I am Urdu

[Butchcassidy]

you didn't mention a modern south indian actress so i don't understand your reference.

Rambha? Ramya?

 

[livingdead]

you didn't mention a modern south indian actress so i don't understand your reference.

shakeela?

 

[jamahir]

Rambha? Ramya?

they had their voices dubbed, i think... but i suppose you mean a thick accent if i have... no, i don't... i speak fluidly.

 

[Butchcassidy]

they had their voices dubbed, i think... but i suppose you mean a thick accent if i have... no, i don't... i speak fluidly.

for not knowing waheeda rehman

 

[syedali73]

I know everyone love his/her mother tongue, and i am no way undermining Urdu as it's my national language. But you can't compare a language which is merely few centuries old with language which is there since time immemorial.

Urdu has borrowed has borrowed everything from other languages i.e. grammar from Hindi, vocabulary from Hindi, Punjabi, Persian etc.

Borrowing is the characteristic of living languages. Every language borrows from others and those that refuse to borrow go extinct with time or only found in the books. Read the English of Shakespearian era and compare it with English spoken or written today. Latin is pretty much read and spoken by Vatican clergymen otherwise it is all but gone. Comparing languages and proving one better than other is pretty futile and distasteful exercise.

 

[jamahir]

for not knowing waheeda rehman

of course i know waheeda rehman... i have heard her interview on "rajya sabha tv"... just that i don't remember if her accent is thick or old-style urdu.

 

[Butchcassidy]

of course i know waheeda rahman... i have heard her interview on "rajya sabha tv"... just that i don't remember if her accent is thick or old-style urdu.

Old style, i think she was from your city

 

[jamahir]

Old style, i think she was from your city

she is from hyderabad, yes?? same as tabu.

which do you think is my city??

 

[Butchcassidy]

she is from hyderabad, yes?? same as tabu.

which do you think is my city??

I think she was from bangalore
No, from Chengalpattu
News to me

 

[jamahir]

I think she was from bangalore
No, from Chengalpattu
News to me

this is from her wiki...

Waheeda Rehman was born into a Muslim family in Chengalpattu, Madras Province (now Tamil Nadu), British India.[8] She and her sister learnt Bharatnatyam in Chennai, where Guru Trichunder Meenakshi Sundaram Pillai and in Bombay Guru Jayalaxmi Alva, doyen among nattuvanars taught[9] and performed on stage together. Her father, who was a district commissioner, died while she was in her teens.[10][11]

It is a common misconception that Rehman was born in Hyderabad.[8] "It's a long story," she says, "When I was in Chennai, I did four Telugu and two Tamil movies. In the first one, Kaalam Maari Pochu (tamil) along with Gemini Ganesan a bilingual film which was made in Telugu and Tamil as Rojulu Maraayi, I did only a folk dance number in both Telugu and Tamil versions. However, it went on to become a hit! I was in Hyderabad celebrating its success and Guru Dutt happened to be there. He was on a lookout for new faces and heard that I could speak in Urdu. It is because he spotted me in Hyderabad that people assume I was born there."[8]

so neither from hyderabad nor from bangalore.

 

[Butchcassidy]

this is from her wiki...


so neither from hyderabad nor from bangalore.

Yeh to googly ho gayi

 

[jamahir]

@Butchcassidy

now sleep i must...

 

[Butchcassidy]

@Butchcassidy

now sleep i must...

good night comrade

 

[scionoftheindus]

Urdu is sweet and rich language but there is no comparison between Urdu and lone surviving Indo-Euorpean tonal language which is Punjabi (with all it's dialects / variants)

This whole argument about language identity and one language is better than others is ridiculous. Is the Punjabi that is being spoken now the same that was spoken say 400 years ago?Was there any language called Urdu some 500 years ago?Language just like everything else in this universe evolves;there is no need for the author of the above article to feel so pained.Would Urdu have come into existence in the first place had the speakers of khari boli resisted the entry of Persian ,Turkic and Arabic words into their language? People will never stop trying to dominate others in the name of race,region,religion,language etc.Even people who speak the same language mock others in the name of accent or dialect.In this day and age of internet and technology where the world has become so small ,I would strongly endorse replacing all the languages with english.Children these days are neither good at their native tongues nor English which is largely due to teachers who themselves are hardly any good at languages.The governments across the globe should take promoting English seriously so that coming generations can be fluent in at least one language.fight to preserve our language identity can be done only when a language group tries to impose their language in an attempt to subdue another language people ;ex: telanagana people revolting against nizams or Bengali's against Pakistanis.In the case of English nobody is forcing anyone(forget about colonial times;let's talk only of present).The thing with any struggle for identity is when a group willingly or unwillingly takes up other identity, that group will fight to preserve that newly taken up identity with as much determination. Dravidian speaking Indians might have despised old Sanskrit when aryans tried to dominate them and impose their langauage.Now all the north Indians talk languages which are off shoots of that very Sanskrit and even south Indians revere Sanskrit as the language of gods;same is the case in Egypt where Arabic has replaced their ancient language. Moral of the story is don't get into this senseless argument about languages;talk to your kids only in English and make them proficient in at least one language because language development and mind development are inter related.

 

[Kolachi Punjabi]

I watched native average urdu speaker speaking urdu on tv, honestly I think other pakis speak better urdu with proper accent. Like Imran Khan for exemple speak with perfect urdu accent.

TV isn't very representative, you have to come to Karachi to be able to form an opinion

Imran Khan does speak very fluent Urdu, given that he is from the upper crust of Lahori society, of course he will sound more sophisticated than some poor or middle class Urdu speaker from the north parts of Karachi, you got to compare him to an upper class Urdu speaker from the south like DHA and Clifton who is of similar financial background as Imran Khan.

That being said, Imran Khan still lacks some fluidity in his speaking style, his excessive use of the word 'oye' and mispronouciation of some words would lower his ranking on 'best Urdu accent' index, the best Punjabis with Urdu accent are Hamza Ali Abassi and Shaan Shahid IMO, Shah Mehmood Qureshi has the best Urdu accent among politicians from Punjab.