Huawei remains far behind its competitors: Kirin 710A not competitive in the test

[F-22Raptor]

China’s 28nm DUV lithography will be delivered next year. It can make up to 7nm chips.

China has already developed the mirrors for the EUV lithography machine. The light source (LPP or DPP) is the final piece of the puzzle for the EUV lithography. Great progress is being made in developing the light source.

The de-Americanisation of the semiconductor chain is going far better than most people predicted and expected. China has been preparing for this for a long time.

It’s all talk at this point. As I’ve said before, I look at facts on the ground and China is importing more than $300B worth of semiconductors in 2020. China’s reliance is bigger than ever.

Even China’s other smartphone companies were drooling over the Snapdragon 888 yesterday. Xiaomis CEO practically wet himself.

 

[antonius123]

It’s all talk at this point. As I’ve said before, I look at facts on the ground and China is importing more than $300B worth of semiconductors in 2020. China’s reliance is bigger than ever.

Even China’s other smartphone companies were drooling over the Snapdragon 888 yesterday. Xiaomis CEO practically wet himself.

I've told you, $300B of 2020 could not be bigger than $301B of 2021, how is your math?

 

[F-22Raptor]

Fake news.
Kirin 990 out performed Apple in every aspect.
Apple, No innovation for damn 10 years.

Apples M1 Macs are also a huge leap in silicon tech.

 

[sinait]

With its first Chinese-manufactured SoC, Huawei did not prove to be competitive - at least not in the price range targeted by the Chinese manufacturer. Even the 230 Euros (~$275) recommended retail price for the P Smart 2021 are much too high for what you get. The potential of the chipset corresponds more to the current entry-level smartphones, and this dilemma may not change in the foreseeable future...

With its midrange P Smart 2021 model, Huawei uses a processor that is manufactured by its Chinese partner SMIC for the first time. The HiSilicon Kirin 710A is an octa-core SoC that is based on the Kirin 710 but was manufactured in the 14nm-FinFET process. The chipset integrates four Cortex A73 processor cores (2 GHz) and four Cortex A53 cores in the big.LITTLE architecture that have a clock speed of up to 1.7 GHz. The integrated graphics card is a Mali-G51 MP4, which has a weak performance.

But the CPU is not particularly powerful either. In our extensive test of the P Smart 2021, the chipset of the Huawei smartphone limps far behind the Snapdragon competitors. Even a Huawei P smart Pro with the Kirin 710, which already showed some deficits in the performance capabilities, places for the most part ahead of the P Smart 2021. The graphics tests such as the GFXBench benchmarks show a similar picture, only with the performance differences to an Adreno 618 of the Snapdragon 720 and Snapdragon 730 Qualcomm midrange being even more pronounced.

Even a Mediatek Helio G80 that is used in low-budget smartphones such as the Redmi 9A we recently tested, places ahead of the Kirin 710A in our performance rating.

If you want to get a more detailed impression of the P Smart 2021 despite its performance deficits, we recommend our extensive review of the Huawei smartphone.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawe...10A-not-competitive-in-the-test.506653.0.html

Never imagined that the day the US had to be constantly COMPARED with DEVELOPING NATION, China, would come so soon and in my life time, haha.
Fantastic Job, China.

Just wondering.
What have Irwin Jacobs of Qualcomm have to do with a Indian Squatter in the US.
Or are you the Chief Engineer at Qualcomm?
What are your contributions to the technology of Silicone Valley?
Your JOB is to BRAG FOR THE US?

Many of the researchers and engineers of significance in the US are Chinese.
And they are going back to China.

Chinese researchers quit US, agents target Biden team: US officials

WASHINGTON: More than 1,000 Chinese researchers have left the United States amid a US crackdown on alleged technology theft, top US security officials said on Wednesday (Dec 2), adding that Chinese agents had already been targeting the incoming Biden administration.China dismissed the...

www.channelnewsasia.com

"
WASHINGTON: More than 1,000 Chinese researchers have left the United States"

Without the Chinese in the US, NO Boeing Aircrafts, NO Atomic Bomb.

https://curiosity.com/topics/chien-shiung-wu-is-the-manhattan-project-physicist-who-succeeded-where-fermi-failed-curiosity/

March 1, 2017
Chien-Shiung Wu Is the Manhattan Project Physicist Who Succeeded Where Fermi Failed
(Edit: this link not working, maybe the US ashamed of this fact)
( During the Manhattan Project, she worked at Columbia University, helping develop the process for separating uranium metal into U-235 and U-238 isotopes by gaseous diffusion)

The Chinese Birdman Who Got U.S. Aircraft Giant Boeing Flying

The first engineer at U.S. aircraft maker Boeing almost a century ago was a man from China -- and his story is one that doesn’t sound possible in the current era of distrust.

blogs.wsj.com

Sep 24, 2015
The Chinese Birdman Who Got U.S. Aircraft Giant Boeing Flying


And NO Railway?

The Chinese who built American railroad recognised, at last

The First Transcontinental Railroad changed America, but the men who had toiled on the tracks were erased from history. On the 150th anniversary of its inauguration, Chinese-Americans gather to set the record straight.

www.scmp.com

23 May, 2019
The Chinese who built America’s Transcontinental railroad are recognised, at last
.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Quite surprise when EU ppl still buy useless Huawei phone while its already dead in ASEAN market due to no Android.

Btw, the only thing that ppl need from CN is just rare earth. Focus on digging more rare earth like other third world countries is better choice for CN ☺

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Without the Chinese in the US, NO Boeing Aircrafts, NO Atomic Bomb.

Chien-Shiung Wu Is the Manhattan Project Physicist Who Succeeded Where Fermi Failed

The Chinese Birdman Who Got U.S. Aircraft Giant Boeing Flying

The Chinese who built America’s Transcontinental railroad are recognised, at last
.

That's okay...we are returning the favor by having US (and other Western) firms designing China's skyline. Since they are just a developing country they haven't mastered the tech yet. Without our expertise China would look a lot different.

US firms leading the world in tall international skyscraper design and architecture

US firms leading the world in tall international skyscraper design and architecture http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/100-tallest-book Kohn Pedersen Fox :usflag: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohn_Pedersen_Fox Design Architects Notable foreign projects: Ping An Finance Center Shenzhen (China)...

defence.pk

Kohn Pedersen Fox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohn_Pedersen_Fox
Design Architects

Notable foreign projects:

Ping An Finance Center Shenzhen (China) *fourth tallest building in mainland China*

Guangzhou CTF Finance Centre Guangzhou (China) *seventh tallest building in mainland China*

China Zun Tower Beijing (China)

Shanghai World Financial Center Shanghai (China)

International Commerce Centre Hong Kong (CN) *tallest building in Hong Kong*

Corporate Avenue 1 Chongqing (China)



Suzhou IFS Suzhou (China)

China Resources Headquarters Shenzhen (China)

Shenzhen Center Shenzhen (China)

Forum 66 Tower 1 Shenyang (China)

Spring City 66 Kunming (China)

One Shenzhen Bay Tower 7 Shenzhen (China)



Above is just what ONE US company has done...there are many others

Suzhou Zhongnan Center Suzhou (China) *will be the tallest building in mainland China*

Shanghai Tower Shanghai (China) *third tallest building in mainland China*

Wuhan Greenland Center Wuhan (China) *second tallest building in mainland China*

 

[bshifter]

Suzhou Zhongnan Center won't be the tallest building in China, it's going to be 499m due to the ban

 

[PakSword]

Credit where it's due.

Chinese should be content on going through the comparisons being made. It's just amazing to see a nation that has the superpower status is so many fields comparing its things with those by a country that still considers itself a developing nation.

 

[sinait]

That's okay...we are returning the favor by having US (and other Western) firms designing China's skyline. Since they are just a developing country they haven't mastered the tech yet. Without our expertise China would look a lot different.

US firms leading the world in tall international skyscraper design and architecture

US firms leading the world in tall international skyscraper design and architecture http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/100-tallest-book Kohn Pedersen Fox :usflag: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohn_Pedersen_Fox Design Architects Notable foreign projects: Ping An Finance Center Shenzhen (China)...

defence.pk

Kohn Pedersen Fox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohn_Pedersen_Fox
Design Architects

Notable foreign projects:

Ping An Finance Center Shenzhen (China) *fourth tallest building in mainland China*

Guangzhou CTF Finance Centre Guangzhou (China) *seventh tallest building in mainland China*

China Zun Tower Beijing (China)

Shanghai World Financial Center Shanghai (China)

International Commerce Centre Hong Kong (CN) *tallest building in Hong Kong*

Corporate Avenue 1 Chongqing (China)



Suzhou IFS Suzhou (China)

China Resources Headquarters Shenzhen (China)

Shenzhen Center Shenzhen (China)

Forum 66 Tower 1 Shenyang (China)

Spring City 66 Kunming (China)

One Shenzhen Bay Tower 7 Shenzhen (China)



Above is just what ONE US company has done...there are many others


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Suzhou Zhongnan Center Suzhou (China) *will be the tallest building in mainland China*

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Shanghai Tower Shanghai (China) *third tallest building in mainland China*

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Wuhan Greenland Center Wuhan (China) *second tallest building in mainland China*

This is good, 2 way trade.
The Chinese do the hard engineering and technology stuff.
The US do the architecture designs, singing, dancing, political theatrics and BOLLYWOOD STUFF to entertain the Chinese.
WIN WIN.
.

 

[mumairb]

Apple's Bionic 13 and Snapdragon 865+ are faster than Kirisn 9000, Snapdragon 875 will be the fastest smartphone processer slated to launch in Feb 2021

Kirin 9000 was the best smartphone chip in the world. Kirin 9000 smoked all these white supremacists before they knew they couldn’t compete.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

This is good, 2 way trade.
The Chinese do the hard engineering and technology stuff.
The US do the architecture designs, singing, dancing, political theatrics and BOLLYWOOD STUFF to entertain the Chinese.
WIN WIN.
.

LOL!
I'm trying to remember how many Chinese companies were asked to help in the architectural designs, engineering and technology stuff of our buildings because we needed it...oh wait I remember now...

ZERO

Behind China's achievements...there's always a Western technology connection giving a quiet helping hand...and plenty of loud Asians in denial.

How many people in the world (and more importantly how many in China) know many of China's tallest skyscrapers are actually designed by Westerners? My guess...not many at all. That's how quiet things are kept. You think we are bragging but in reality we stay very silent.

 

[sinait]

LOL!
I'm trying to remember how many Chinese companies were asked to help in the architectural designs, engineering and technology stuff because we needed it...oh wait I remember now...

ZERO

Behind China's achievements...there's always a Western connection...

Just wondering if you managed to finish high school.

This is good, 2 way trade.
The Chinese do the hard engineering and technology stuff.
The US do the architecture designs, singing, dancing, political theatrics and BOLLYWOOD STUFF to entertain the Chinese.
WIN WIN.
.

US wannabees are busy BRAGGING AND TROLLING on the Internet, so they only do the designs, and leave the hard work of building to the Chinese.

I doubt Americans can do the Engineering even if they tried.

America's High-Tech STEM Crisis

America is in a race for high-tech supremacy with China. The question is, whether our colleges and universities are producing enough future engineers and scientists to secure our lead in that race.

www.forbes.com

Experts have complained for decades that Americans don’t excel enough in the so-called STEM (i.e. science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) disciplines.

John Oliver reports on the sorry state of US infrastructure

Everyone agrees: Dams, roads, and bridges are falling apart

www.theverge.com

John Oliver reports on the sorry state of US infrastructure
Everyone agrees: Dams, roads, and bridges are falling apart
.

 

[shi12jun]

Donald Trump Says "China"

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

US wannabees are busy BRAGGING AND TROLLING on the Internet, so they only do the designs, and leave the hard work of building to the Chinese.

If it's so easy...why are you asking us to do it?
We certainly never had you guys do our "easy stuff".

NYC Developer: Hey we need somebody to design a new tall building
Builder: Oh that's too easy..give it to a Chinese company
NYC Developer: Roger that!

 

[sinait]

If it's so easy...why are you asking us to do it?
We certainly never had you guys do our "easy stuff".

You are pathetic.
The Chinese pity you and gave you business to do some designs, and you wanna complain?
I hope you don't have the idea that China needed the US to do all building designs in China.

The Chinese got $MONEY, they want variety, designs from all over the world.
OPEN, FREE and BEAUTIFUL CITIES with designs from all over the world,
NOT CRAWL BACK INTO A HOLE LIKE TRUMMPY DUMB DUMB.

The world can live without US the War Monger.
Good riddance.
If the US don't want design business from China, like Steven Spielberg who thought the 2008 China Olympics will collapse without him.
The Chinese can do it themselves, but its good to drop a FEW CRUMBS for the US, lest they keep WHINING about trade deficit.

Steven Spielberg quits as adviser to Olympics over Darfur

Oscar-winning film director Steven Spielberg withdrew on Tuesday as an artistic adviser to the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing over China's policy on the conflict in Sudan's Darfur region.

www.reuters.com

Steven Spielberg quits as adviser to Olympics over Darfur
Oscar-winning film director Steven Spielberg withdrew on Tuesday as an artistic adviser to the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing over China’s policy on the conflict in Sudan’s Darfur region.
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