I, The Pakistani Pledge Allegiance:----

[SQ8]

Does this mean @MastanKhan is in danger on his next trip over? He will be missed here!

Probably. At the least he will be thrown out of Islam for pledging allegiance to Pakistan instead of the Caliphate.

 

[Viper0011.]

Nationalism is as dangerous as religious fanaticism..

I agree, India is a great case study that links directly to your post!

 

[RAMPAGE]

@MastanKhan

Compulsory military service is the way to go.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

If one can pledge allegiance to a person " Caliph" ---then why can't the pledge of allegiance be to a higher authority---the flag of the nation---pledge to the rule of law---pledge to justice---and pledge my allegiance to a nation created under God for muslims to live and cherish---.

A person is fallible---but not a nation---a person can deviate from the path--- a nation does not---a person can lie cheat or steal---a nation does not----.

So---truthfully---a pledge can only be allegiant to a nation and not a person---.

@MastanKhan

Compulsory military service is the way to go.

Hi,

All jobless adult males to be sent to labor camps for national projects or military service---and at the start of every work day---they need to state the pledge of allegiance

 

[RAMPAGE]

Hi,

All jobless adult males to be sent to labor camps ....... and at the start of every work day---they need to state the pledge of allegiance

Jesus!

 

[livingdead]

Hi,

Really----why don't teach that to Mr Modi and your countrymen first.

yello.
i am just a dude on internet..

 

[Salik]

In my last work place there was fifteen minute session every morning, boss and all employees used to gather in main gallery, wishes for the day and discuss minor issues. It was very pleasant and productive.

This can be applied on larger scale. Govt can do it in its offices and ask private firms as well. I mean its workable and very simple.

 

[VCheng]

All jobless adult males to be sent to labor camps for national projects or military service---and at the start of every work day---they need to state the pledge of allegiance

Right now, all these jobless futureless adults throng to madrassas for their radicalizing indoctrination. Who is going to interrupt that process?

 

[Jf Thunder]

Remember the time we had to all stand up and sing along with the national anthem, even in movie theaters? This new proposed pledge will end in the same result - ineffectual and ridiculed.

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Does this seem familiar?

Blessed be the sacred Land
Happy be the bounteous realm
Symbol of high resolve
Land of Pakistan
Blessed be thou citadel of faith

The order of this sacred land
Is the might of the brotherhood of the People
May the nation, the country, and the state
Shine in glory everlasting
Blessed be the goal of our ambition

This Flag of the Crescent and Star
Leads the way to progress and perfection

Interpreter of our past, glory of our present
Inspiration of our future
Symbol of the Almighty's protection

you, Sir are strange

 

[livewire]

what effect this pledge will have on the ruling elite, bureaucracy, generals and politicians? they are ones running the country and they are the ones whose pledges should matter! this pledge would not end the designs of hostile agencies neither corrupt people will turn honest! indoctrination occurs at young ages and that is when the pledges should happen (and they do happen) in letter and spirit! All we do our lives is earn money for our children and save to make a house for them and thats obviously not a nationalist approach!

 

[Adecypher]

what effect this pledge will have on the ruling elite, bureaucracy, generals and politicians? they are ones running the country and they are the ones whose pledges should matter! this pledge would not end the designs of hostile agencies neither corrupt people will turn honest! indoctrination occurs at young ages and that is when the pledges should happen (and they do happen) in letter and spirit! All we do our lives is earn money for our children and save to make a house for them and thats obviously not a nationalist approach!

Bitter it sounds...but this is reality unfortunately.

 

[MastanKhan]

Right now, all these jobless futureless adults throng to madrassas for their radicalizing indoctrination. Who is going to interrupt that process?

Hi,

The state---the state can do a lot----. It needs a game plan----it needs a slogan---slogans get people riled and gets them moving----.

Anything that can give hope to the people----about---who????

you, Sir are strange

Hi,

Syed Ali is not strange----but an asset. When everyone says yes yes and yes----you need someone to say something different---because life is not all black and white----.

You have to ask him about his perspective----what makes him see something different than what you see---.

 

[livingdead]

what effect this pledge will have on the ruling elite, bureaucracy, generals and politicians? they are ones running the country and they are the ones whose pledges should matter! this pledge would not end the designs of hostile agencies neither corrupt people will turn honest! indoctrination occurs at young ages and that is when the pledges should happen (and they do happen) in letter and spirit! All we do our lives is earn money for our children and save to make a house for them and thats obviously not a nationalist approach!

why does everybody blames politicians for everything.. I mean the society is corrupt...
I am more frustrated at lower level corruption.. like peon asking a fee to let me in, clerk asking money to move file, postman asking diwali baksish... etc.

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

The state---the state can do a lot----. It needs a game plan----it needs a slogan---slogans get people riled and gets them moving----.

Anything that can give hope to the people----about---who????

Therein lies the problem, Sir. The same State that has abdicated its roles and duties to just about everything and everybody, will take much more than a pithy slogan or a stirring pledge to start shouldering its responsibilities seriously again. The nation itself is not much better either. What happened after the much touted "tabdeeli" slogans? All it left was piles of human shit on the Supreme Court's lawn.

 

[Adecypher]

Therein lies the problem, Sir. The same State that has abdicated its roles and duties to just about everything and everybody, will take much more than a pithy slogan or a stirring pledge to start shouldering its responsibilities seriously again. The nation itself is not much better either. What happened after the much touted "tabdeeli" slogans? All it left was piles of human shit on the Supreme Court's lawn.

Agreed and the mindset of the people from top to bottom needs to be re-vamped and these kind of changes require more than a Pledge, it requires a constant relentlessness meticulously crafted struggle with a plan and realistic achievable targets run by honest selfless patriots. The requirement is to come out of your comfort zones and take practical steps...