I need a little help here on Pak army

[Thorough Pro]

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It happens no prob

 

[The Sandman]

https://defence.pk/threads/pakistan-army-information.21550/page-41

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Thank you so much
edit you've any info about how many divisions we had in 1950 or close to that year?
@Sarge

 

[Signalian]

The basic composition can differ at times.

12 infantry div has 6 or 7 brigades
Either 14 or 40th div has 4 brigades.

 

[Ali Sinan]

What if i tell you i am a double agent?
OT no professional has responded yet

What professional real or PDF pro?

 

[Signalian]

Thank you so much
edit you've any info about how many divisions we had in 1950 or close to that year?
@Sarge

End of 40's and start of 50's

7th Infantry Div - rawalpindi
8th Infantry Div -Karachi and brigade in quetta
9th Infantry Div - Peshawar
10th Infantry Div- Lahore
14th Infantry Div - Dhaka

1st Armoured Division was formed in 1956 through 3rd armoured brigade in Risalpur along with other raised armour regiments (equipment from USA). Two more brigades (4th and 5th Armoured Brigades) joined it to complete divisional strength.

6th Armoured Division was formed through 100th Independent Brigade group in 1965, although brigade group existed in 50's. The armour regiments in 50's had 75 tanks each which were downsized to 44 tanks each. This helped raising 4 more armoured regiments in 1962, so 6th armoured was raised easily after 1965 war.

 

[The Sandman]

End of 40's and start of 50's

7th Infantry Div - rawalpindi
8th Infantry Div -Karachi and brigade in quetta
9th Infantry Div - Peshawar
10th Infantry Div- Lahore
14th Infantry Div - Dhaka

1st Armoured Division was formed in 1956 through 3rd armoured brigade in Risalpur along with other raised armour regiments (equipment from USA). Two more brigades (4th and 5th Armoured Brigades) joined it to complete divisional strength.

6th Armoured Division was formed through 100th Independent Brigade group in 1965, although brigade group existed in 50's. The armour regiments in 50's had 75 tanks each which were downsized to 44 tanks each. This helped raising 4 more armoured regiments in 1962, so 6th armoured was raised easily after 1965 war.

Thank you for this info brother

 

[Signalian]

Thank you for this info brother

No problem, just tag me and i will help you to the best of my ability

 

[The Sandman]

You forgot Gunner (I think he is @Icarus now).

I am keenly interested to read the responses. Does anybody know in detail what changes the Americans brought in? Did they persuade the PA to go Pentomic? Were they behind the huge build-up of artillery?

Since you're here i would like to know the same info but on Indian Army means how many divs they had between 1947-1950's their composition etc kindly tag others
@Nilgiri

No problem, just tag me and i will help you to the best of my ability

Can you tell me about our Artillery i mean did we produced it or bought it? and if we produced it than who did?

 

[Nilgiri]

Since you're here i would like to know the same info but on Indian Army means how many divs they had between 1947-1950's their composition etc kindly tag others
@Nilgiri

Can you tell me about our Artillery i mean did we produced it or bought it?

I know that 2/3rds of the total divisions went to India and 1/3rd to Pakistan at partition. As for the exact numbers this involved and composition, you better refer to @Joe Shearer @jbgt90 and @PARIKRAMA .

I have a book somewhere with it....but I think its at my folks place in Singapore

 

[Signalian]

Can you tell me about our Artillery i mean did we produced it or bought it?

No production till now. At start PA inherited a few. Then USA gave some in aid. Later China gave in aid. Buying came later.

PA started with WWII era 25-pounders which is 88mm caliber and mortar batteries. Later the mortar batteries discontinued.
There were also 3.7 inch howitzers.
Then early on received M-114 and M-59 from USA. They are 155mm and towed. Same era howitzers includes M-101 which is 105mm. Not sure which year they were received.
For Armoured Division, M-7 priest which is 105mm SP Gun was provided by USA.

The Chinese ones came later.

 

[Nilgiri]

No production till now. At start PA inherited a few. Then USA gave some in aid. Later China gave in aid. Buying came later.

PA started with WWII era 25-pounders which is 88mm caliber and mortar batteries. Later the mortar batteries discontinued.
There were also 3.7 inch howitzers.
Then early on received M-114 and M-59 from USA. They are 155mm and towed. Same era howitzers includes M-101 which is 105mm. Not sure which year they were received.
For Armoured Division, M-7 priest which is 105mm SP Gun was provided by USA.

The Chinese ones came later.

Sir are you a pak military background by any chance? You seem to know a lot on the subject.

 

[The Sandman]

I know that 2/3rds of the total divisions went to India and 1/3rd to Pakistan at partition. As for the exact numbers this involved and composition, you better refer to @Joe Shearer @jbgt90 and @PARIKRAMA .

I have a book somewhere with it....but I think its at my folks place in Singapore

Yes forgot to tag parikrama thanks for that
oh well

No production till now. At start PA inherited a few. Then USA gave some in aid. Later China gave in aid. Buying came later.

PA started with WWII era 25-pounders which is 88mm caliber and mortar batteries. Later the mortar batteries discontinued.
There were also 3.7 inch howitzers.
Then early on received M-114 and M-59 from USA. They are 155mm and towed. Same era howitzers includes M-101 which is 105mm. Not sure which year they were received.
For Armoured Division, M-7 priest which is 105mm SP Gun was provided by USA.

The Chinese ones came later.

ok thank you i hope you won't mind if i disturb you again and yes you really have a lot of knowledge on PA good to have people like you on PDF didn't we got shermans too?

 

[Nilgiri]

oh well

Trust me I will dig out the info if the others are unable to provide this info (but I find that very unlikely). Rest assured you will have an answer

 

[Signalian]

Sir are you a pak military background by any chance? You seem to know a lot on the subject.

Yes sir, i studied in a military institution relevant to Army Signal Corps but didnt join army hence im a civilian

 

[The Sandman]

What professional real or PDF pro?

You're new but there are many ex-Army men here.

Trust me I will dig out the info if the others are unable to provide this info (but I find that very unlikely). Rest assured you will have an answer

Yes that i know PDF can be really helpful for research like these thanks to so many knowledgeable people we've here.