Huawei has unexpectedly unveiled the Mate 60 Pro flagship smartphone with Kirin 9000S, IP68, satellite calling and HarmonyOS 4.0 for a price of $960

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Netizens excited over Huawei’s latest Mate60 series, say debut ‘best souvenir for Raimondo, proof of Chinese resilience against US sanctions’ - Global Times

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Netizens excited over Huawei’s latest Mate60 series, say debut ‘best souvenir for Raimondo, proof of Chinese resilience against US sanctions’
By Global Times
Published: Aug 30, 2023 08:19 PM

Chinese netizens are excited over the unexpected debut of Huawei's latest Mate60 pro series, saying the high-end handset - which some speculated was using a 5G capable chip - marks a major breakthrough and serves as compelling evidence that Chinese high-tech firms can survive and get stronger in the face of US sanctions.

Coming amid US Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo's visit to China, with the US considering new sanctions on Chinese high-tech industries, some netizens said that the debut is the "best souvenir" for Raimondo, and it's a reminder to the US when it attempts to use restrictions as "bargaining chips" when holding dialogue with China.

Some netizens also said this "coincidence" reminded them of China holding its first test-flight of the J-20 in 2011 when the former US Defense Secretary Robert Gates was visiting the country.

On Tuesday, Huawei unexpectedly announced the preorder of its high-end Mate60 smartphone series, saying it will let some consumers experience the "most powerful" high-end Mate series ever.

The device is the world's first for-public-use smartphone that supports satellite calls, runs on Huawei's latest Harmony 4.0 operating system and can access its self-developed Pangu artificial intelligence model, according to the company.

But most importantly, some speculated it's equipped with a domestically made 5G chip. If true, it's a significant step for the Chinese tech giant to overcome US sanctions, analysts said. Huawei did not disclose any information on the chipset yet.

"The Mate60 pro achieves the performance of 5G," a close follower of Huawei, who has already received and tested the new Mate60 pro, told the Global Times on Wednesday, saying he's excited and surprised to see Huawei make such a major breakthrough in such a short time.

"If it has indeed found a way to produce chips under sanctions, it would mark a win for China's semiconductor sector," said the follower, who asked to remain anonymous.

Washington has restricted Huawei from buying advanced 5G chips and software from US companies since 2019, which dealt a heavy blow to its high-end smartphone businesses and left it only able to launch limited batches of 5G models using stockpiled chips.


"If all the widely circulated information proves to be true, Huawei's story will also serve as a reminder to US politicians who still want to use sanctions to curb the rise of Chinese companies," Zhang Hong, a veteran industry player, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

In the latest move, US President Joe Biden signed an executive order on August 10 that will prohibit some new US investment in China in sensitive technologies like computer chips and will require government notification in other tech sectors, according to a Reuters report.

Chinese chip stocks rallied following the launch, with shares related to Huawei's chip subsidiary HiSilicon rising by 2.8 percent, and leading chipmaking giant Semiconductor Manufacturing International Co gaining 3.8 percent as of the close on Wednesday.

Overnight, the Huawei Mate60 suddenly became the most popular phone in China. The new Huawei Mate60 pro, which has been priced at 6,999 yuan ($960.52), sold out within an hour on Tuesday, according to the Shanghai Securities News.

In a statement titled "A Letter to Huawei Users" on Tuesday, Huawei said the day also marked the cumulative shipment of Huawei Mate series mobile phones reaching 100 million units.

Richard Yu Chengdong, chief executive of the company's consumer business group and car unit, announced earlier this month that Huawei's flagship smartphones are "making a comeback" after struggling due to tightened US sanctions that cut off its access to advanced mobile chips.

Industry observers told the Global Times that the Huawei Mate60 series was originally scheduled to debut at the autumn new product launch conference held in mid-to-late September, a pre-release may also aim to seize an early opportunity in competing with Apple.

Apple will reportedly launch its new iPhone on September 12.

Huawei unveiled its financial report for the first half of 2023 on Wednesday, revealing notable increases in both revenue and profit.

During this period, the company generated a revenue of 308.29 billion yuan, marking growth from the 298.68 billion yuan recorded in the corresponding timeframe last year. Impressively, the net profit surged to 46.523 billion yuan, a substantial leap compared to the 14.629 billion yuan reported in the same period the previous year.

Global Times

 

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Did Huawei already develop its own 5G chip to get around US sanctions?

Huawei might’ve made a 5G chip of its own.

www.theverge.com

Did Huawei already develop its own 5G chip to get around US sanctions?​

Aug 31, 2023, 12:57 AM GMT+8

Huawei released the Mate 60 Pro on Wednesday with little fanfare and some missing details — namely, the kind of chip it uses. Any mention of a chip is notably absent from the $960 phone’s product pages despite mentioning “better communication experience” and a “more stable network connection.”

That information has only surfaced in unboxing videos and reviews posted online, including this one from the tech outlet Gizmochina, which says that the device comes with the Kirin 9000s to support 5G and satellite calls. This seems to be the latest version of the Kirin chipset that we last saw with the Mate 40 series devices in 2020. However, Gizmochina notes that “there is very little information that can be confirmed” about whether the company has become self-sufficient with the Kirin 9000s. Huawei declined to comment.

If the Huawei Mate 60 Pro comes with its own 5G chip, that would mark a huge milestone for the Chinese smartphone giant. In 2019, the US government banned American companies from selling software and equipment to Huawei over national security concerns. Things got even worse for Huawei when the US began making it more difficult for foreign chipmakers in possession of US-made technology to do business with the company.

After Huawei began running out of its stockpile of existing chipsets, rumors emerged that the company had been working on a 5G chip using technology sourced from China. Nikkei Asia reported in July that Huawei wanted to restart production on 5G chips “as early as this year,” with China’s Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC) set to start producing the company’s in-house 5G chip.

SMIC would reportedly use 7nm technology to produce the chip. That still isn’t as efficient as the 4nm and 3nm processes used by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), which makes chips for big-name clients like Apple, Nvidia, and Google. Still, some speculate that leaving Chinese technology companies to their own devices (literally) could threaten the chipmaking business that the Biden administration is trying to build up in the US.

 

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It's 5G and all sold out now before any ad.

 

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I'm not a fan of Huawei, I use lineage OS.

 

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China Mobile develops first reconfigurable 5G RF transceiver chip 'Breaking Wind 8676'

China Mobile develops first reconfigurable 5G RF transceiver chip 'Breaking Wind 8676'
2023-08-31 10:03:14
Ecns.cn
Editor : Zhao Li

(ECNS) -- China Mobile announced on Wednesday that it had successfully developed China's first reconfigurable 5G RF transceiver chip “Breaking Wind 8676.”

Research and development of the RF transceiver chip, the core chip of a 5G base station, has long been dominated by other countries. Thus, the “Breaking Wind 8676” effectively enhances China’s self-reliance on 5G network core equipment.

The chip can be widely used in commercial applications such as 5G cloud base stations and home base stations.

Similar to an interpreter, the RF transceiver chip is responsible for the high-speed conversion between analog signals and digital signals, while the reconfigurable design allows for the reconfiguration of core specifications, module algorithms, and functionalities.

 

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hisilicon itself is sanctioned right? so it must be made by smic?

unless these chips were stockpiled from before

or production agreement was made before us sanctions?


its been known huawei makes good 5g so thats not the new thing

5nm is an EUV thing i believe, so maybe its 7nm duv by smic

 

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hisilicon itself is sanctioned right? so it must be made by smic?

unless these chips were stockpiled from before

or production agreement was made before us sanctions?


its been known huawei makes good 5g so thats not the new thing

5nm is an EUV thing i believe, so maybe its 7nm duv by smic

Hisilicon developed chips, but it is fabless never producing chips in the past I think.

For logic chips SMIC is probably the likely candidate as SMIC should also be China's most capable fab.

China recently did produce a EUVL machine though but doubt it has already scaled up production to this level so this 7nm Chinese chip is likely using some DUV process yes.

 

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hisilicon itself is sanctioned right? so it must be made by smic?

unless these chips were stockpiled from before

or production agreement was made before us sanctions?


its been known huawei makes good 5g so thats not the new thing

5nm is an EUV thing i believe, so maybe its 7nm duv by smic

Why are you asking? Are you coping at the fact that 'terror feudal xi' managed to do the impossible?

 

[CIA Mole]

Why are you asking? Are you coping at the fact that 'terror feudal xi' managed to do the impossible?

chinese companies hate him more than i do probably

the difference is that i can talk about it and call him for what he is

 

[StraightEdge]

A very good video about the M60 teardown.

Huge vapor chamber, possibly to dissipate the heat coming from the 7nm SoC> obviously likely to be more heat compared to QC SD8+ chips.

 

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The last time I went to China to tour the finger-like mountainous columns in Zhangjiajie (as seen in the movie Avatar 1), the bus tour guide was bragging about his iPhone. What a dumb dumb, we didn't give him any tip at the end of the tour (although that wasn't the main reason). There are lots of idiots in China still proud and bragging about American smafos...

(BTW, I'll let you all on a SECRET. My real name is actually 华威 -- rhymes with Huawei. My Dad is a big fan of Huawei smafos probably becoz it reminds him of me...)

 

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