IAF clears proposal to buy three C-17; Boeing says only one plane left to sell

[Abingdonboy]

We need those really pronto. The Chinooks will need some lead time to get inducted. Inducting the Herks is simpler. All the ALG and airfield upgradation in the NE also needs to get done ASAP.
Then the "last-mile" delivery system will be in place.

Of course the Chinooks are going to take, at minimum, three years to get into service and become fully operationalised by the IAF. The infrastructure for the next lot of Hercs has been going on for the past few years by the IAF and Lockheed Martin at both Hindon and Paragrah AFBs and is already inservice with the IAF so can simply "slot in".

 

[airmarshal]

Why India does not go for A400M?

The production and deliveries started last year. India will have all the time to procrastinate, to deliberate. If it wants, India can take 20 years to decide. No worries. Take your time.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Why India does not go for A400M?

The production and deliveries started last year. India will have all the time to procrastinate, to deliberate. If it wants, India can take 20 years to decide. No worries. Take your time.

10 C-17s are already in service with the IAF and thus wants me of this type, the IAF may well get A400s in time but that is a separate matter.


+ the A400 production line won't be open in 20 years.

 

[cirr]

Make your own large transporters in the spirit of “Make in India”。

 

[volatile]

Just dont crash these birdies like you are doing with C-130s

 

[punit]

NEW DELHI: The Indian Air Force appears to have taken too long to push through a Rs 8,100 crore proposal to buy three new Boeing C-17 transport aircraft. The American manufacturer simply does not have that many aircraft to sell anymore, having pledged four of the last five C-17s in its production line to Qatar.

After months of efforts, the air force, at a Services Capital Acquisition Plan meeting on July 31, managed to push through the proposal to add three aircraft to its existing fleet of 10 Boeing C-17s that were ordered in 2011. Officials said the proposal is likely to be taken up by the high powered Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) shortly.

However, Boeing officials have gone on record to say that after signing the contract with Qatar the company is left with just one C-17 for sale. With its production facility for the aircraft at Long Beach in shut-down mode, the company has already halted the production line.

Boeing had five C-17 aircraft to sell when the air force first moved the proposal in April, as ET had first reported.

Officials said the air force could get committed aircraft from US inventory or retracted orders of a third country, but the chances of this happening are slim. A solution cannot be ruled out, they said, given that the deal is being processed under the Foreign Military Sales pact.

In April, the air force had impressed upon the government the need to induct three more of the very heavy transport aircraft because the planes have been involved in several rescue operations, including aid to earthquake hit Nepal, since their induction in 2013.

As per the 2011 contract, which was worth $4.7 billion, India had an option clause to purchase six additional C-17s over its order of ten. However, a paucity of funds never saw the follow-on order being processed.

IAF clears proposal to buy three C 17; Boeing says only one plane left to sell - The Economic Times

It took them so many months to make a simple decision,looks like DefMin was busy selling Mirchi and attending press conferences.

do not worry !HAL AND DRDO can make better and cheaper planes than C17! give them 200 years and unlimited money !

We can get IL 76 ; dont worry

USA also has Too many C 17 At least One can be sold to India

IL 76 are not comparable with C 17 ! Used C 17 is our only option now ~!

 

[Indian Patriot]

do not worry !HAL AND DRDO can make better and cheaper planes than C17! give them 200 years and unlimited money !

The first prototype will fly out in 2100 after TOT.

 

[Gessler]

Just dont crash these birdies like you are doing with C-130s

Don't tell us to be careful with C130s.....it makes me laugh.

ZIA OF PAKISTAN KILLED AS BLAST DOWNS PLANE - U.S. ENVOY, 28 OTHERS DIE - NYTimes.com

LOL.

Will more than likely go this way:


As noted in the article, this being a FMS deal means there is a lot of scope for out of the box thinking and the USAF has plenty of near new C-17s laying around in storage.

I have heard the plan was to have around 26 C-17s total...let's make 20 a more realistic interim figure.

Surely I'd think the price of ~10-16 more planes should be enough to make Boeing reopen the line on a limited scale? We might have to pay extra though...but with C-17, I'd guess it would be worth it given our increasing international role and need to have forces transported over long distances.

Do you think it could be feasible to have Boeing shift the production line to India altogether? Ofcourse catering to just IAF's requirement of maximum 10-16 more aircraft won't be enough to justify a production line...the plant will need to be bigger, able to handle MRO and other maintenance activities for all C-17s on the East side of the world to promise a revenue stream enough to justify such a plant.

This might seem like a far-fetched idea...but since C-17s would not produced in US no more, it might be possible for Boeing and other involved parties to shift some of their skilled workforce to their plant in India...the agency responsible for production here (Boeing India or maybe TASL) will have to strike up continuing deals with several component suppliers and OEMs who have facilitated the C17 production in US...including Pratt & Whitney.

 

[cloud_9]

Production lines can reopen

After a few years USAF will demand new planes
to replace the old ones

Tooling goes to the bin,equipment will be auctioned and the Long Beach property will be up for grabs.

 

[INDIAISM]

Don't tell us to be careful with 130s.....it makes me laugh.

ZIA OF PAKISTAN KILLED AS BLAST DOWNS PLANE - U.S. ENVOY, 28 OTHERS DIE - NYTimes.com

LOL.



I have heard the plan was to have around 26 C-17s total...let's make 20 a more realistic interim figure.

Surely I'd think the price of ~10-16 more planes should be enough to make Boeing reopen the line on a limited scale? We might have to pay extra though...but with C-17, I'd guess it would be worth it given our increasing international role and need to have forces transported over long distances.

Do you think it could be feasible to have Boeing shift the production line to India altogether? Ofcourse catering to just IAF's requirement of maximum 10-16 more aircraft won't be enough to justify a production line...the plant will need to be bigger, able to handle MRO and other maintenance activities for all C-17s on the East side of the world to promise a revenue stream enough to justify such a plant.

This might seem like a far-fetched idea...but since C-17s would not produced in US no more, it might be possible for Boeing and other involved parties to shift some of their skilled workforce to their plant in India...the agency responsible for production here (Boeing India or maybe TASL) will have to strike up continuing deals with several component suppliers and OEMs who have facilitated the C17 production in US...including Pratt & Whitney.

I had read somewhere that boeing was ready to shift the entire production line to India if IAF had committed to purchase 40 C 17....

 

[Gessler]

I had read somewhere that boeing was ready to shift the entire production line to India if IAF had committed to purchase 40 C 17....

Although 40 might seem overkill...it might even be feasible if bought in tranches. I have no idea how many India
could need in the future, but honestly I'd think 26 is enough.

 

[Magi Brahmin]

Just dont crash these birdies like you are doing with C-130s

hmm... nice advice see our piloats are dumb and they don't even know how to take off properly. that's why we need advice from our big, bravest and coolest Pakistani cousins

thank you again

Make your own large transporters in the spirit of “Make in India”。

nooooo......

 

[GURU DUTT]

Although 40 might seem overkill...it might even be feasible if bought in tranches. I have no idea how many India
could need in the future, but honestly I'd think 26 is enough.

jitne ane the aa chukke ab bhool jao C-17s ko

 

[[Bregs]]

jitne ane the aa chukke ab bhool jao C-17s ko

Now back to our friend IL 76 Gajraj

 

[GURU DUTT]

Now back to our friend IL 76 Gajraj

in short laut ke bhuddu ghar ko aye

but why not ruslan