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How Many Times do We have to Hear about the Peaceful 99% of Muslims?

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The blog is blatant hate speech against Islam.

Just because some Indians and our inferiority-complexed wannabes are giving @Solomon2 legitimacy doesn't make the hate speech legitimate.

Imaging if a Muslim has posted a hate article attacking Judaism, the religion. Everybody would be howling about anti-Semitism. Instead, this OP got given 24 thanks and a positive rating by the resident Islamophobes.

The funny thing is he didn't link the blog itself but linked legitimate stories underneath that had nothing to with the title of the thread. If you go to the blog though you can see it is hate Muslim central, on the main page it states fighting jihad for 1400 years lol. @Horus wth bro this clown should have his thread closed and given a ban. Not to mention the date of the blog listing itself is year 2013.
 
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If I start posting blog posts from Muslim supremacist sites I will probably be banned before it ever gets to page 2. :rolleyes:
 
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But most Muslims these days are being killed by Muslims themselves,

Irrelevant. The claim here is that other religions and groups have "reformed" beyond hatred. That is empirically not so.

Zionism is 100% racial superiority and hatred for others, and it has hijacked Judaism.
Evalgelical Christianity supports Israel purely out of religious bigotry.

Setting aside the carefully crafted propaganda of "shared values", Western support for Israel is based on three things:
- racial bigotry: for most Westerners, the face of Israel is Ashkenazi (European) Jews against Middle Eastern looking people
- religious bigotry: The Old Testament is from Judaism; Jesus was a Jew
- guilt: over the Holocaust.

no one else.

Wrong again. Jewish and Christian fundamentalists can leverage the might American military/economic machine to inflict massive harm onto Muslims.

And they do have global media access.

Muslim voice in the global media is almost non-existent. Setting aside Al-Jazeera, which is dismissed by 99% of non-Muslims are "Arab propaganda", Muslims are invisible in the non-Muslim media.
 
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Irrelevant. The claim here is that other religions and groups have "reformed" beyond hatred. That is empirically not so.

Zionism is 100% racial superiority and hatred for others, and it has hijacked Judaism.
Evalgelical Christianity supports Israel purely out of religious bigotry.



Wrong again. Jewish and Christian fundamentalists can leverage the might American military/economic machine to inflict massive harm onto Muslims.



Muslim voice in the global media is almost non-existent. Setting aside Al-Jazeera, which is dismissed by 99% of non-Muslims are "Arab propaganda", Muslims are invisible in the non-Muslim media.


Sir, I have already accepted that there are bigots in all major religions, but it is clear that Jewish and Christian bigots are not able to create the sort of murderous mayhem that is being perpetrated by Muslim bigots these days. Why is that, is the more important question.

The US military might is there for only one thing - to protect US national interests, that is all.

And finally, if Muslims want a more effective voice in international media, there is nothing stopping them from creating it, is there? Why should anyone expect them to be handed the megaphone just because they want it?
 
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When did the Yanks become the Captain of the Guards of Christianity ?

I'm not totally sure but probably when their presidents swear in to office with their hand on the Bible and when they proclaim themselves defenders of Judeo-Christian values.
 
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Sir, I have already accepted that there are bigots in all major religions, but it is clear that Jewish and Christian bigots are not able to create the sort of murderous mayhem that is being perpetrated by Muslim bigots these days. Why is that, is the more important question.

How do you destroy your enemies?

The naive way is to go fight them yourself.
The smart way is to support rival thugs and strongmen, and let them kill each other.

I am not saying the mayhem in the Muslim world is directly caused by the West, but I am saying the local troublemakers find ample support (diplomatic, military, and financial) from distant supporters. This, in no way, excuses the behavior of the local thugs, and the word "thugs" includes everything from neighborhood gangsters to kings and dictators, as well as religious opportunists. So, yes, there is soul searching to be done in the Muslim world, but external opportunists are also hard at work promoting the troublemakers.

To put things in context, I reject the premise that the rest of the world (Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.) have evolved past the point of hatred. The fact is that _ANY_ group of people, anywhere in the world, can be reduced to indiscriminate warfare under the right circumstances. The various race riots around the world are proof enough that the only thing keeping people in check is strong law enforcement.

The US military might is there for only one thing - to protect US national interests, that is all.

That merely begs the question of what, exactly is in US national interests and whether US actions in the Middle East are serving or harming long term US interests?

The debate is conducted by US citizens and Jewish/Christian bigots are firmly in the driver's seat on that debate, because they have a head start of decades, if not centuries, of entrenchment. Muslim advocates are so woefully out of their league that it is no contest. I am not debating the fairness of it, merely stating the reality of it.

And finally, if Muslims want a more effective voice in international media, there is nothing stopping them from creating it, is there? Why should anyone expect them to be handed the megaphone just because they want it?

The issue of media presence is very complicated.

It is widely acknowledged that media organizations have their own culture, be it conservative or liberal, and whether a news person prospers or dies depends on how well they fit into that corporate culture. What it means is that, within the Western world, for local Muslims, there is a formidable pressure to mute any criticism. Muslims are already presumed guilty and disloyal unless proved otherwise, and must work extra hard to prove their loyalty. Where a white Christian/atheist/whatever can be critical of US politics, a Western Muslim must tread carefully, lest he be accused of being an apologist for the other side.

On the international front, it is almost impossible for non-Western -- be it Chinese, Indian, Russian or Muslim -- media organizations to dent the domination of the Western media. Partly this is a legacy of colonialism, and partly due to the enduring economic dominance of the West. Regardless, the fact is that most people around the world will accept a white newsperson speaking in an American or British accent, but will immediately put up barriers of suspicion if a Chinese/Russian/Indian/MiddleEastern person speaks in their accent.
 
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How do you destroy your enemies?
The naive way is to go fight them yourself.
The smart way is to support rival thugs and strongmen, and let them kill each other.
I am not saying the mayhem in the Muslim world is directly caused by the West, but I am saying the local troublemakers find ample support (diplomatic, military, and financial) from distant supporters. This, in no way, excuses the behavior of the local thugs, and the word "thugs" includes everything from neighborhood gangsters to kings and dictators, as well as religious opportunists. So, yes, there is soul searching to be done in the Muslim world, but external opportunists are also hard at work promoting the troublemakers.

What is needed much more than soul searching, is effective and practical steps. I think you clearly come to the point here:

To put things in context, I reject the premise that the rest of the world (Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.) have evolved past the point of hatred. The fact is that _ANY_ group of people, anywhere in the world, can be reduced to indiscriminate warfare under the right circumstances. The various race riots around the world are proof enough that the only thing keeping people in check is strong law enforcement.

Strong law enforcement is the key. No matter how hard any external forces of whatever religious (or not) persuasion may try, it is clearly within the powers of just about any effective government to maintain law and order. When something so basic as this is not possible in any country, trouble cannot be far behind.

That merely begs the question of what, exactly is in US national interests and whether US actions in the Middle East are serving or harming long term US interests?

USA has global interests, and I would state categorically that its policies in the Middle East and Afghanistan are serving its national interests quite well. Yes, I understand it is fashionable to see US support of Israel as foolish, contrary to its interest or proof of the Zionist controlling the policy, but those are all clearly false premises. Israel is USA's assured partner to maintain the stability of the existing situation in that part of the world, which is a fairly important goal.

The issue of media presence is very complicated.

Yes it is indeed. Suffice to say that the West's dominance of the media is the result of decades of hard work and investment. Anybody else wanting the same influence is most welcome to try and do it for themselves, but they cannot expect to be handed the fruits of all this labor for free or at nominal cost. There are no short cuts to this success.
 
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Who has enlightened Europe for a thousand years?

The West does not want to see a powerfull Islamic Ummah, not even a powerful Islamic state, and it is doing anything it can to thwart that Muslim aim, at an extent never seen before, for an obvious reason, Islam has awakened again, and the West is desperate in its attempts; two very big invasions (crusades!) with no avail, fights against "terrorist" groups (all Muslim) after supporting them as freedom fighters. Pushing and helping Usrael to test its neighboring Muslim countries. Switching sides continuously between Muslim western friends (they call it dynamic policies), and many other attempts in all walks of life.
I think any Brit here should remember that what is happening now in the middle east is a consequence of their inhumane colonization, where they have plummeted other peoples natural resources (by force), and forced poverty and injustice on them.
The Americans, as an extension of the British hegemony, tried to do the same thing covertly, but got into too many wars and conflicts.
This policy does not fit the US, since it was not built on imperialism, but got dragged into it by greed, rooted out from beneath its feet by the greediest of all, the Zionists.
So, the Muslim world can not be held accountable for Western hegemonic misadventures and wrong policies.
Anyone can see who is fighting these " terrorists" on the ground, day in day out, be it in Syria, Iraq or Pakistan.
Westerners are quick to blame Islam for any wrong doings in their countries and abroad, a sign that they have singled out Islam (again, since it is not the first time in history) as the enemy of the hour to replace the Soviet Union and the cold war on which the West thrived. The unfortunate thing for the West is that Islam has always emerged victorious.
 
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