how many years it took to build tejas?? lets settle the issue once for all

[kurup]

this is not a simple brush aside "so what" if you people are not bragging so much about the indian made's technology then "so what" are some passing words
The wing design of the indian is something that may have hindered its AoA
And the design of the indian made bears a close resemblance to Mirage 2000!

JF-17 regardless of your claim is not significant or not at all in using composite materials for its structures

Even when a blurred unauthentic photo is released on net , all chinese starts bragging about their chinese technology . So why can't others discuss about their military accomplishments ??

There is no resemblance with M2K . Even if there is resemblance , So what ??

J10 has close resemblance to Lavi . Has it stopped Chinese from bragging ??

Wing design hinders AoA . Says who and where is the proof to that ??

 

[shuttler]

Even when a blurred unauthentic photo is released on net , all chinese starts bragging about their chinese technology . So why can't others discuss about their military accomplishments ??

We have established JF-17, JH-7, J-10 and variants, J-11, 15, 16, and in testing Y-20, J20, J35 and if indians can go this far we are entering into the next 2 milleniums

There is no resemblance with M2K . Even if there is resemblance , So what ??

they look similar, so what!

J10 has close resemblance to Lavi . Has it stopped Chinese from bragging ??

Wing design hinders AoA . Says who and where is the proof to that ??

All nonsense!
the wing and fuselage and the power of the engine all form criteria for AoA performance

 

[kurup]

We have established JF-17, JH-7, J-10 and variants, J-11, 15, 16, and in testing Y-20, J20, J35 and if indians can go this far we are entering into the next 2 millenium

The same way we have been license produced MKI ,MiG21,Jaguars , producing Tejas MK1 , trainer , naval variants and in testing Saras , IJT ,etc .

I don't know what the bold part even means .

they look similar, so what!

All nonsense!

It is a well known fact that J10 bears resemblance to Israeli Lavi .

the wing and fuselage and the power of the engine all form criteria for AoA performance

Where is the proof that it is the cranked delta design of LCA that is the hinder in case of AoA .

 

[gslv mk3]

We have established JF-17, JH-7, J-10 and variants, J-11, 15, 16, and in testing Y-20, J20, J35 and if indians can go this far we are entering into the next 2 milleniums



they look similar, so what!



All nonsense!
the wing and fuselage and the power of the engine all form criteria for AoA performance

And the bolded ones are fully Indigenous??

LCA and Mirage...

 

[Capt.Popeye]

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@Capt.Popeye @sancho

See; it does not matter really when exactly this project started, though that is 1990 as date on the time-line that the design concept was fixed.

What is really important is the process that has come out of it. I look at Tejas less as a product and much more as a technology and product development process. That is its true value and significance.
Which is where its been a success.

There is now an aircraft whose sub-assemblies and assemblies are made in-country and then manufactured in-country. Not some stuff that gets made in some other part of the world and then gets shipped in to be put together in-country. Every person in the manufacturing process from the Chief to Managers to Supervisors to shop-floor hands is Indian. that again is its true value.
Even the jigs, fixtures and tools required were made in-country. That is hugely important.

The amount of know-how that the project has created wrt aerospace materials and processes that the project has created is inestimable. Which has given India a true take-off point.

 

[IND151]

Wrong thread

 

[shuttler]

The same way we have been license produced MKI ,MiG21,Jaguars , producing Tejas MK1 , trainer , naval variants and in testing Saras , IJT ,etc .

I don't know what the bold part even means .

count the no of our aircraft development and in operation mentioned above and then multiple the number by the your estimated year of getting your FOC then you will get the rough estimated time span

It is a well known fact that J10 bears resemblance to Israeli Lavi .

those are the China-haters rhetorics. We wont care a bit about it and our J-10 is going very well

Where is the proof that it is the cranked delta design of LCA that is the hinder in case of AoA .

I said it may be a hindrance if you go and search the impact of wing design on coeff of lift and the AOA

And the bolded ones are fully Indigenous??

LCA and Mirage...

you just confirm my point that is resemblance of the 2

and what will be the final bill for one indian made? $40 million?

 

[Superboy]

J-10 technology came from Israel. China is Israel's trump card to keep America in check. J-10B's DSI and AESA are F-35 technologies given to China by Israel. So what? China has amazing technologies, that's the bottom line. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter where those technologies came from.

 

[kurup]

count the no of our aircraft development and in operation mentioned above and then multiple the number by the your estimated year of getting your FOC then you will get the rough estimated time span

You bragged about your projects and we showed you the projects we are working on .

You started the d!ck measuring and now now don't cry us a river .

those are the China-haters rhetorics. We wont care a bit about it and our J-10 is going very well

Whatever floats your boat .

I said it may be a hindrance if you go and search the impact of wing design on coeff of lift and the AOA

You are the one who made the claim . It is your duty to provide the proof .

you just confirm my point that is resemblance of the 2

and what will be the final bill for one indian made? $40 million?

these comments are the India-haters rhetoric. We wont care a bit about it and our Tejas is going very well

 

[Abingdonboy]

The only thing I shall say now on this thread is it needs to be closed. Everyone from the GoI to ADA/HAL (ie the onese who know what the eff they're talking about) are saying the project was only begun 20 years ago with work only beginning in earnest in around 2015/16. For a nation with ZERO know-how, almost no resources, constantly moving requirements by the end-user, a limited technical base and sanctions thrown in to boot- what they've achieved cannot be belittled as much as you might want to.


Yes the project has had issues with the engine and other parameters but STILL.


I think much of the negative publicity around the LCA is self-imposed. Indians themselves underestimated the scale of the mountain in front of them back in the mid-90s and thus gave VERY unrealistic timelines, yes they couldn't have factored in the sanctions that were imposed later which inevitably hurt the LCA project immeasurably.

The fact the LCA has logged thousands of flight hours with 0 major issues really speaks for itself.