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IAF's Sukhoi jets to be upgraded to fifth generation fighters

Moscow, Aug 18 (IANS) India's air superiority Sukhoi-30MKI fighters will soon be converted into 'Super Sukhois' by upgrading them with fifth generation combat jet features, the Russian original equipment manufacturer Irkut Corporation has announced.
The upgrade will include a new cockpit, an upgraded radar and advanced stealth characteristics to make the plane less visible to enemy radar than the existing Indian Air Force (IAF) Sukhoi-30 fleet, Irkut's president and chairman Alexy Fedorov said at the Moscow Air Show here.
The IAF currently has five operational Sukhoi 30MKI squadrons numbering around 100
aircraft. It will ultimately have over 230 Sukhoi-30MKIs or 13 squadrons in its fleet.
The fleet is under licenced production at the Bangalore-based Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and the entire fleet will be upgraded to the 'Super Sukhoi' configuration.
'The upgrade will apply not only to the aircraft in service with the Indian Air Force (IAF) but also to those yet to be delivered to India and to be licence-manufactured by HAL,' Fedorov said.
Most significantly, the aircraft will be able to carry a heavier weapon load, including the airborne version of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, he added.
Fedorov said the 'Super Sukhoi' will be a potent aircraft similar in features to a fifth generation aircraft. However, he refused to provide specific details of the upgrade, stating that the exact nature of this was still to be decided between the Indian and Russian sides.
Discussions are currently on regarding various aspects of the proposed upgrade, he said.
The Irkut chief did not provide any indication of the cost of the upgrade project. However, going by the general cost trends of similar upgrades, the price could run close to $1 billion.
Meanwhile, HAL is upbeat over its participation in the cutting-edge technology fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) project.
The Sukhoi T-50 aircraft -- also called the PAK-FA -- unveiled at the Moscow International Air Show (MAKS) 2011 Wednesday will make India the only country outside of the US and Russia to have a fifth generation fighter.
HAL chairman Ashok Naik, who is here for the MAKS, told Defenseworld.net that HAL's participation in the project is 'well on track' with a preliminary design contract signed between India and Russia for $295 million.
The preliminary designing could take about 18 months to conclude. Detailed design work would then follow during which the full scope of the project would be defined. The basic requirement for the Indian fighter would be a twin-seater configuration, he added.
'HAL is keen to complete the design phase and move forward on the project,' Naik said, adding that the specific details of the Indian components that will go into the FGFA will be decided during the detailed design phase.
HAL will be working with its Russian partner United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) in co-developing an export version of which the IAF will be the first customer.
India has expressed a requirement of 250 to 300 PAK-FAs, which are scheduled for an Indian induction beginning 2016-17 and the procurement cost of the fleet is likely to exceed $35 billion. Russia too requires equal numbers of the jet.
IAF's Sukhoi jets to be upgraded to fifth generation fighters - Yahoo!
 
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Su-30 MKI is a formidable beast but it can never be even close to 5th gen.

It's a Godzilla on a radar screen. The words Su-30 MKI and Stealth are antonyms.
The article does not say it is.It says it will be upgraded to 5th gen specs. Russian definition of 5th gen is as follows. Besides, it already is heavily modified as compared to the base-line version. I'm sure they have gained significant test results during the initial designing of the upgrades to incorporate additional advanced features.

1)All-aspect stealth even when armed, Low Probability of Intercept Radar (LPIR)
2) High-performance air frames, advanced avionics features
3)Capability to super cruise
4) Highly integrated computer systems capable of networking with other elements within the theater of war in order to achieve an advantage in situational awareness.
 
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The upgrade will include a new cockpit, an upgraded radar and advanced stealth characteristics to make the plane less visible to enemy radar. Fedorov said the 'Super Sukhoi' will be a potent aircraft similar in features to a fifth generation aircraft.


Bahoot achcha!!! :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:




PAK FA
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The standard for 5th generation is stealth, and the ability to super cruise. Can the MKI super cruise? and also without heavy structural changes equivalent to an entire new design, how can it be converted into stealth or low observable. RAM can be applied but then again to what extent will it reduce the RCS of a jet, the size of MKI?
 
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The standard for 5th generation is stealth, and the ability to super cruise. Can the MKI super cruise? and also without heavy structural changes equivalent to an entire new design, how can it be converted into stealth or low observable. RAM can be applied but then again to what extent will it reduce the RCS of a jet, the size of MKI?

I hope it will be structural change and passive stealth like that on SU-35 BM. With more powerful engine MKI should super cruise. If PAK FA can why can't MKI with same thrust, weight and size.

Not full stealth like 5th generation fighter but much less than other fourth generation I hope.
 
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The standard for 5th generation is stealth, and the ability to super cruise. Can the MKI super cruise? and also without heavy structural changes equivalent to an entire new design, how can it be converted into stealth or low observable. RAM can be applied but then again to what extent will it reduce the RCS of a jet, the size of MKI?



This is Article headline

"IAF's Sukhoi jets to be upgraded to fifth generation fighters"

This is what it says

"India's air superiority Sukhoi-30MKI fighters will soon be converted into 'Super Sukhois' by upgrading them with fifth generation combat jet features"

Any 10grad student will see how badly title is written. Its typical Aaj-tak/India-TV title... Don't mislead by it.. The appropriate title would be "42 IAF's Sukhoi jets to be upgraded to Super Sukhoi"...

 
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This is Article headline

"IAF's Sukhoi jets to be upgraded to fifth generation fighters"

This is what it says

"India's air superiority Sukhoi-30MKI fighters will soon be converted into 'Super Sukhois' by upgrading them with fifth generation combat jet features"

Any 10grad student will see how badly title is written. Its typical Aaj-tak/India-TV title... Don't mislead by it.. The appropriate title would be "42 IAF's Sukhoi jets to be upgraded to Super Sukhoi"...


What are those 5th generation features?
1 Stealth low observability?
2) Super Cruise?
3) next generation BVR missile?
4) AESA radar?

I have read what the article says, number 3 and 4 can be achieved but what about first and second?
 
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The preliminary designing could take about 18 months to conclude. Detailed design work would then follow during which the full scope of the project would be defined. The basic requirement for the Indian fighter would be a twin-seater configuration, he added.
'HAL is keen to complete the design phase and move forward on the project,' Naik said, adding that the specific details of the Indian components that will go into the FGFA will be decided during the detailed design phase.
HAL will be working with its Russian partner United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) in co-developing an export version of which the IAF will be the first customer.
India has expressed a requirement of 250 to 300 PAK-FAs, which are scheduled for an Indian induction beginning 2016-17 and the procurement cost of the fleet is likely to exceed $35 billion. Russia too requires equal numbers of the jet.




FGFA design complete in 18 months. :guns:
 
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if we done all these modifications... it will turned out be completely new fighter.....
 
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I hope it will be structural change and passive stealth like that on SU-35 BM. With more powerful engine MKI should super cruise. If PAK FA can why can't MKI with same thrust, weight and size.

Not full stealth like 5th generation fighter but much less than other fourth generation I hope.

We are talking about huge structural change, which would require complete redesigning of the Plane. I have doubts on this news but i shall wait for more news to surface on this one.
Engines alone are not the only factor for super cruise. If i am not wrong there has to be structural changes to support that.
 
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