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How The US Navy Lost The Shipbuilding Race to Chinese Navy

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Fanboy hoorah again :D

US afraid to stop Chinese building of Military Bases across SCS, because they know their Naval asset inside First island chain would be sitting duck.

Not only US afraid to stop Chinese Navy building Military bases across SCS. The even ask Banana republic like Philippines to stand up against China. Because americans to afraid to fight Chinese :enjoy:

Lmao......the US will allow China to buildup as much as it wants. :D

Just as it did with Germany in WWII. :)

US has allies to do rest of the work. China has no allies in the SCS. It'll fighting more than 1 country. Just like Germany. :lol:
Enjoy....

The Sino-Dutch conflicts were a series of conflicts between the Ming dynasty of China and the Dutch East India Company over trade and land throughout the 1620s, 1630s, and 1662. The Dutch were attempting to compel China to accede to their trade demands, but the Chinese defeated the Dutch forces.

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If the Chinese met the demands of the Dutch, then that means mission accomplished.

Why don't you also link what the British did?? They destroyed the Chinese Navy and the state and made everyone there addicted to opium from India. :lol:
 
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Lmao......the US will allow China to buildup as much as it wants. :D

Just as it did with Germany in WWII. :)

US has allies to do rest of the work. China has no allies in the SCS. It'll fighting more than 1 country. Just like Germany. :lol:


If the Chinese met the demands of the Dutch, then that means mission accomplished.

Why don't you also link what the British did?? They destroyed the Chinese Navy and the state and made everyone there addicted to opium from India. :lol:

SCS is the MOST dangerous water for carrier group. I guess you have 20 SAR radar on top watching and below, you got hundreds of sonar sensors. US carrier group will be sink in a matter of minutes.

Above is my guessing.
 
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Lmao......the US will allow China to buildup as much as it wants. :D

Just as it did with Germany in WWII. :)

US has allies to do rest of the work. China has no allies in the SCS. It'll fighting more than 1 country. Just like Germany. :lol:


If the Chinese met the demands of the Dutch, then that means mission accomplished.

Why don't you also link what the British did?? They destroyed the Chinese Navy and the state and made everyone there addicted to opium from India. :lol:

Germany didn't have the massive resource nor massive population nor Industrial Capacity of China.

China Industrial Capacity, Resources, Population, Energy Production, Shipbuilding, Steel Production, and Economy is much much Bigger than the US

It's the US would be in Germany position in terms of Economic Warfare :smokin:
 
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When did the Chinese Navy win major victories?? Like 300-500 years ago? :D
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Battle of Qiancaowan
Martim Afonso de Mello arrived at the Pearl River but was blockaded by a Ming fleet despite his offers of amends. After two weeks without being able to gain a foothold in China they decided to run the blockade and managed to escape with the loss of two ships and several dozen men. The battle was fought off the northwestern coast of Lantau Island, Hong Kong at a location called Sai Tso Wan today.

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From 1970s to 1990s, the Chinese Fleet often had naval battles with the Vietnamese fleet in the South China Sea, Chinese all won.

When did the US Navy win major victories after WW2?? Like 80 years ago?
How can we win when no one challenge US? :what:
 
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SCS is the MOST dangerous water for carrier group. I guess you have 20 SAR radar on top watching and below, you got hundreds of sonar sensors. US carrier group will be sink in a matter of minutes.

Above is my guessing.

US will keep the AC's in the 2nd and 3rd island chain.

What you said applies to Chinese AC's more. :D

Germany didn't have the massive resource nor massive population nor Industrial Capacity of China.

China Industrial Capacity, Resources, Population, Energy Production, Shipbuilding, Steel Production, and Economy is much much Bigger than the US

It's the US would be in Germany position in terms of Economic Warfare :smokin:

We'll see. You need a stomach for war otherwise the US would have cleaned up Afghanistan despite its superiority in every case. :D

From 1970s to 1990s, the Chinese Fleet often had naval battles with the Vietnamese fleet in the South China Sea, Chinese all won.

When did the US Navy win major victories after WW2?? Like 80 years ago?

Against Vietnam?? LOL

You mean the recently independent Vietnam that was also fighting a Civil War??

Major US victories include the the toppling of Saddam Hussein twice....not to mention all the fights US has gotten in. It has always come out with lesser casualties.

USN still have way more experience than the Chinese. It's been operating air craft carriers for decades. China is a new kid on the block. :rolleyes:
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Battle of Qiancaowan
Martim Afonso de Mello arrived at the Pearl River but was blockaded by a Ming fleet despite his offers of amends. After two weeks without being able to gain a foothold in China they decided to run the blockade and managed to escape with the loss of two ships and several dozen men. The battle was fought off the northwestern coast of Lantau Island, Hong Kong at a location called Sai Tso Wan today.

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I have read about that already and more. Time you start reading more too:





And I can post more. :lol:
 
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China isn't stupid my friend, maybe the Chinese members here are enthusiastic, but the Chinese military is not one to be taken lightly. There aren't any Chinese Government officials claiming that China can whoop america's butt in the Pacific, rather it is the Western Mainstream Media which is etching the Battle Cries for everyone to believe. The Chinese military knows it has further quantum strides to take before it is in a position of dominance. Currently Chinese military has the ability to challenge, not dominate.

Which is why China has not engaged on Taiwan as of yet.

Last I checked, it was the US military that was coughing up blood paying near $250 million per F-22 Raptor, not China, nor Russia. It is the US military that has spent billions $$ on their LCS and Zumwalt circus clown bonanza, flushing all that money down the toilet, not China nor Russia. And remind me why the USAF has ordered a 1970s designed F-15s to fill up their numbers? Is it because they can't build anymore F-22 Raptors, or because the F-35 Lightnings are fat ducks flying around, or is it because the Raptors are due for retirement?

Oh and not to forget, it is the West (particularly and exclusively america, britain, canada, australia and france) who is pushing for war, not China nor Russia. And if memory serves me right, it is america who has a national debt of $29 trillion, not China nor Russia. It is britain who kicked itself out of the European Union and is masquerading around as it were the yester years old Colonial Superpower. It is france which has a dilapidated population that has no hopes for employment .
 
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Zumwalt circus clown bonanza

Zumwalt was a success in every benchmark other than production. It's the F-22 Raptor of the Navy.

No one has made a Zumwalt of their own yet. :D

F-35 Lightnings are fat ducks flying around

Ehhh what?? :lol:

Tomorrow if the US offers F-35's to Pakistan....I'm sure you'll have a different opinion on it. :D

You think the US is stupid to produce more than 700 F-35's??

Which other nation has as many stealth air crafts as the US?
 
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How can we win when no one challenge US? :what:

North Korea challenge US with sinking your ally Warship (SK), but US turned blind eye.

Iran challenge US with bombing Strategic Assets of your ally (Saudi Arabia), again US turned blind eye


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There is no one defying the US in SCS or in any ocean of the world. All China can do is build up islands in the SCS to push it's claim on the waters. No one believes in those claims other than China.

All of China's neighbors from Vietnam, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, Indonesia and others have claims in the SCS.

Not to mention the constant US, Nato and Quad patrols in the area. I used the word "dominates" in the context that no one can go toe to toe with the US.

The US Navy is currently the best and one of the largest most successful navies in the world. It's history is littered with victories across the world.

When did the Chinese Navy win major victories?? Like 300-500 years ago? :D

US ordered an end to construction of military bases on SCS islands. It in fact did so multiple times. The islands continued to be built. To willfully do something that was ordered to stop is called defying that order. Their 'constant patrols' have not compelled the building to stop nor have they been able to remove the buildings.

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US ordered an end to construction of military bases on SCS islands. It in fact did so multiple times. The islands continued to be built. To willfully do something that was ordered to stop is called defying that order. Their 'constant patrols' have not compelled the building to stop nor have they been able to remove the buildings.

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Even their Military Officials afraid of China's Capability.

And need to Assure Chinese that they don't have intention to attack China in SCS

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North Korea challenge US with sinking your ally Warship (SK), but US turned blind eye.

Iran challenge US with bombing Strategic Assets of your ally (Saudi Arabia), again US turned blind eye
Because we need them to stand up on their own. But challenging our allies means challenging US? How does that work? That is like you challenging Mike Tyson's sparring partner and said you can beat Tyson himself. :lol:
 
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