how many years it took to build tejas?? lets settle the issue once for all

[jarves]

In 2008, Kaveri was de-linked from its original platform, the Tejas. Earlier this year, senior scientists said the project would be revived and would be used to fly unmanned air vehicles of the armed forces. Its derivatives could go into powering ships, too.

The MoD is buying 99 GE F414 engines for the LCA from global engines major GE for Rs. 3,000 crore.

And not to forget that Kaveri will be inducted in Mig-29 for tests this year......

 

[timetravel]

Yes , we can not blame a fighter when it is not even complete.

But you have the confidence about LCA is better than J-10 J11b even when LCA is still not complete.

dude, you are really funny !

you claim J-20 is better then lot of planes. is it made? so you funny?

 

[Kyle Sun]

He is talking about LCAmk2.....

you claim J-20 is better then lot of planes. is it made? so you funny?

Different generation , of course J-20 is better than old generation.

And we never say J-20 is better than F22/F35 or T50

Look at your logic in your pre-post about why LCA is better than J-10 J-11

LCA might be better than J-10 J-11 in the future , but your logic is 100% a Joke!

 

[faithfulguy]

How you term a fighter without AESA and super-cruising abIlity as 4.5 gen fighter?

I will call it a 4th gen fighter. Anyway, congrats to India. Few country in the world could produce 4 gen fighters.

All other countries would have quit a while ago. But India has persistent as it take 30 some years to build this plane.

 

[jarves]

Different generation , of course J-20 is better than old generation.

And we never say J-20 is better than F22/F35 or T50

Look at your logic in your pre-post about why LCA is better than J-10 J-11

LCA might be better than J-10 J-11 in the future , but your logic is 100% a Joke!

You should see his post in the context of that troll post he replied.....

 

[timetravel]

And we never say J-20 is better than F22/F35 or T50

your lie is the biggest joke. No onw who would believe what you just said.

 

[AMCA]

It Took India 23 Years . The design was finalized in 1990. It took the same amount of Time any nation took to develop an aircraft of 4+ generation.
The only difference was, it is India's first supersonic project.

 

[Kyle Sun]

You should see his post in the context of that troll post he replied.....

"I think comparison of LCA mk1 with J-11b will be more fair. Indian air force is using in LCA mk 1 the best of the technologies from around the world. Whereas J-11b mostly is using the low quality(as compared to India and west) equipments. I would be surprised and shocked if LCA mk1 is not better then J-11b. I mean I know LCA is India's first aircraft being designed, and for China JF-17 is first and J-10 and J-11 are later ones. But it doesnt mean that India's first has to be compared to CHina's first only. Logically that is not a necessity or something ordained by God. China doesnt have any support from anyone in technology and their own tech is bad. So obviosuly India's first fighter LCA mk1 will be more superior to J-11b.

Also China loves numbering game like they keep on giving new numbers to planes regularly. Like J-10, J-11, J-15 etc etc. It is just to give impression to others that new number means more advanced, which is not the case. But in reality these are just designations to fool the public but there is not much improvement in the plane. The new number is given just to compare the new number plane with some super tech plane from the west or boast that the new plane is better then some western plane. But this numbering is just evewash reallly."

Dude , do you really think his logic in this context is right !

your lie is the biggest joke. No onw who would believe what you just said.

Really?

Show me the evidence ! When and Where we said J20 is better than F22or35

and also show me the critical parameter comparison of LCA and J10/J11

 

[faithfulguy]

It Took India 23 Years . The design was finalized in 1990. It took the same amount of Time any nation took to develop an aircraft of 4+ generation.
The only difference was, it is India's first supersonic project.

Yes, but the project started in 1983. So it take 31 years so far and counting.

 

[jarves]

"I think comparison of LCA mk1 with J-11b will be more fair. Indian air force is using in LCA mk 1 the best of the technologies from around the world. Whereas J-11b mostly is using the low quality(as compared to India and west) equipments. I would be surprised and shocked if LCA mk1 is not better then J-11b. I mean I know LCA is India's first aircraft being designed, and for China JF-17 is first and J-10 and J-11 are later ones. But it doesnt mean that India's first has to be compared to CHina's first only. Logically that is not a necessity or something ordained by God. China doesnt have any support from anyone in technology and their own tech is bad. So obviosuly India's first fighter LCA mk1 will be more superior to J-11b.

Also China loves numbering game like they keep on giving new numbers to planes regularly. Like J-10, J-11, J-15 etc etc. It is just to give impression to others that new number means more advanced, which is not the case. But in reality these are just designations to fool the public but there is not much improvement in the plane. The new number is given just to compare the new number plane with some super tech plane from the west or boast that the new plane is better then some western plane. But this numbering is just evewash reallly."

Dude , do you really think his logic in this context is right !

no,everybody knows that....
He just replied to a troll thats what i am saying.....

 

[timetravel]

Show me the evidence ! When and Where we said J20 is better than F22or35

You (i mean Chinese members) said several times J20 is better then PAKFA or Rafael (not necessarily F-22 but I remember sometime that was also done). Go dig in the previous pdf threads.

 

[Kyle Sun]

no,everybody knows that....
He just replied to a troll thats what i am saying.....

OKay , he did not quote any comment ! Maybe we have misunderstanding !

BTW, can you explain me the meaning of the word "troll" here in Chinese ?

I know this is not a good word here !

You (i mean Chinese members) said several times J20 is better then PAKFA or Rafael (not necessarily F-22 but I remember sometime that was also done). Go dig in the previous pdf threads.

Dude , check my joined time!!!!!!!

 

[IND151]

Timeline of HAL Tejas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1960s

1969
Indian government accepted the recommendation by its Aeronautics Committee that Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) should design and develop an advanced technology fighter aircraft around a proven engine
[edit]1970s

1975
HAL completed design studies in 1975, but the project fell through due to inability to procure the selected "proven engine" from a foreign manufacturer and unfulfilled IAF requirements
[edit]1980s

1983
DRDO obtained permission to initiate a programme to design and develop a Light Combat Aircraft

1984
Government of India set up Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) in 1984 as the nodal agency for managing and developing the LCA.

1985
IAF submits Air Staff Requirements (ASR) for LCA in October 1985. This was initiated by the then Air Chief Marshal Idris Hassan Latif.

1986
Government allocates 575 crores for the LCA programme.
Programme to develop an indigenous powerplant (engine) was launched at GTRE.

1987
Project definition commenced in October 1987 with French Dassault Aviation as consultants.

1988
Project definition completed in September 1988.

1989
Government review committee expresses confidence in LCA programme. It was decided that the programme will be carried out in two phases.

[edit]1990s

1990
Design of LCA was finalised as a small delta winged relaxed static stability aircraft.
Phase 1 of the development was commenced to create the proof of concept system. Financial problems within India prevented full scale operations from starting.

1993
Full funding started from April 1993 full-scale development work for phase 1 started in June.

1995
First technology demonstrator, TD-1, rolled out on 17 November 1995 and was followed by TD-2 in 1998. However, technical problems in flight control systems and structural deficiencies plagued the prototypes and they remained grounded.

1997
Multi-Mode Radar (MMR) for LCA design work started at HAL’s Hyderabad division and the LRDE.

[edit]2000s

2001
Development assistance sought from Snecma on the Kaveri engine.[1]
4 January - LCA’s maiden flight successfully completed by Technology Demonstrator TD-1, on 2001. Prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee renames LCA as Tejas.

2002
6 June - TD-2 makes a successful maiden flight.
MMR system was reported to be not working as per the criteria laid down in requirements.

2003
25 November - PV-1 makes a successful maiden flight.

2005
1 December - PV-2 makes a successful maiden flight.

2006
13 May - The PV-2 went supersonic for the first time
14 May - The PV-2 went supersonic again, but this time in a weaponised state (i.e., carrying weapons such as missiles and an internal gun).
1 December - The PV-3 flew for the first time for 27 minutes at an altitude of 2.5 km and at a speed of Mach 0.8. The PV-3 was equipped with a more advanced pilot interface, refined avionics and higher control law capabilities compared with the previous versions.

2007


Tejas PV-1 firing an R-73 missile during weapons trials in Goa
25 April - The first Limited Series Production LCA (LSP-1) made its first flight and it reached a speed of Mach 1.1.
PV-2 and PV-3 underwent sea-level trails at INS Rajali Naval Air Station, Arakkonam to study the effects of flying at sea-level, as all earlier trials have been conducted at Bangalore which is 3,000 feet (910 m) above sea-level.[2][3] The reliability of the LCA systems under the hot and humid conditions, as well as low level flight characteristics was tested.[4][5] It is due to this intense flight testing schedule that the LCA was not able to fly at the Paris air show-2007, as was originally planned.[6]
7 September - Tejas Prototype Vehicle (PV-1) made a successful maiden flight with two 800 litre drop tanks.[7][8]
25 October - Tejas PV-1 fired a Vympel R-73 missile for first time. The trials were conducted off the Goa coast at INS Hansa Naval Air Station.[9]
11 December - LITENING targeting pod was successfully tested on Tejas PV-2.[10]

2008


HAL Tejas high-altitude trials at Leh successfully completed by December 2008.
7 February - Tejas Prototype Vehicle (PV-1) made a successful flight powered by fuel from two 800 litre drop tanks. It made a one hour and 24 minute long sortie. On internal fuel LCA can perform a 40-minute sortie.[11]
April - First Flight with HMDS[12]
LCA Tejas prototypes PV-2 & PV-3 underwent hot weather flight trials at Air Force Station, Nagpur from 28 May 2008 to 4 June 2008. The trials were declared successful.
16 June - Tejas second Limited Series Production LCA (LSP-2) made its first flight and it reached a speed of Mach 1.1.
7 November - LCA Prototype Vehicle-3 made first successful night flight.[13]
13 December - PV-3 and LSP-2 completed the high altitude at the Leh air base.[14]

2009
22 January - Tejas completed 1000 flights.[15]
February - the live bombs test were successfully carried out.[16]
October - PV-3 and LSP-2 completed visual target elimination and air-to-ground weapons delivery trials.[17]
26 November - Two seater (Trainer) version of Tejas(PV-5) made its maiden flight on 26 Nov 09.[18]
7 December - Tejas passed flight flutter test diving from an altitude of four kilometers to almost sea level at 900 feet (270 m). Tejas recorded a speed over 1350 km/h. These tests were conducted at INS Hansa, Goa.[19]
15 December - Indian government sanctioned Rs 8,000 crores to begin production of the fighter jet for the Indian Air Force and Indian Navy.[20]

[edit]2010s

2010
23 April - LCA Tejas LSP-3 Makes Maiden Flight. LSP-3 is almost the final configuration including the new air-data computers, Hybrid Multi Mode Radar, new communication and navigation equipment and radar warning receiver. With this the LCA programme has completed 1350 test flights logging about 800 flying hours.[21]
2 June - LCA Tejas LSP-4 Makes Maiden Flight. The flight marks the first time for a Tejas aircraft flying in the configuration that will be finally delivered to the Indian Air Force.[22] In addition to the Hybrid MMR, the aircraft also flew with a functioning Countermeasure Dispensing System [23]
19 November - LCA Tejas LSP-5 Makes Maiden Flight. Goes supersonic in first flight. [24]

2011
10 January - Certification for the Release to Services with assured safety and specified performance for IOC.[25]
26 January - LCA Tejas Participates in the 26 January Republic Day Celebrations by being paraded at New Delhi.

Thanks for Info

@Capt.Popeye @sancho

 

[jarves]

OKay , he did not quote any comment ! Maybe we have misunderstanding !

BTW, can you explain me the meaning of the word "troll" here in Chinese ?

I know this is not a good word here !

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

 

[Kyle Sun]

You (i mean Chinese members) said several times J20 is better then PAKFA or Rafael (not necessarily F-22 but I remember sometime that was also done). Go dig in the previous pdf threads.

Okay , F22/35 is absolutely No1 , there is no doubt about that !

About Rafael and PAKFA , I believe some Chinese might say J20 is better at some aspect!

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

THANKS！