ICA orders India to stop work on Kishan Ganga Dam

[toxic_pus]

i am sorry can someone sumarize this beating around the bush and explain what the ICJ really said!

Means, India can go ahead with all sorts of construction except for constructing any permanent structure, on the riverbed, that may prevent restoration of full flow of the river, in case, the final verdict goes against India and requires such restoration of the flow of river.

It is far from being an a 'stoppage of work' (stay) order.

 

[indiatester]

i am sorry can someone sumarize this beating around the bush and explain what the ICJ really said!

In Indian terms:
Can build anything (temporary or Permanent) on the river except for structures that modify river flow permanently till the final order is delivered.
In Pakistani terms:
India cannot construct structures that will modify irreversibly the full flow of the river till the final order is delivered.

Definitely not the Pakistani victory the initial posts have suggested. Not by a long way.

 

[Roybot]

“Permanent works above the riverbed is not allowed. But India can go ahead with construction of powerhouse, tunneling works, constructing coffer dams, temporary bypass tunnel and concretisation under the riverbed for the dam,” a member of the Indian delegation that went to The Hague for the hearing on the Pakistani plea late last month told The Indian Express.

Indian government sources claimed the decision was “not a setback” and India has “ample freedom” to continue with almost the entire range of construction activities for the project other than the dam itself. Officials, however, conceded there was a “risk” in going ahead. “We may continue all other works at our risk, knowing well that the dam construction is still under dispute and all other construction will go waste if the final decision does not turn out to be in our favour. Definitely that risk remains,” said an official.

Kishanganga: Hague court halts ‘permanent works’ - Indian Express

 

[Vasily Zaytsev]

Lol...


Told yo so............

A Pakistani Source.............


http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=9118&Cat=13



Nation misled on Kishanganga ‘victory’





ISLAMABAD: Special assistant to prime minister on water and agriculture, Kamal Majidulllah, has misled the nation by speaking half truth that the court of arbitration (CoA) at The Hague has stopped India from constructing any permanent works on or above the Kishanganga/Neelum River bed at the Gurez site that may inhibit the restoration of the flow of the river to its natural channel.

This time, Majidullah who is also Pakistan’s agent in the case of Kishengange project, befooled the nation like it happened during the Musharraf regime when former federal minister for water and power Liaqaut Jatoi, former secretary water and power Ashfaq Mehmood and former commissioner of PCIW (Pakistan Commission of Indus Water) Jamaat Ali Shah had misled the nation by saying Pakistan had won the case of Baglihar hydropower project, which was not the case.

Majidullah should have held a press conference over the ‘achievement’ but he cleverly used the undisputed platform of the Presidency for issuing a statement that CoA has stopped India from constructing any permanent works on or above the Kishanganga/Neelum River bed at the Gurez site that might inhibit the restoration of the flow of the river to its natural channel.

However, New Delhi has now come up with a forceful contradiction of the interpretation by Pakistan of the interim decision. Quoting the International Court of Arbitration it said that India can “continue with all works” related to the Kishanganga hydro-electric project in Jammu and Kashmir except any permanent work on the riverbed that may inhibit restoration of the river’s full flow”.

In the interim ruling issued on Friday the court in The Hague, which was approached by Pakistan, said it was necessary to lay down certain interim measures in order to “avoid prejudice to the final solution” of the dispute as provided under the Indus Waters Treaty of 1960.

While proceedings continued at the Court, the ruling said, it “is open to India to continue with all works relating to the Kishanganga hydro-electric project” except “any permanent works on or above the Kishanganga-Neelum riverbed at the Gurez site that may inhibit the restoration of the full flow of that river to its natural channel” after the final verdict.

The ruling, a copy of which is available with The News, stated that India “could proceed with the construction of the sub-surface foundations” of the dam, “erect temporary cofferdams and operate the by-pass tunnel it has said to have completed”, “temporarily dry out the riverbed of the Kishanganga-Neelum at the Gurez valley” and “excavate the riverbed.”

The interim ruling further said India “may utilise the temporary diversion tunnel it is said to have completed at the Gurez site, and may construct and complete temporary cofferdams to permit the operation of the temporary diversion tunnel.”

However, CoA has given some relief to Pakistan just because of the campaign that Pakistan’s print and electronic media has launched against India, highlighting that the environment of the Neelum Valley would be destroyed in case Kishangnage project gets completed.

When contacted Arshad H Abbasi, an eminent water expert said: “We all ought to wait for official press release of CoA. In case of Baglihar dam former secretary water & power had claimed victory, but two years later when I got access to all the papers it occurred that Pakistan had actually lost the case to India”.

 

[jha]

Lol...


Told yo so............

A Pakistani Source.............


Nation misled on Kishanganga



Nation misled on Kishanganga ‘victory’





ISLAMABAD: Special assistant to prime minister on water and agriculture, Kamal Majidulllah, has misled the nation by speaking half truth that the court of arbitration (CoA) at The Hague has stopped India from constructing any permanent works on or above the Kishanganga/Neelum River bed at the Gurez site that may inhibit the restoration of the flow of the river to its natural channel.

This time, Majidullah who is also Pakistan’s agent in the case of Kishengange project, befooled the nation like it happened during the Musharraf regime when former federal minister for water and power Liaqaut Jatoi, former secretary water and power Ashfaq Mehmood and former commissioner of PCIW (Pakistan Commission of Indus Water) Jamaat Ali Shah had misled the nation by saying Pakistan had won the case of Baglihar hydropower project, which was not the case.

Majidullah should have held a press conference over the ‘achievement’ but he cleverly used the undisputed platform of the Presidency for issuing a statement that CoA has stopped India from constructing any permanent works on or above the Kishanganga/Neelum River bed at the Gurez site that might inhibit the restoration of the flow of the river to its natural channel.

However, New Delhi has now come up with a forceful contradiction of the interpretation by Pakistan of the interim decision. Quoting the International Court of Arbitration it said that India can “continue with all works” related to the Kishanganga hydro-electric project in Jammu and Kashmir except any permanent work on the riverbed that may inhibit restoration of the river’s full flow”.

In the interim ruling issued on Friday the court in The Hague, which was approached by Pakistan, said it was necessary to lay down certain interim measures in order to “avoid prejudice to the final solution” of the dispute as provided under the Indus Waters Treaty of 1960.

While proceedings continued at the Court, the ruling said, it “is open to India to continue with all works relating to the Kishanganga hydro-electric project” except “any permanent works on or above the Kishanganga-Neelum riverbed at the Gurez site that may inhibit the restoration of the full flow of that river to its natural channel” after the final verdict.

The ruling, a copy of which is available with The News, stated that India “could proceed with the construction of the sub-surface foundations” of the dam, “erect temporary cofferdams and operate the by-pass tunnel it has said to have completed”, “temporarily dry out the riverbed of the Kishanganga-Neelum at the Gurez valley” and “excavate the riverbed.”

The interim ruling further said India “may utilise the temporary diversion tunnel it is said to have completed at the Gurez site, and may construct and complete temporary cofferdams to permit the operation of the temporary diversion tunnel.”

However, CoA has given some relief to Pakistan just because of the campaign that Pakistan’s print and electronic media has launched against India, highlighting that the environment of the Neelum Valley would be destroyed in case Kishangnage project gets completed.

When contacted Arshad H Abbasi, an eminent water expert said: “We all ought to wait for official press release of CoA. In case of Baglihar dam former secretary water & power had claimed victory, but two years later when I got access to all the papers it occurred that Pakistan had actually lost the case to India”.

A BIG LOL......

 

[DarK-LorD]

Trusting Pakistani media is like trusting a super-model wife(You know what I mean).

 

[S.M.R]

Trusting Pakistani media is like trusting a super-model wife(You know what I mean).

It was not a media fault, it simply aired the statement given by Special Assistant to Prime Minister.

 

[rockstarIN]

So the air is clean now

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Lol..haha ha

first the wikileaks and then this...A BIG LOL..

and they say pakistani media is better than Indian media...

 

[Avishek]

Epic fail.

 

[karan.1970]

Hate to say " I told you so".. But then some times you gotta do even those things that you dont like

Its the same story as the other dam too.. Some lazy bums are just too eager to claim victory without even reading and understanding the details..

 

[Awesome]

India is still allowed to do some of the non permanent work like excavation but can't build the actual dam over the excavated site.

It's ICA, not ICJ

Oh and, can I say wow. These guys actually managed to get one through India. Baglihar dam was on the edge, however Kishan Ganga is designed to harm Pakistan and I hope the ICA sees through it and prevents that from happening.

 

[Mo12]

India is still allowed to do some of the non permanent work like excavation but can't build the actual dam over the excavated site.

It's ICA, not ICJ

Oh and, can I say wow. These guys actually managed to get one through India. Baglihar dam was on the edge, however Kishan Ganga is designed to harm Pakistan and I hope the ICA sees through it and prevents that from happening.

Well in that case I hope the China damn in Tibet will be stopped as it harms NE India and Bangladesh.

But would China listen? No, because its a super power.

India needs to as ruthless as China.

 

[indiatester]

It was not a media fault, it simply aired the statement given by Special Assistant to Prime Minister.

What???
And the media does not check/verify anything?
I mean they are not mere official channels of communication of GoP. People pay to get their news.

 

[shuntmaster]

ICA: India can continue work
ICA: India can continue work | The Asian Age
Sep 26, 2011 - REZAUL H. LASKAR | PTI | Islamabad

India can “continue with all works” related to the Kishenganga hydro-electric project in Jammu and Kashmir except any permanent work on the riverbed that may inhibit restoration of the river’s full flow, the International Court of Arbitration has said.
In an interim ruling issued on Friday, the court in The Hague, which was approached by Pakistan, said it was necessary to lay down certain interim measures in order to “avoid prejudice to the final solution” of the dispute as provided under the Indus Waters Treaty of 1960.
While proceedings continued at the Court, the ruling said, it “is open to India to continue with all works relating to the Kishenganga hydroelectric project” except “any permanent works on or above the Kishenganga-Neelum riverbed at the Gurez site that may inhibit the restoration of the full flow of that river to its natural channel” after the final verdict.
The ruling, a copy of which has been accessed by PTI, stated that India “could proceed with the construction of the sub-surface foundations” of the dam, “erect temporary cofferdams and operate the bypass tunnel it has said to have completed”, “temporarily dry out the riverbed of the Kishenganga-Neelum at the Gurez Valley” and “excavate the riverbed”.
The court said that, under the current timetable, it intended to give its final verdict “late in 2012 or early in 2013”.
It said: “It follows that it cannot be ‘necessary’ to order a halt of any construction activity on the (Kishenganga project) that will take place after the issuance of the court’s final award.”
The ruling further said India “may utilise the temporary diversion tunnel it is said to have completed at the Gurez site, and may construct and complete temporary cofferdams to permit the operation of the temporary diversion tunnel.” The court gave its interim ruling in response to an appeal filed by Pakistan, which alleged India was diverting the flow of the river and violating the Indus Waters Treaty by going ahead with the project.