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HOW IAF, PAF AND PLAAF WOULD LOOK BY THE END OF 2017

PAF:

1. F-16 - 77 (blk15 - 45, blk 40 & 52 32)

JF-17 - 125-150 (blk1- 50 blk2 - 75 to 100)

3. J-10 - 36

Fighters phased out:

1. F-7 - 180 (Copy of Mig 21 bought from China) (3rd gen aircraft)

2. Mirage III - 75 (Bought from France in 1968 and second hand from Australia in 1990 after Australia retired it from their air force) (3rd gen fighters)

3. Mirage 5 - 82 (Bought 48 from france in 1973 and 20 second hand of their air force in 1990 and 14 in 2000 with Rose upgrade, which basically was a upgrade of air frame and some weapon bay.) (An upgrade variant of Mirage III basically a 3.5 gen fighter)

So total number of fighters with PAF by the end of 2017 will be in between 238 - 263.[/B]

I don't think so PAF is going to look very different & we will see these changes in coming years.
 
I don't think so PAF is going to look very different & we will see these changes in coming years.

Not only PAF but IAF and PLAAF too. In air force things don't change all of a sudden and based on present situation I have predicted the how the three air forces would look in the next five years.
 
Can you provide any official link of your claim, because I have done some basic research before quoting these numbers. Difference of 20-40 odd fighter can be there.

I doubt you can find any 'official links' from the official websites. But it is well known that the more than 8 regiments of AF and NAF have introduced J10A/S. If the production of J10A/B/S keeps at the same pace, there will be around 600 J10 by the end of 2017.
 
Mirages will serve us well beyond 2015. Especially the ROSE upgraded ones.
 
Mirages will serve us well beyond 2015. Especially the ROSE upgraded ones.

Dude I am ok with that. Having some aircraft and maintain the total strength is better option than retiring and lowering the total strength. Same what IAF is doing with Mig 21. It's close to fourth gen after update to Mig 21 bison but it's airframe & body is not in the condition to sustain the extra life pressure and we get the news of 1-2 Mig 21 crashes every year.

But since these fighters were actually 3rd or 3.5 gen fighters and post 2017 is the era of 4.5 gen ang 5th gen fighters, these fighters has not found place in the actual list.
 
I doubt you can find any 'official links' from the official websites. But it is well known that the more than 8 regiments of AF and NAF have introduced J10A/S. If the production of J10A/B/S keeps at the same pace, there will be around 600 J10 by the end of 2017.


Dude if there is no official claim of numbers or official information of the numbers of fighters, how come these things are well known.
 
Dude if there is no official claim of numbers or official information of the numbers of fighters, how come these things are well known.

annual production capacity about 60 J10s now. we must raplace 500 J-7s.
 
Dude if there is no official claim of numbers or official information of the numbers of fighters, how come these things are well known.

PlAAF will add 80-100 4 gen fighters per year.
 
Dude if there is no official claim of numbers or official information of the numbers of fighters, how come these things are well known.

1. J-10A - 252 (228 already built ,PLAAF 204 and PLANAF 24,annual production capacity about 60)

2.J-10B - 240

3. J-11A - 105

4. J-11B - 135

5. Su 27 - 0

6. Su 30mkk - 76

7. Jh-7A - 150

6. Su-35 - 24

7.J-16 - 96

8.J-20 -24
So total number of fighters with PLAAF by the end of 2017 will be in between 1100-1200.

PLANAF will be 192-216
 
no one could challenge PLAAF in ASIA after year 2017. the power is overwhelming.

Time to kick USA out of Asia at that time.
 
There is India to challenge PLAAF and it won't be easy to kick out US from Asia in near future.
 
well whatever be the strenth of three air forces of Asia theree things will not change no matter how people from Land of the pure may want that to happen

1. No matter how much mistrust there is there will never be a situation when PAF & IAF will go to a full Scale WAR

2. Even if Theres a limited WAR PLAAF wont come to PAF's rescue

3. No matter how much Aircraft & ARMS are brought Niether IAF nor PLAAF will ever be the masters of skies of all ASIA

:cheers:
 
How PAF,PLAAF and IAF would look by the end of 2017. I choose the year 2017 because I consider by this time all the three forces would retire their respective third generation fighters and they will be left with 4th gen fighters and hence. And even if any air force keep using their 3rd gen fighters, they are not included in the discussions.

PAF:

1. F-16 - 77 (blk15 - 45, blk 40 & 52 32)

JF-17 - 125-150 (blk1- 50 blk2 - 75 to 100)

3. J-10 - 36

Fighters phased out:

1. F-7 - 180 (Copy of Mig 21 bought from China) (3rd gen aircraft)

2. Mirage III - 75 (Bought from France in 1968 and second hand from Australia in 1990 after Australia retired it from their air force) (3rd gen fighters)

3. Mirage 5 - 82 (Bought 48 from france in 1973 and 20 second hand of their air force in 1990 and 14 in 2000 with Rose upgrade, which basically was a upgrade of air frame and some weapon bay.) (An upgrade variant of Mirage III basically a 3.5 gen fighter)

So total number of fighters with PAF by the end of 2017 will be in between 238 - 263.


PLAAF:

1. J-10 - 260/300 (approax) (190 already built and 110 expected of getting completed within next five year.)

2. J-11 - 210 (140 already built and 70 more on order.)

3. Su 27 - 76

4. Su 30mkk - 76

5. Jh-7 - 70 (Though less than 4th gen fighter but it actually serve as a bomber in PLAAF. Expected to serve till 2022 0r 2025.)

6. Su-35 - 24

J-16 - 36

Fighters phased out:

1. J-8 - 360 (3rd gen interceptor. Built on J-7 model.Enlarge version of J-7)

2. J-7 - 350 (Copy of Mig 21)

3. Q-5 - 130 (Early 1960's fighter.)

4. H-6 - 120 (Introduced in late 1950's era bomber.)


So total number of fighters with PLAAF by the end of 2017 will be in between 742 - 782.


IAF:

1. Su 30mki - 270 (190 already built, 40 more expected by 2014 and 42 super sukhoi deal to be finalised.)

2. Mig 29 - 68 (63 to be upgraded to Mig 29 UPG standard.)

3. Mirage 2000 - 57 (All to be upgraded to Mirage 2000-5 mk2 standard)

4. Mig-27ML - 102

5. LCA mk1 - 40

Rafale - 40

Fighters phased out:

1. Mig 21 - 153

2. Jaguar - 151 (Though IAF don't have any plans to retire Jaguar by 2017 but since it is a 3rd gen fighter hence disregarded. I firmly believe it's nuclear firing capability is making IAF to not go ahead with any plans of phasing it out from service.)

So total number of fighters with IAF by the end of 2017 will be approximately 577.


Biased Article.

F16 - PAF will not recieve any more F16s . You have 1 Sqn Block 52 rest Block 15 Total number 63. Turisk upgrade at a Max will bring to Block 30 level. In order to move to Block 40 or above you need changes in Colings with Lokheed Martin needs to approve.

JF 17 production rate of 22 is inflated again.

J 10 - 36 Russia has not given consent to China to export AL 31 Engines.


Mig 21 Bison will not be phased out before 2020 NoR Jaguars will be Phased beofre 2025 they have been Heavyly modified.

Russia will not sell Su 35 to China. They have had some Good Experiences....
 
How PAF,PLAAF and IAF would look by the end of 2017. I choose the year 2017 because I consider by this time all the three forces would retire their respective third generation fighters and they will be left with 4th gen fighters and hence. And even if any air force keep using their 3rd gen fighters, they are not included in the discussions.

PAF:

1. F-16 - 77 (blk15 - 45, blk 40 & 52 32)

JF-17 - 125-150 (blk1- 50 blk2 - 75 to 100)

3. J-10 - 36

Fighters phased out:

1. F-7 - 180 (Copy of Mig 21 bought from China) (3rd gen aircraft)

2. Mirage III - 75 (Bought from France in 1968 and second hand from Australia in 1990 after Australia retired it from their air force) (3rd gen fighters)

3. Mirage 5 - 82 (Bought 48 from france in 1973 and 20 second hand of their air force in 1990 and 14 in 2000 with Rose upgrade, which basically was a upgrade of air frame and some weapon bay.) (An upgrade variant of Mirage III basically a 3.5 gen fighter)

So total number of fighters with PAF by the end of 2017 will be in between 238 - 263.


PLAAF:

1. J-10 - 260/300 (approax) (190 already built and 110 expected of getting completed within next five year.)

2. J-11 - 210 (140 already built and 70 more on order.)

3. Su 27 - 76

4. Su 30mkk - 76

5. Jh-7 - 70 (Though less than 4th gen fighter but it actually serve as a bomber in PLAAF. Expected to serve till 2022 0r 2025.)

6. Su-35 - 24

J-16 - 36

Fighters phased out:

1. J-8 - 360 (3rd gen interceptor. Built on J-7 model.Enlarge version of J-7)

2. J-7 - 350 (Copy of Mig 21)

3. Q-5 - 130 (Early 1960's fighter.)

4. H-6 - 120 (Introduced in late 1950's era bomber.)


So total number of fighters with PLAAF by the end of 2017 will be in between 742 - 782.


IAF:

1. Su 30mki - 270 (190 already built, 40 more expected by 2014 and 42 super sukhoi deal to be finalised.)

2. Mig 29 - 68 (63 to be upgraded to Mig 29 UPG standard.)

3. Mirage 2000 - 57 (All to be upgraded to Mirage 2000-5 mk2 standard)

4. Mig-27ML - 102

5. LCA mk1 - 40

Rafale - 40

Fighters phased out:

1. Mig 21 - 153

2. Jaguar - 151 (Though IAF don't have any plans to retire Jaguar by 2017 but since it is a 3rd gen fighter hence disregarded. I firmly believe it's nuclear firing capability is making IAF to not go ahead with any plans of phasing it out from service.)

So total number of fighters with IAF by the end of 2017 will be approximately 577.

Jaguars wont be phased out by 2017.
 
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