I have a Question: to which western country we can compare Turkey in science and technology?.

[Attila the Hun]

When comparing with South Korea people must remember that Korea first built an impressive horizontal civilian industry ,with the likes of Samsung,Daewoo,etc,which spurred it's military advances. Turkey does not possess such industry.

Not going to read the whole thread, but seriously doubt any sane Turk not on a wind-up would compare us with S.Korea.

 

[Dash]

China, they are no less than Chinese.

 

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Not going to read the whole thread, but seriously doubt any sane Turk not on a wind-up would compare us with S.Korea.

Turkey is set to surpass S.Korea.

 

[Baybars Han]

Turkey is set to surpass S.Korea.

Lol don't make me laugh. One thing being patriotic but you gotta be realistic. Day and night we argue on TV over and stupid internal politics and you expect us to pass south Korea. Do you know samsung is going to surpass Intel in chip manufacturing and they also design their own chips. South Korea is one of the most advanced countries in the world, in top 10 easily and top 3 in some sectors.

 

[-SINAN-]

What Turkey labels as indigenous programs are more often than not still heavily linked to foreign partnerships and almost invariably include imported subsystems. So while the continued rise of the Turkish defense industry is impressive at face value, the reality is that progress will remain uneven, and Ankara will not be able to forgo its dependence on critical foreign systems anytime soon.

Ah, good old stratfor....

For many times, SSM officials have stated that we don't have enough resources to both build the platform and produce every critical sub-system at the same time.

For that reason, SSM adopted a strategy that first building the platform, using needed foreign sub-systems and in time producing sub-systems at home. There are also, a great number of sub-systems projects on going, from APS to Tanks engines, from Helicopter engines to serial production of GaN technology.

Also, let's not forget to mention 10-15 years ago we were almost buying everything off the shelf. Now we are producing most of the stuff by ToT. 10-15 years later, if the current projects goes as planned you will be looking at a Turkish defense industry that is almost producing everything indigenously.

Lol don't make me laugh. One thing being patriotic but you gotta be realistic. Day and night we argue on TV over and stupid internal politics and you expect us to pass south Korea. Do you know samsung is going to surpass Intel in chip manufacturing and they also design their own chips. South Korea is one of the most advanced countries in the world, in top 10 easily and top 3 in some sectors.

He means in defense industry, i think.

 

[blondeturkish]

China, they are no less than Chinese.

is that an insult? by the way it says western.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Turkey is set to surpass S.Korea.

We're a decade or more behind Korea.
That's a disgrace.

 

[xenon54 out]

When comparing with South Korea people must remember that Korea first built an impressive horizontal civilian industry ,with the likes of Samsung,Daewoo,etc,which spurred it's military advances. Turkey does not possess such industry.

Even if Turkey isnt there yet the statement that Turkey doesnt posess such industry isnt true at all, there are multi billion dollar holdings with numerous subsidary companies exporting products to across the globe.

Koç Holding A.Ş.

• Otokar
  
• Arçelik A.Ş.
  
• Beko
  
• Grundig

Sabancı Holding

• TEMSA

Zorlu Holding

• Vestel (with the biggest single factory compley in Europe)

Those are just the biggest, there are also hundreds of side branches of automotive industry and parts manufacturer so the industry is there just not at South Korean level.

 

[cabatli_53]

When comparing with South Korea people must remember that Korea first built an impressive horizontal civilian industry ,with the likes of Samsung,Daewoo,etc,which spurred it's military advances. Turkey does not possess such industry.

Turkish civilian industry is also doing nice things in many different sectors but having difficulty to reveal a well-known World mark in global market.

Contrary to S. Korean example,

The Turkish strategic/vital components of civilian industry is being developed by Turkish defence institutes on electronics/electro-optic/screen/integrated circuit technologies. LED/OLED/Graphen screen cells, Lenses/optics, Transistors, photo-detectors, silicon based IC, GaN technologies have a wide range of usage area in civilian sector. 5G net technology is being developed by our giant Aselsan. Civilian satellite transponders, fully electrical busses/vehicles, national railway technologies such as Traction Control System, Train Control and Management Systems and Signalization Systems which have critical components in the field of Rail Transportation Technologies, are also same story.

Turkish defense land vehicle sector is being supported by Civilian automotive sub-system producers mostly locating in Marmara region.

Turkish naval industry is also being supported by many companies producing ship body mechanisms and components which are actually working for shipyards producing merchant ships.

Turkish aerial industry is advancing very fast. To support ongoing and future projects under the leadership of Tusaş, A big and large industrial complex, hundreds of institutes to be produced solely aerospace parts and components, are being established to serve the future of Turkiye in Kazan region/Ankara.

Those are civilian automotive subsystem producers supporting famous Turkish land vehicles manufacturers.

 

[blondeturkish]

Even if Turkey isnt there yet the statement that Turkey doesnt posess such industry isnt true at all, there are multi billion dollar holdings with numerous subsidary companies exporting products to across the globe.

Koç Holding A.Ş.

• Otokar
  
• Arçelik A.Ş.
  
• Beko
  
• Grundig

Sabancı Holding

• TEMSA

Zorlu Holding

• Vestel (with the biggest single factory compley in Europe)

Those are just the biggest, there are also hundreds of side branches of automotive industry and parts manufacturer so the industry is there just not at South Korean level.

that guy is not here to learn.

 

[Hexciter]

In Turkey, India is called 'Hindistan'? Thats a new thing for me

And we call an Indian as "Hintli" and when pointing religion as "Hindu".

 

[asena_great]

Id say if Turkey has a good electronics design and manufacturing at home or it can manipulate what it buys then turkey can catch up with South Korea in a decade from now since electronics are the backbone for any industry weather civil or military.

this is one of the electronic car's battery 100% build by anadolu university students and those metals around are our demo which is a drive able vehicle every piece of metal you see here is cut and shape in workshop in our university by us . even the software to check on the battery is written by computer engineering students (each of those cube you see there , is a 6 parallel circuit in 6 series circuit and we need to know what voltage cross those circuits and show how much hot they are how much electricity battery's fan and car's engine using and how much electricity is charging via solar panel . if something wrong in one of them it will screw whole battery ) i dont have pic of other battery right now but if i show them to u , u will see how different they are from one another there is alot of way to make battery . each time we make new car we also make new battery with different method to improve our battery (we read then we theorized the new ways then we make the battery and we hop it will be better then the last one )

KSA has granted more patents than Turkey since 2010. Possibly the effect of the Western-style research cities and universities KSA established a decade ago.

saudi arabia's universities never ever become top 5 in solar challenge's car race while anadolu university become 2nd in world in the solar challenge in south Africa's race

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[BordoEnes]

Turkey is set to surpass S.Korea.

You forgat to put /s behind your comment.

Netherland

Never.

 

[Saithan]

I feel the arguments have deviated a bit, now ppl are using whatever they can get their fingers on to promote their POV.

I don't see anyone questioning the capability of Turkey, but rather focus on a specific area that is related to defense industry. And in those areas we're behind.

What's going on in this thread is similar to not answering a question straight, but trying to argue through other means that you're right.

Altay, Firtina and a bunch of other things are possible thanks to S.Koreas help. But without an engine those things would not be able to move. Who provides that engine ?

 

[LordTyrannus]

Many people do not realize that the level of civilization of a country does not depend on science but on money and financial recources.

Science and technology only depends on the level of secularity of a country.

In britain the industrial revolution would have been imposible without rothshild debt funding.

And rothshild debt bonds are a huge scam by the way. Todays people suck the future of their own children. They eat the flesh of their own children practically.

Besides this global policy is based upon law of the jungle. No country will develope without an own identity.

China, japan, south korea developed because their identity is hard working labor force.

Germany, france, italy, brittain, netherlands, spain developed because their identity is colonialism.

USA developed because of imperialism.

Russia developed because of supremacy against eastern folks. Without suppressing them we would not survive