How Many Times do We have to Hear about the Peaceful 99% of Muslims?

[acid rain]

No, the proper thing is to interact with and support the moderate elements so that the process of enlightenment proceeds quicker. There is much good that can come of this, rather than only the bad.

They have got that covered. Any revisions or alternate meanings derived, calls for hanging of the munafiq. Didn't you hear of the Iranian chap who got hanged for deriving a different softer meaning of the prose?.

 

[VCheng]

u optimistic
lets hope so.
conspiracy theorists have been talking about Islam vs world scenario for some time now,,n somehow it doesn't sound like a conspiracy theory anymore.

I am always a REALIST.

They have got that covered. Any revisions or alternate meanings derived calls for hanging of the munafiq. Didn't you hear of the Iran in chap who got hanged for deriving a different softer meaning of the prose?.

It will all work out very well at the end of the day. I have no doubts.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

It'll certainly take several decades at least, given that change now is much faster.

Meanwhile, the non-Abrahamic religions will continue to suffer -- by the hands of Muslims and Christians who took turns (and continue as we speak in some part of the world) to spread "their" message of peace!!!

 

[acid rain]

I am always a REALIST.



It will all work out very well at the end of the day. I have no doubts.

It's good to be optimistic. It's even better to be a realist. I am surprised that the mullahs have been smart enough to cover all bases to prevent deviations with appropriate titles and punishments for those who do. They do adhere to limits in leniency - cross the boundary and you get shot in prison by the guard.

 

[VCheng]

Meanwhile, the non-Abrahamic religions will continue to suffer -- by the hands of Muslims and Christians who took turns (and continue as we speak in some part of the world) to spread "their" message of peace!!!

Not really. The non-Abrahamic religions are doing just fine: consider Buddhism and Hinduism as examples. How are they suffering?

 

[damm1t]

Ok, so what is your reason for not going against these scums. Why are they getting funded via Turkey? Is that also a false allegation? Do you know an attack on your embassy means attack on your nation so why are you sitting quietly doing nothing even after getting insulted so badly by those idiots??

clueless empty comments... try taking some lessons instead falling in same error over again... combine your brain and internet to catch some results by yourself... but if you insist "hear news" be my guest... President himself called ISIL as a terrorist organization and we already have been working with the anti ISIL team.. an authorition needed by the parliament and now army has it.

This is fresh news from 1 hour earlier...

Turkish lawmakers back action against ISIL - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Turkish government gets OK for military operations in Syria, Iraq - POLITICS

 

[Contrarian]

Very similar quotes can be found in the Bible and the Torah too. It would be wrong to vilify the Quran for such quotes, which need a proper context and interpretation, just like the Bible quotes.

As a rule, I do not participate in religious discussions either, but suffice to say that as a Muslim, I find the Quran to be quite perfect as a prime religious text, and as a Pakistani-American, I have absolutely no problems at all interpreting and applying it in my daily life either, so there is hope for other Muslims too.

With all due respect Syed, a question comes to mind.

I paint a hypothetical scenario :

What happens if one day you are discriminated against and humiliated by American authorities in a ghastly manner. Would that leave a bitterness in you such that you start interpreting Quran in a different manner? Ever considered these questions?

 

[acid rain]

Not really. The non-Abrahamic religions are doing just fine: consider Buddhism and Hinduism as examples. How are they suffering?

By all means and measures. There are innovative jihad themes that get unleashed on them...must be to do with them being non believers.

The astonishing thing here is that the defensive mechanism against contempt and criticism is to be more muslim. Quite the reverse, people generally lose faith when they see something wrong. But the preaching that these are all tests and tribulations unleashed by the devils, kafirs (means us), islam khatre mein hain and go even closer to god and the preachers who are the ultimate saviors makes a mess of reverse psychology.

 

[rockstar08]

Never Judge Islam from its followers ,
Always judge Muslims on the basis of Islam and Quran ..

of you do understand the different between these two , you will know the difference between a normal muslim and jihadi lunatic

 

[FaujHistorian]

Not really. The non-Abrahamic religions are doing just fine: consider Buddhism and Hinduism as examples. How are they suffering?

Religions do fine until they get mixed with politics.

Bhuddist in S Lank and Myanmar are equally nasty if not more compared to ISIL.

No additional comments on Hinduism, as we all know it very well already.

Never Judge Islam from its followers ,
Always judge Muslims on the basis of Islam and Quran ..

of you do understand the different between these two , you will know the difference between a normal muslim and jihadi lunatic

That's sadly not your place (as a Muslim) to say.

Islam will always be judged by the way Muslims behave.

You cannot control that simple but powerful fact.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

The non-Abrahamic religions are doing just fine: consider Buddhism and Hinduism as examples. How are they suffering?

They are doing fine despite the repeated conquests, forced conversions, rapes and genocides "by the Abrahamic religions" -- not because of Abrahamic "message of peace"!

Are you really that blinded?! It was only a few weeks ago that the Abrahamic "saviors" rescued Yezidis from a certain hell fire!

We (who are unfortunate enough not to get the message of Abrahamic peace) have had just too many "Yezidi" moments of our own -- both from Muslims and Christians!

So it is funny for rest of us when you guys (Christians and Muslims) start arguing who is worse! For us, you both were equally horrible -- only that Muslims stole march over you recently and we also get to see their "peace operations" first hand!

 

[rockstar08]

Religions do fine until they get mixed with politics.

Bhuddist in S Lank and Myanmar are equally nasty if not more compared to ISIL.

No additional comments on Hinduism, as we all know it very well already.



That's sadly not your place (as a Muslim) to say.

Islam will always be judged by the way Muslims behave.

You cannot control that simple but powerful fact.

why not ???
i can give 1000 logical examples ...
and if we start judging Christianity/Catholic with hitler , Communist with stalin , etc? ?
just because WW2 is over , doesnt mean that those millions of peoples who died doesnt worth ...
Islam is as simple .. but the only thing the prospectus ...
you read full Quran is different than you read only certain verses to fight and argue with other muslim can never be same .....

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Majority of these 1% are salafi and wahabi radicals funded from gulf.Ban these sects and all organizationa affiliated with them and end saudi religious/cultural funding outside their borders..u'll see problem diminish greatly.Also have a regulation on these mullahs and imams of mosques,make sure that only educated people with genuine knowledge of both islamic texts and the current world are holding these posts-these 2 are main sources of radicalizing normal members of the community..of course i'm talking only in non-muslim countries.In muslim countries they are free to do whatever they want.

 

[FaujHistorian]

why not ???
i can give 1000 logical examples ...
and if we start judging Christianity/Catholic with hitler , Communist with stalin , etc? ?
just because WW2 is over , doesnt mean that those millions of peoples who died doesnt worth ...
Islam is as simple .. but the only thing the prospectus ...
you read full Quran is different than you read only certain verses to fight and argue with other muslim can never be same .....

Come on man.

you don't have to be all preechy with me.

I just gave you a fact.

you are trying to dig deeper in tangential stuff.

Majority of these 1% are salafi and wahabi radicals funded from gulf.Ban these sects and all organizationa affiliated with them and end saudi religious/cultural funding outside their borders..u'll see problem diminish greatly.Also have a regulation on these mullahs and imams of mosques,make sure that only educated people with genuine knowledge of both islamic texts and the current world are holding these posts-these 2 are main sources of radicalizing normal members of the community..of course i'm talking only in non-muslim countries.In muslim countries they are free to do whatever they want.

Hizbullah goons are not funded by gulf

Hamas gets funding and weapons from Iranian Mullahs as well.

 

[rockstar08]

Come on man.

you don't have to be all preechy with me.

I just gave you a fact.

you are trying to dig deeper in tangential stuff.

i know you are talking about the fact which is close to reality ...but my argument is not impossible either

it goes like this , when a Christian, Catholic ,jew kills a man , or bunch of people , its the act of individual , but when a muslim do the same , than headlines are like this " A radical Islamist kills a man "