can/might/will enter AJK and Pakistan can not defend, Chinese are already upset with Pakistan so they won't come to Pakistan rescue just like US didn't and if US stand behind India then yeah there goes the AJK, also death of IK will increase the atmosphere of mistrust so that will reach AJK as well and voices will rise " that maybe we are better off with India ", and Army will have to do a bloodbath to stop the level of resistance or protest, or those who will want to lynch the Imported Govt and its ministers, I think the most dangerous thing in this whole situation is that Army which always enjoy people's trust is in its all time low reputation and this time a lot of people will show no Sympathy towards them, as they were active part of the removal of IK and later which leads to his " Possible " assassination.

Yup!

 

[Moriro]

I don't think any one of us are saying this but just expressing our concerns.


When was this? Which reality you living in. Scared of MQM????

Ok forget Mqm, They even surrendered against TTP, remember when Sufi Muhammad used to impose their own kind of shariat and their was appearantly no resistance by the people back then until army intervened. A real conflict is a real conflict. Some fake chest thumping won't change the reality

Taking a whole city hostage wouldn't be considered "tiny". Demographics changed tho. Karachi has the biggest number of Pashtuns now.

Says who?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Lahoris would continue to support mian saanp

Yeah South Punjab would be angry

I also thought the same until I attended a few demonstrations in Lahore (including the 21st April Minar e Pakistan Jalsa) and interacted with different people. People here are really angry, and rightly so

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Everyone knows it deep down but doesn't want to admit it, it's basically denial

They gave too much up for Pakistan and had high hopes.

One guy on here was trying to convince me that Indian Punjabis and Pakistani Punjabis are racially different. I think this weird fanboying and nationalism has just rotted people's minds.

 

[TheSolution]

The thing here to notice is that IK is famous in KPK, a huge part of his support is from Pashtoon's who are known fighters, and lets not forget the incitement that comes from Afghan national, they will use this political murder to rally Pathans to break away from Punjab and rest of Pakistan because they killed their leader, even if 50,000 resist and goes on civil war mode that is done, the entire KPK/Islamabad will be hostage, seeing that in Karachi Parties like MQM will rise again and demand separation from Sindh or even Pakistan, and this time Rangers/Army would have to kill a lot more than 1992 Operation, Baluchistan is already in Chaos their separatists leaders will see this opportunity and grab it with both hands, India will funnel thousands of dollars and weapons from Afghanistan and Iran, and this Time Army will be so stretched and lost its reputation there will be no sympathy left for them in the people either KPK or Baluchistan, as for the current leaders most of them will run to UK/USA in a heart beat, and who can't will run to their strongholds and seal the entire cities or towns with their loyal supporters but this time with Guns and Rocket's, in all of that TTP/ISIS/JuA will start recruiting using the same Islamic system/Shariah lollipop and make no mistake even if few hundreds joined them as Fidayeen then the entire Pakistan will burn, in that Weakness and vulnerable situation Indians can/might/will enter AJK and Pakistan can not defend, Chinese are already upset with Pakistan so they won't come to Pakistan rescue just like US didn't and if US stand behind India then yeah there goes the AJK, also death of IK will increase the atmosphere of mistrust so that will reach AJK as well and voices will rise " that maybe we are better off with India ", and Army will have to do a bloodbath to stop the level of resistance or protest, or those who will want to lynch the Imported Govt and its ministers, I think the most dangerous thing in this whole situation is that Army which always enjoy people's trust is in its all time low reputation and this time a lot of people will show no Sympathy towards them, as they were active part of the removal of IK and later which leads to his " Possible " assassination.

If this situation breaks out, it's going to be a lot bloodier than people think

We can't rule out tactical nukes if establishment is pushed.

Practically a genocide will take place

One guy on here was trying to convince me that Indian Punjabis and Pakistani Punjabis are racially different. I think this weird fanboying and nationalism has just rotted people's minds.

Nah he's a tad bit special, I think the average Pakistani wouldn't argue with that, just go to Punjab and ask them lool

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Says who?

With as high as 7 million by some estimates, the city of Karachi in Pakistan has the largest concentration of urban Pakhtun population in the world, including 50,000 registered Afghan refugees in the city, meaning there are more Pashtuns in Karachi than in any other city in the world.

 

[Psychiatrist Monica Chib]

Agree.. if 10-12 protestors are killed in every city, the protests will be over.

There's a different between Pakistani and Turkish/ Syrian/ French nations.

Does not 10-12 lives matter to you ? It is highly enough to bring an Establishment to its knees id still a ghairatmand is there in the ranks. Remember when Egyptian forces entered the city they were kissed and blessed by egyptian people.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Lahoris would continue to support mian saanp

Yeah South Punjab would be angry

2-3 years ago probably
things have changed... go there

Does not 10-12 lives matter to you ? It is highly enough to bring an Establishment to its knees id still a ghairatmand is there in the ranks. Remember when Egyptian forces entered the city they were kissed and blessed by egyptian people.

why is this guy here?

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

If this situation breaks out, it's going to be a lot bloodier than people think

We can't rule out tactical nukes if establishment is pushed.

Practically a genocide will take place


Nah he's a tad bit special, I think the average Pakistani wouldn't argue with that, just go to Punjab and ask them look

You are definitely bleak. Get some medical help.

 

[Basel]

Bangladesh was on other side.

So what do you want? We merge with India and live under Modi? Because IK is not PM.

Since long it's on the table with west that if Pakistan as nation didn't become submissive state to India and breaking it into pieces will be only option, to allow India to be potent regional power and completely focused on China instead of having headache of Pakistan.