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howdy modi was a flop show compared to Imran Khan's & here's why...

This is all about serving respective interests. Be it Pakistan or India; one thing is sure that you never know when US changes side & throw a spanner in the growing relations. Today, it is the Modi in US with Trump that they need India for many reasons and that can't be achieved without proper patting and show. Yesterday, it was IK in US that they us for Afghanistan peace talks & safe exit. Both strategic needs still exist for US while Washington is playing its cards as they want. Praise Modi to press Pakistan and then appraise Pakistan's help to press Modi to do more and take the front seat to counter anti-US bloc in this region. The game of cat & mouse for strategic gains will continue.

Pakistan has our cards in place and apparently, we are just waiting for UNGA session to be concluded. Every Do & Don'ts are thoroughly and repeatedly being discussed. Let's hope that things may get settled peacefully.
 
The only game in the region is will Pakistan - Turkey - Iran - China form a Mega Bloc or not
Just like Pacific Asia Block Russia - North Korea - China

China has already decided
  • 400 Billion Investment in Iran and military base in Iran :coffee:
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  • We have achieved nothing with our move to go to the United Nation for resolution
  • The 50 days of wait , was waste effort going to International Community for Kashmir


This backstab on Kashmiri people's right by USA is clear indication what Pakistan needs to do
 
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I had a similar question, why people at the back didn't like to sit where they could see their dearest Modi from a close distance?
This pic taken was a few hours prior to the event when people were just coming in. It takes time to get 50,000 people clear security and find seats. The crowd at the time of the event looked like this in the link.
https://images.app.goo.gl/yATNwhMXFqQSpQDd7
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There's no comparison.

Modi's slogan is very easy and cheap to follow. That is just "hate Pakistan, hate Pakistanis, destroy Pakistan, destroy Pakistanis". There's nothing about India, no vision, no future talks, nothing about India.

Imran's slogan is different and it's very delicate and sensitive. "build a new Pakistan". There's nothing about India. No hate, no love, nothing. It's all about Pakistan, it's economics, it's development, it's culture.

There's no failure for Modi, as it is very easy to gather people just to hate somebody.
For Imran, chance of failure is huge, very huge. It's about something building new. Unfortunately, Imran is not into his slogan after becoming PM.

Same is mentality of people in Sub-continent. Pakistanis are all into them. They have no thinking of India. There is no India score in Pakistani elections.

While in India, Pakistan is big thing. Pakistan is big discussion in their elections. We do this with Pakistan, we do that with them. This is also clear from this forum. How many Indian members are here to participate and numbers of Pakistani visitors is also obvious on Indian forums. That shows interests of two nations.
Which country was formed on the basis of religious hate of others, in the subcontinent?
Imran khan and your elites are the only progressive people in Pakistan. There are like 10 progressive Pakistanis on this forum.
(Oscar, Indus Pakistan, menace 2 society, imran khan ,Zibago come to mind. Their hate is nuanced. )
 
Which country was formed on the basis of religious hate of others,
No country in the world formed on religious hate.
If you say Pakistan? That's is actually your hate to Pakistan.

Pakistan was formed on the basis of fear that Hindus would not live Muslims in India, and that we are seeing in Modi's India. Extreme hate to Muslims.
Today we see Jinnah was absolutely right about hindu mentality.

Imran khan and your elites are the only progressive people in Pakistan. There are like 10 progressive Pakistanis on this forum.

If you hate some one, you would not get love in return. But again India is no body in Pakistan. We don't talk about India. We don't win elections on basis of Indian hate.
 
one thing is clear. pak is not going to get any support from UN or US. no matter how many kashmiiris are killed in IOK the world is not going to respond. the Quran told us that they will never be pleased with muslims no matter what they do till the time muslims quit their religion. our liberal leaders and scholars will never understand this basic lesson and they will always expect justice from the people who have designs against islam.
You think you live in a world where 'practicing Muslims' are powerful.

Look around. Your elites, both civilian and military hardly care. It's the same with most Muslim countries. Faith is for the masses, money for the classes.
 
You think you live in a world where 'practicing Muslims' are powerful.

Look around. Your elites, both civilian and military hardly care. It's the same with most Muslim countries. Faith is for the masses, money for the classes.
What about your country???
 
Audio chod , video dekh !
And this was before people still coming in.


Their logic... my 5 seater i20 was full... while your 40 seater bus was not fully occupied... you know 10 seats were empty...

Your Imran Khan is also in USA. How is he being treated ?

Free ki ride on KSA prince's plane... 1 or 2 feet long red FOOT carpet... some PAK embassy officials ONLY...

But why are you interested in this... he is going to speak about Kashmir in UN... we should focus on how to tackle THE 58 COUNTRIES OF UNHRC who are supporting his cause on Kashmir... and should not sit idle in the joint manufacturing zone situated on Japan-Germany border thinking that nothing is going to happen...
 
Modi declared war against Pakistan in his speech (whilst holding hands with Trump, per se) ... Northern War is nearing.

International Establishment is going to get what it wants.
 
You think you live in a world where 'practicing Muslims' are powerful.

Look around. Your elites, both civilian and military hardly care. It's the same with most Muslim countries. Faith is for the masses, money for the classes.

What about your country???

@Haris Ali2140 it is same for entire world... have you ever heard about the son of an elite becoming terrorist... or son of a politician getting killed in riots... a politician or elite fighting on war front...
 
You think you live in a world where 'practicing Muslims' are powerful.

Look around. Your elites, both civilian and military hardly care. It's the same with most Muslim countries. Faith is for the masses, money for the classes.
unfortunately you are right.
 
So pictures of a stadium where people are starting to file in -- and long before the rally began -- constitutes a flop.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The only nice thing I can say about this thread is how lame it is.
 
Modi declared war against Pakistan in his speech (whilst holding hands with Trump, per se) ... Northern War is nearing.

International Establishment is going to get what it wants.

verbal wars have a long history and both sides have mastered it...
 
I think its election rally for Trump and modi just part of it so what so special about it, in the spotlight was Trump not modi
 
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