How archaeology in Pakistan is forced to deny the nation's Hindu past.

[Indischer]

Yep thats called 'tibet'.

Since when?

 

[Kabira]

^^^ @Contrarian
My little friend this is wrong and false history, Nepalis proudly claim Bhuddha was born in Nepal.

 

[Kompromat]

I think Pakistanis should also learn about the Mauraya Empire which liberated them from oppressive Greek rule.

Your assumptions about the 'Pakistani ignorance' is an evidence of your own ignorance.

Maurya empire was the result of a 'civil war'. No empire has ever been the 'liberators', they are the defination of everything 'anti liberty'.

We were never under a 'Greek occupation'. Greeks were defeated in Pakistan BEFORE they faced the Indians which is why they simply withdrew rather than fighting another war.

Can you name the commander in chief of the Maurya army?

 

[majesticpankaj]

Tu hojaye Ghazwa E Pakistan by hindustani PDF members...

@FaujHistorian

bhai mere ho gaya kab ka woh toh...

 

[Kompromat]

@Indischer l Show me a peer reviewed source ratifying the claim that Budha was born in Nepal. There is no scholarly consensus on his birthplace or burial place AFAIK.

 

[Indischer]

@Indischer l Show me a peer reviewed source ratifying the claim that Budha was born in Nepal. There is no scholarly consensus on his birthplace or burial place AFAIK.

So that gives you the freedom to retcon him as a Tibetan? Any peer-reviewed sources to support your claims?

Besides, Lumbini being associated with Buddha's birth is not a recent phenomenon. An inscription by Emperor Ashoka also talks about him having visited Lumbini as it was the Buddha's birthplace. You can read it in this book.

http://www.ahandfulofleaves.org/documents/Theravada Buddhism_Gombrich.pdf

UNESCO does not seem to have a problem with this and describes Lumbini as the birthplace of Gautama Buddha.

Lumbini, the Birthplace of the Lord Buddha - UNESCO World Heritage Centre

 

[Salahadin]

Its very hard for Pakistani to accept that their ancestors were Hindus. They can not accept that their blood has Bania routes. The best part to hide it, is to claim the Arabian ancestry and making Bin Qasim the "1st Pakistani". It also serves the 2 Nation Theory.

I don't know why Indian people are so delusional, that they think all Pakistani were once Hindus not true some may be not all most of us has Arab, Persian, Afghani, Turkic...In us I can go on and on but it would be like banging my head against the wall

 

[Gautam]

They followed religions like Budhism, hinduism, zoroastrianism, shamanism, and other religions like that followed by the minorities like the chitralis today.




Mohammad bin Qasim didn't kill the forefathers of Punjabis, Kashmiris or even Sindhis and Baloch. This is exaggeration. He fought a local king in Sindh / Gujarat and defeated him. He conquered that king's territory in Sindh. The local people still followed the local religions. Local kings in Sindh used to defeat and fight each other all the time. But now a foreginer Arab Muslim defeated the most powerful of them. Mohammad bin Qasim established the Islamic religion in Sindh. And he was a pious Muslim and followed the Zuhud way [ Ascetic way - in other words Junaydi Sufism ]

You could have just used one line that he established Islamic religion. That is why he is regarded as first Pakistani. Rest is history.

Gupta Maurya has very little relevance for Indus people. I think Gupta Maurya was more busy killing hundreds of thousands in Kalinga [ Orissa ] and spreading budhism by force over there. Pakistani Muslims do revere non-Muslim personalities as heroes. For example Alexander the Great, who was a just king. If Gupta Maurya was a just king ruling over the Indus area, then it would have been highly possible that he would also have been celebrated as a just man like Alexander the Great.

You have already stated that you meant Ashoka and not Chandragupta. So lets avoid that part.

Chandragupta Maurya's empire did rule the entire Indian sub continent which includes IVC. But he is not first Pakistani because he was not a Muslim. Thats my point.

 

[Kabira]

So that gives you the freedom to retcon him as a Tibetan? Any peer-reviewed sources to support your claims?

Besides, Lumbini being associated with Buddha's birth is not a recent phenomenon. An inscription by Emperor Ashoka also talks about him having visited Lumbini as it was the Buddha's birthplace. You can read it in this book.

http://www.ahandfulofleaves.org/documents/Theravada Buddhism_Gombrich.pdf

UNESCO does not seem to have a problem with this and describes Lumbini as the birthplace of Gautama Buddha.

Lumbini, the Birthplace of the Lord Buddha - UNESCO World Heritage Centre

This is bs and fabricated histoty, Nepal is birth place of Bhuddha. Chanakya was also Pakistani.

 

[Gautam]

I don't know why Indian people are so delusional, that they think all Pakistani were once Hindus not true some may be not all most of us has Arab, Persian, Afghani, Turkic...In us I can go on and on but it would be like banging my head against the wall

Yeah right, all Pakistanis are Arabs

 

[Indischer]

This is bs and fabricated histoty, Nepal is birth place of Bhuddha. Chanakya was also Pakistani.

Which is another way of saying all Pakistanis were once Indians.

 

[Kabira]

Which is another way of saying all Pakistanis were once Indians.

Please stop insulting us.

 

[Multani]

You could have just used one line that he established Islamic religion. That is why he is regarded as first Pakistani. Rest is history.



You have already stated that you meant Ashoka and not Chandragupta. So lets avoid that part.

Chandragupta Maurya's empire did rule the entire Indian sub continent which includes IVC. But he is not first Pakistani because he was not a Muslim. Thats my point.

You are asking an apple to call itself an orange. Why should Maurya be a first Pakistani? i fail to understand. He has no relevance because pakistanis are not indian nationalists, even if they were hindu in religion today. Thats my point.

Was maurya's empire for hinduism? i dont think so. He supported jainism and budhism, correct me please.

Also, innocent Pakistanis claim out of joy that Mohammad bin Qasim is the first Pakistani because he established Islam in Sindh / Gujarat by conquering territory. That is of course just an innocent analogy, even if it is false. Actually, if we do take the idea as true then the first Pakistani are others. Hazrat Usman Ghani RA, the companion of Prophet Muhammad salat wa salam alaih, who sent armies into Balochistan and border areas of Afghanistan to conquer territory from hostile tribes.

 

[Salahadin]

Yeah right, all Pakistanis are Arabs

you guys have a superiority complex and cant digest the truth, It said most of us not all Pakistani in my opinion I would be less then 15% are converts, But the vast majority of muslims across the world and in Pakistan don't come from Hinduism, they come from Arabs and persians who probably were without religion until Islam came along.

 

[Indischer]

Please stop insulting us.

Can't help it. It's a fate you are born into.