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I, The Pakistani Pledge Allegiance:----

I am in favor of The Pledge of Allegiance

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 82.2%
  • No

    Votes: 8 17.8%

  • Total voters
    45
Remember the time we had to all stand up and sing along with the national anthem, even in movie theaters? This new proposed pledge will end in the same result - ineffectual and ridiculed.

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Does this seem familiar?

Blessed be the sacred Land
Happy be the bounteous realm
Symbol of high resolve
Land of Pakistan
Blessed be thou citadel of faith

The order of this sacred land
Is the might of the brotherhood of the People
May the nation, the country, and the state
Shine in glory everlasting
Blessed be the goal of our ambition

This Flag of the Crescent and Star
Leads the way to progress and perfection

Interpreter of our past, glory of our present
Inspiration of our future
Symbol of the Almighty's protection


Hi,

The national anthem---It is too long---it is not a pledge of allegiance----it is full of metaphors---unreal metaphors---unrealistic visualization---it is missing the crispness---it does not have the sharp edge to cut thru---it is not blunt enough to smash thru---it is asking for blessings and the pledge of allegiance gives no blessings---it has wishful thinking and the pledge of allegiance demands your total loyalty----where it talks about symbolism---the pledge hammers in your obligation---where it glorifies the purity of the land, the nature and the beauty that surrounds it----the pledge just smashes thru those ideological dreams---whereas it creates a love of the land---the pledge forces you into a moral obligation of servitude to the land----.

They are not the same------.

Welcome back---it is good to see you---.
 
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Hi,

Neither is pledge of allegiance a namaz, nor it is a national anthem.

Any public servant, or any employee of any business run in Pakistan must adhere to the pledge---any person not taking the pledge would be warned and sent to a training center and if still not willing will be terminated from employment.

The pledge of allegiance must be made a part and parcel of everyday living of the citizens of Pakistan.

There must be ramifications and consideration against those who do not take the pledge.

You cannot force 'namaaz' on anyone---you cannot force religion on anyone----but you can force the PLEDGE.

Force the pledge---force it with consequences---consequences make people do wonderful things----.

Namaaz is a submission----national anthem is about the nation and who we are as a nation---and both these have nothing in common with the pledge of allegiance----.

It is the promise---it is the commitment----it is the obligation.

If only it were that easy. That is something North Korea would do, and fail just as spectacularly.

Who is going to be enforcing this pledge? NAB? Police? Army? Petty bureaucracy? The friendly neighborhood Moulvi? And how would this enforcement be judged?

Sorry, try as I might, I can see only failure with such indoctrination. 100% fail.

Hi,

It is too long---it is not a pledge of allegiance----it is full of metaphors---unreal metaphors---unrealistic visualization---it is missing the crispness---it does not have the sharp edged to cut thru---it is not blunt enough to smash thru---it is asking for blessings and the pledge of allegiance gives no blessings---it has wishful thinking and the pledge of allegiance demands your total loyalty----where it talks about symbolism---the pledge hammers in your obligation---where it glorifies the purity of the land, the nature and the beauty that surrounds it----the pledge just smashes thru those ideological dreams---whereas it creates a love of the land---the pledge forces you into a moral obligation of servitude to the land----.

They are not the same------.

Welcome back---it is good to see you---.

So a nation for which its own anthem has "lost its crispness" is suddenly going to respond to a pledge of allegiance taken from the Great Satan? :D

Welcome back---it is good to see you---.

Thank you. It's good to be back. :)
 
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heard they use to beat who didnt offer his prayers same goes for KSA now no idea :D btw mastan khan should be beaten for the fun :D same goes for uncle modi and uncle altaf =))
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Youre talking about those Muttawa those bearded religious police, @Imran Khan bhai would know more :partay:
 
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Hi,

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the Pakistan, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Taken from the pledge of allegiance of the united states of America.

I read through it and I was like, wait, its the American pledge of alliance to the Star Spangled Banner :usflag::usflag::usflag::usflag:

Then I saw you refer to it at the end.

Interesting how you converted it over to the Pakistani side. A pledge by a country's citizen's is a conscious reminder day in and day out, and it reminds you of where your priorities lie and the country and its principles you stand for and represent.
 
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I read through it and I was like, wait, its the American pledge of alliance to the Star Spangled Banner :usflag::usflag::usflag::usflag:

Then I saw you refer to it at the end.

Interesting how you converted it over to the Pakistani side. A pledge by a country's citizen's is a conscious reminder day in and day out, and it reminds you of where your priorities lie and the country and its principles you stand for and represent.


Hi,

You know what grafting is----like in mangoes----you have a low grade tree and you want to make something better out of it---so you graft it with the branch of a better fruiting tree.

That is what my thinking is behind this pledge of allegiance----. Our military loves everything American---Pakistanis loe to come to the U S---our country is ruled from the 'white house'---so then why not take something that works for them----maybe use it as a graft and something good might come out of it.
 
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Not to be meddling or trolling, but please change the heading and remove ":----" thingy out... looks like, you know...
 
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Nationalism is as dangerous as religious fanaticism. And somebody already pointed out, pakistan is not north korea nor should she attempt to be.
 
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I agree Pakistan requires a national pledge if allegiance. The national anthem is in Farsi, we don't speak it nor understand it. The translation is taught but the original impact always gets lost in translation.

We need, no we require, a national pledge allegiance but it MUST be in the national language, Urdu. Cannot be in English, Arabic or Persian. The words coming from the tongue that speaks and understand the national language and straight to the heart and mind for a full emotional and intellectual impact. That is the national pledge we require.
 
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The first person to give this idea publicly will be mutilated and butchered by the bearded nutjobs of our society.
 
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Nationalism is as dangerous as religious fanaticism. And somebody already pointed out, pakistan is not north korea nor should she attempt to be.
Nice, coming from someone who's people and leaders are always doused in nationalism to the point of fanaticism.
 
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This is Indian national pledge which is recited in every school across entire India everyday in morning assembly(vernacular language schools do this in their language)
India is my country and all Indians are my brothers and
sisters.
I love my country and I am proud of its rich and varied
heritage.
I shall always strive to be worthy of it.
I shall give respect to my parents, teachers and all
elders and treat everyone with courtesy.
To my country and my people, I pledge my devotion. In
their well-being and prosperity alone lies my happiness.
 
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This is cheesy and overkill. Just make sure to pay your taxes and not become a zombie suicide bomber that would be enough.
 
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