I, The Pakistani Pledge Allegiance:----

[VCheng]

Agreed and the mindset of the people from top to bottom needs to be re-vamped and these kind of changes require more than a Pledge, it requires a constant relentlessness meticulously crafted struggle with a plan and realistic achievable targets run by honest selfless patriots. The requirement is to come out of your comfort zones and take practical steps...

Honest selfless patriots? You ask for too much!

(You might get any two points out of the three, in any combination, but not all three.)

 

[Adecypher]

Honest selfless patriots? You ask for too much!

Not too much I say...there are a lot of them working in silos...PDF is an example, I find really intelligent motivated patriotic folks here......just wish someone get the courage to unite them all on a single platform with a single GOAL...

 

[rockstar08]

HERE COMES THE ALLEGIANCE FROM SHEEDA PRESIDENT ..
AUR BOLO AP @MastanKhan

 

[MastanKhan]

why does everybody blames politicians for everything.. I mean the society is corrupt...
I am more frustrated at lower level corruption.. like peon asking a fee to let me in, clerk asking money to move file, postman asking diwali baksish... etc.

Hi,

Because the politicians have the power to stop corruption. Good comes from top down----honesty comes from top down---character comes from top down----.

If the middle class and poor people do not see these qualities at the top---slowly they become a part and parcel of corruption as well---.

Agreed and the mindset of the people from top to bottom needs to be re-vamped and these kind of changes require more than a Pledge, it requires a constant relentlessness meticulously crafted struggle with a plan and realistic achievable targets run by honest selfless patriots. The requirement is to come out of your comfort zones and take practical steps...

Hi,

You have to start from somewhere---and in order for you to start---you need to have a slogan---direction and then you need to have a pledge----. The pledge and slogan can work hand in hand---but then you need to have the courage to take to the maximum----.

Like Imran Khan----he had a good plan---but did not have the ballz to take it to the limit----.

To be run by selfless patriots----you need a pledge----which supercedes the party idols---that you don't God worship Zulfiqat li Bhutto----or Benazir is not God worshipped or any other party leader----.

 

[VCheng]

You have to start from somewhere---and in order for you to start---you need to have a slogan---direction and then you need to have a pledge----. The pledge and slogan can work hand in hand---but then you need to have the courage to take to the maximum----.

Does anybody recall what motto the Quaid left his nation with? What did we do with "Unity, Faith, Discipline"?

 

[MastanKhan]

Does anybody recall what motto the Quaid left his nation with? What did we do with "Unity, Faith, Discipline"?

Hi,

That motto needed to be understood thru the eyes of Jinnah---. The words uttered were matching to Jinnah's personality because he already had the key ingredient ( discipline )---but not for an average person---.

It should have been---Discipline----faith---unity----. Which comes out to---If you have Discipline or if you inject discipline---then you will develop Faith in each other----and once you have Faith in each other---that will lead to Unity----.

The aspects pf Faith and Unity are interchangeable----but they are always being led by Discipline.

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto lost discipline and so did the nation----. Public loved Bhutto----and people followed him like crazy---and instead of flying upto a higher pleateau----he chose to dive into the dumpster-----chaos and anarchy----and so did the people.

If he would have chosen to have higher idols of Discipline---Faith---Unity---the nation would have followed him in that direction----.

 

[VCheng]

he chose to dive into the dumpster-----chaos and anarchy----and so did the people.

And now you propose that the same nation can climb out of the said dumpster with just a pledge, no matter how nobly worded? I think not!

 

[MastanKhan]

And now you propose that the same nation can climb out of the said dumpster with just a pledge, no matter how nobly worded? I think not!

Hi,

Everybody has to start from somewhere----once it starts---it will turn into a revolution---then executions like all the families of Nawaz and Shahbaz and Zardaris---men women children and their cohorts---every single one f them---properties confiscated----.

See---what starts with a slogan and a promise---has to end in the blood of the corrupt and their whole families----.

 

[VCheng]

See---what starts with a slogan and a promise---has to end in the blood of the corrupt and their whole families----.

And that is exactly why the corrupt at all levels, high and low, will do their utmost to see that such a slogan and promise never sees the light of day. Guaranteed.

 

[MastanKhan]

And that is exactly why the corrupt at all levels, high and low, will do their utmost to see that such a slogan and promise never sees the light of day. Guaranteed.

Ain't that the truth.

 

[Adecypher]

You have to start from somewhere---and in order for you to start---you need to have a slogan---direction and then you need to have a pledge----. The pledge and slogan can work hand in hand---but then you need to have the courage to take to the maximum----.

Agreed you have to start from somewhere, let suppose the slogan and pledge is adopted what is the next "practical" step? Zero times zero is always zero...you probably have watched countless speeches of the politicians / leaders they give lot of promises but did they ever delivered...and do you really believe their existing voters will wake up suddenly from a deep sleep to realize they were betrayed...not happening anytime sooner. Do you see anyone on the horizon to unite the masses I don't...I see same old faces and same old khokley promises...do you really believe that in the current system any "honest man/woman" can survive if he/she wants to stand against the corrupt thugs who have enslaved the Country...its easier said than done.

 

[Salik]

At the moment we can't target any particular person or group. Current politicians in govt. have to start this initiative. It will take time to mature and become part of the nation and show some fruits.

If we want and wait right person for this job, what were the need of this idea.

 

[MastanKhan]

At the moment we can't target any particular person or group. Current politicians in govt. have to start this initiative. It will take time to mature and become part of the nation and show some fruits.

If we want and wait right person for this job, what were the need of this idea.

Hi,

At the moment we can start a revolution---and start executing all the Judges of the supreme court and high court---members of the parliament and their families.

The stage that Pakistan is I---it needs to be cleansed thru blood---thru the blood of the criminal Judges---politicians---govt servants who stole money from the public---.

A pledge is just the beginning---

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

At the moment we can start a revolution---and start executing all the Judges of the supreme court and high court---members of the parliament and their families.

The stage that Pakistan is I---it needs to be cleansed thru blood---thru the blood of the criminal Judges---politicians---govt servants who stole money from the public---.

A pledge is just the beginning---

Sir, are you proposing anarchy and murder?

 

[Hyperion]

Wholeheartedly agree.......HOW EVVVAAAAAA... just add Naswar at the end, else you may lose a province!